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I disagree w/you about the RBs. Our RBs are decent. Heck, TRich is decent.
I thought it was a stupid pick. You can get RBs in trades, later in the draft, in free agency, and even undrafted FA's can make it. However, the guy was at least solid. He has the potential to be very, very good. He just needs to develop better instincts--which I know sounds ludicrous, but I really think Alabama's OL spoiled him---and be a lot more decisive about hitting the hole.
The rest of his game is there. He can catch. He is alright at blocking. He has moves in the open field. He is as tough as nails. He doesn't go down easily. He has a good attitude.
Oh, one more thing he needs to do.................He needs to stay healthy.
I think he can be dynamic, but I still think it was a stupid butt pick. I don't hold that against him. It's Heckert and The Big Show that infuriate me about that move. All I know is that we need TRich to show in a big way.
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I think your on-field appraisal of Richardson is objective. I don't have an particular feeling about his draft position. I think he's a crucial part of this offense. The team needs him to play better than he did last year. I'm confident that he will. He wants to be great and he has the ability. I think he can be in the conversation among the great backs this franchise has produced.
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Well it's official Trent is playing against Detroit per Chud from the home site.
Lets see if he can work on his timing with the line, which I feel is important. Hopefully it will keep the fluff going to see a glimpse of what we can expect in game 1 against the Dolphins!
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LOL.......at my age, it's about the only thing I am good at anymore. 
I think i'm alittle older and I can smoke you in cornhole....
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Bravo... just bravo! 
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I'm not happy with the situation with this guy. Will he ever be healthy enough to play? All the hype about him playing hurt last season...
Last year he had an average of 17 attempts per game. His average gain was 3.6 yards. Statistically, he's average. Merely average.
Last week the press reported originally that the team stated that he was being held out for protection. Now we know it was another injury. Is he durable enough to play in the NFL?
I know he only has one season under his belt. But...the same trend is appearing in preseason this year. Hurt. Hurt. Hurt. I won't call him a draft bust yet. I'll wait to see what happens this year.
How long is his contract?
well you wouldn't even think of this comment if you ever had a broken rib. one of the most difficult things to do with a broken rib is to simply take a breath of air without pain. if you knew this you wouldn't even think of his willingness to play thru pain. I think you must of been a cheerleader in college, its clear you were never a football player.
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Must be funny. I didn't get it, though. Must be too old.
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I don't know that anyone can ever explain Beevis and Butthead .....
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In some places cornhole does not mean a game played by fans in tailgate lots but has a much different meaning. That definition is what made the whole Beavis and Butthead bit somewhat funny back in the day. Proclaiming to be the king of cornholing could produce more than a few surprised reactions in some areas.
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but even the media gurus were scratching their heads on the shuffling to grab him and the pick we made.
Ahhhhh - the Media Gurus didn't like the pick ... now it all makes sense !! TRich was doomed from that moment on - the media gurus are always always always right. . . and quoting them to substantiate your position means you win the debate. I mean - what else could those of us who want to give TRich a chance possibly counter with?
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Beavis gets hopped up on some kind of drink... I think it was slurpees from the convenience store and has a sugar/artificial flavors freakout in which he pulls his shirt over the top of his head and declares "I am Cornholio!" and plenty of other unsavory statements.
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everyone's laughing and riding and cornholing except Buster!
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And on top of that the media gurus didn't hate dislike the pick.
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j/c: I get the cornhole thing now. LOL.........that was pretty funny, even if it was at my expense. 
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So those chumps who "had to see" Trent play in the preseason should be eating their words after that hit by Suh. He's fine, but that's why you don't play your workhorse RB in the preseason!
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Chumps? So many big, tough guys on this board. LMAO
Wonder what would happen if I resorted to all the name calling you guys get away with?
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So those chumps who "had to see" Trent play in the preseason should be eating their words after that hit by Suh. He's fine, but that's why you don't play your workhorse RB in the preseason!
I agree. Lets keep him out so a big hit in regular season can sit him out.
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Say what you will, but he took a huge hit from the Lion's linemen and bounced up to carry the ball the next snap. Respect.
He looked, and JMO, noticeably faster when hitting the hole and just overall running speed. Needs to continue to stay healthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That he did.
I think that losing the weight he did will make him a lot quicker.
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Oh, and tab................you ALWAYS use the "Chicken Little" and "The Sky is Falling" crap to demean other poster's opinions. And you have been so right over the years and I have been so wrong.
You know you should mind your own business as you demean posters way more than I.
I use it cause it is very apropos. Too many make mountains over mole hills regarding this team.
yeah you are smarter more correct than me on all levels...  Is that what this is about...You are better than me. Come on Vers Grow up...other people know football. Selective memory on being right or wrong. Yippee.
I've made no bones that I am a FAN who looks at all the positives. So far over the years we have sucked...and rebooted sometimes too early. So that we throw the team away. I champion almost all the Browns starters until they leave. But if you wish to throw my fandom in my face as a "CREDIBILITY" issue. Funny thing Vers - you come down on posters about their posting style - but sorry man you insult posters left and right. Get off your high horse. There was no insult there.
On a Freaking Thread titled: Trent Richardson: Is he sturdy enough to play in the NFL?
You are darn right I'm calling all the posters who think he is a wash as being a Chicken Little making a false claim of the sky falling. If that happens to be you...wasn't taking names. So be it.
after he has a stud season I'll expect your apology!
And yeah if he washes out - I'll apologize,
But worry about your own posting...for the umpteenth time, I ain't going to forward my posts to you to be approved before submitting. Man unbelievable - probably the guy who insults more than anyone else on this board has anointed himself as the board police
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The logic behind sitting Richardson out baffles me. So, we lost Hardesty AGAIN and Lewis for the season. But we have Richardson. And so far only Richardson. We should have set Mingo out, too. Definitely should have sat Pinkston out. We better put Thomas, Haden, Weeden, Benjamin and Bryant on the pine. Don't want anything happening to them. Hell, sit all of the starters out. Better keep the backup QB out too.
Injuries are going to happen. However, there are those players in the NFL who never truly make it because of their nagging injuries or total inability to physