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Tough question. Moss was so moody, but he was the best of the bunch. I know what I would be getting w/Harrison. That's important.
But, all three have character issues. Did you forget about Harrison and the shooting?
Look, it doesn't bother me that Gordon smoked/smokes weed and gets drunk and perhaps drinks some Purple Drank. What bothers me is that he has been caught repeatedly but still hasn't learned to control himself. He is putting his partying before his career. Over and over and over. That is a concern.
The other thing that is bothering me is that he isn't working very hard in this camp and might have an attitude. Not finishing routes. Last one to line-up for drills. Terrible body language. Etc. You would think that he would be ashamed of his suspension and would be working his butt off to send the right message.
Actions speak louder than words. His agent can tell him what to say in interviews, but to actually go out on the practice field and work your tail off would be far more telling. Look at Little........staying after practice, working out w/Weeds during the summer, working w/the D-line to improve his ability to fight off guys at the LOS. That is what Gordon should be doing. It's like he doesn't even care. That bugs me.
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Miami has no proven running threat, but Lamar Miller sure looked like Shady McCoy when they gave him the ball last year (small sample size on it though)
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I'm starting to feel this way too about Gordon.
Little is stepping up and becoming a "Professional". Something Gordon doesn't get yet.
Too Young, Too Inexperienced, Too Inconsistent.... I really hope someone checks his attitude before season starts.
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People need to recognize that when Gordon gets on the field, he is going to be the top player out there. And for that I'm willing to cut him some slack.
What if the "knee bothering him" story isn't a rouse?
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I think people do recognize this. What concerns them is the chance that he won't ever see the field... because of something stupid, immature, and off-the-field. Based upon past practice, it's a legitimate concern.
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Then that's cool.... and most of us wouldn't have a problem with it at all. If his history wasn't so sketchy, it wouldn't even be an issue.
Don't get me wrong, TROW... I want to see this kid become all he can be- in fact, I'm pulling (hard) for him. (Redemption stories are the best!. All the same, I'm still going to prepare myself for the possibility of not having him around for very long.
I've been a Browns fan for far too long to take his (potential) turnaround for granted
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I don't care what's reported no one will convince me that Gordon had anything wrong with his knee.
I think we were seeing some tough love. I wish that switch that turned on for Little would do the same for Gordon.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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like your article just remember this tannehill put 24 points in his rookie year against hortons defense if you think this offense is scoring 25 against jordan and wake go for it.
2they added jordan wallace and the cb we wanted you couldnt trade are whole offseason for One of those players.
3 They have the same hc ,oc.and dc we have entirely new systems every where.
4The special teams this year maybe the worst in the nfl.
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Well, after big moneys inj, warren, couch;'s leg and then elbow, what's his name on the 3 wheeler. There's a chance KW2 would miss 2 years before being worth a look and a highlight reel. I've prepared myself for the announcement of a move to L.A. There's nothing I can do but watch and wait and hope all these guys make this a fun year!  Off the field, or on the field, Ke ser ra ser Browns. 
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See, he's responding to the poster above him, wherein the guy makes 3 observations of how the Dolphins are a dominant or improved team.
His response is basically saying, well so what if the Dolphins are improved, let's go beat them and by doing so have beaten a better team.
His last line is an expression made popular by Chris Berman of ESPN's sportscenter from years ago. When one team, figured to lose, would overcome and give a better team a tough contest or even win the game.
On paper this team is better, but, " That's why they play the games" and then you would see a highlight of the lesser team overcoming.
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Tannehill is going to have a hard time putting up 25 pts with the oline I am seeing tonight. I know it is the first preseason game but their starting oline is going against a patchwork Dallas' D. Miami is not impressing me with their run D either.
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I see from you post count that you're new here. Firstly- welcome to the asyl- er, "kennel." Secondly- It takes awhile to learn "Bardspeak." Think of it this way: "His 'Flows'- like a river to Whoknowswhere. His Words are a stream of 'Consciousness/optional'... Insight meets Riddle, just beneath the surface. Their baby: Truth- wrapped in mystery, illuminated by enigma. Genius can be recognized- but never fully grasped. English can unite- or separate us all. Unite = untie." __________________________ Dig deep, young Dawg. The Bard is a force. A force for Good.
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I don't know if anyone watched the HOF game last night, but the guy is a turnstile. His backup is a turnstile too.
I formally submit my name to play ORLB for the Browns against the Dolphins. I even think my old butt can get around their LT.
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I watched the game. Dallas was without much of their starting D and Miami's starting oline looked bad.
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I watched the game. Dallas was without much of their starting D and Miami's starting oline looked bad.
Real Bad ... Almost like 1999 Browns OL ...  
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could be your right hoÌ many plays did wallace play?
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great post I guess you dont understand 26
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are you saying that we are beating miami yes are no?
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Is Wallace playing left tackle?
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on guard due you like shwartz on wake
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I think Cameron Wake is a good player but I also think Schwartz will hold his own. I favor that matchup over the Miami Oline going against our front seven. Besides I said Tannehill will have a hard time putting up 24 points with the oline I saw last night. Which has little to do with Cameron Wake or Wallace for that matter.
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Cameron Wake Vs. Mitchell Schwartz will be an all out war ... meanwhile the Rookie (Jordan) from Oregon will be getting schooled by the best of the best Joe Thomas ... JMHO
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Should be a fun game.
Schwartz should handle Wake pretty well...if not we'll give him TE help. Jordan will be no match for Joe Thomas.
Miami's OL and DL looked incredibly porous. While their DL can get after the passer...they aren't great run stuffers. Wheeler and Ellerbe make their LB corps faster, but not necessarily better against the run. Our strengths are in the trenches...their weaknesses are in the trenches...that's a problem for them, and will for the season make them inconsistent.
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Also...their starting corner is Dimitri Patterson...
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Schwartz should handle Wake pretty well...if not we'll give him TE help. Jordan will be no match for Joe Thomas.
Miami's OL and DL looked incredibly porous. While their DL can get after the passer...they aren't great run stuffers. Wheeler and Ellerbe make their LB corps faster, but not necessarily better against the run. Our strengths are in the trenches...their weaknesses are in the trenches...that's a problem for them, and will for the season make them inconsistent.
you have to understand though that only ONE STARTER ON THE DOLPHINS D LINE PLAYED IN THAT GAME....it was wake...he was the only starter.....trust me their d line is amazing.
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like your article just remember this tannehill put 24 points in his rookie year against hortons defense if you think this offense is scoring 25 against jordan and wake go for it.
2they added jordan wallace and the cb we wanted you couldnt trade are whole offseason for One of those players.
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Firstly- welcome to the asyl- er, "kennel."
Secondly- It takes awhile to learn "Bardspeak."
Think of it this way:
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His Words are a stream of
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Truth- wrapped in mystery, illuminated by enigma.
Genius can be recognized- but never fully grasped.
English can unite- or separate us all.
Unite = untie."
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I liked him when he was here. He was a solid backup/N/D/spot starter type. I still wonder what happened last year when he was released all of a sudden.
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why thanks....
I try.
(even if it has nothing to do with the original subject...)
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Theyre good pass rushers...I don't think theyre particularly great at stopping the run. It was an issue for em last year...
That being said, they were the best red zone D in the NFL.
I still think our strengths are their weaknesses...
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Stay thirsty my friends.
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you have to understand though that only ONE STARTER ON THE DOLPHINS D LINE PLAYED IN THAT GAME....it was wake...he was the only starter.....trust me their d line is amazing.
Anytime I see good news there is some post here that trys to downplay it.
I'm not sure who was floating the ' We have to trade Sheard cause we drafted Mingo ' on draft day, but I know in training camp I read something similar against sheard.
I'm not going to doubt that Miami will have some defense, but this is the NFL, nobody is uncoverable, nobody is unstoppable, this league is full of giant killers.
I don't want the facts to get in the way and I'm not going to claim to understand, or care, if a 3-4 linebacker who rushes the passer has to be considered a D-line starter. But if a team trades up to 3ish in the draft and gets Dion Jordan as the top pass rusher. he's going to be a starter and he did play.
And the Bengals have Carlos Dunlap, the Cowboys have Ware? the Texans have a player who is all league. The Ravens had Ray lewis up till last year. There's lamar Woodley, And look who is on the Browns.
Not to mention the new additions to the Raven defense, and I bet the 9ers have some all stars, how about the Bears linebackers?
It is the NFL, = giant killers every week. For every Peyton Manning there's a Tom Brady, for every Tom Brady there's an Eli Manning.
All I'm trying to say is let's save the " amazing " until after opening day.
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I wasn't watching closely, but the Jags had constant pressure and Tannehill looked shaken last night and never got comfortable. Not sure who stayed in and who subbed out on the line after the 1's left because it did settle down but at the beginning of the game the Fins looked rattled.
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Just looking at the play by play, it seems like the Dolphins didn't get much going at all until their 4th drive. It appears that the Jags still had their 1st team defense in at that point. I haven't watched the game, but I'll probably try to watch a replay since they are our week 1 opponent.
As a side note, it appears that our old friend Mohammed Massaquoi had 2 targets in the game, but no catches for the Jaguars. If he can stay healthy, always a huge if with him, he should be able to rejuvenate his career with the Jags. He should be able to be that 3rd receiver, with Blackmon and Shorts getting most of the attention, and with Jones-Drew always a guy defenses have to watch carefully ...... and with a solid TE in Lewis, Massaquoi should be able to work the middle nicely .... if he can get and stay healthy.
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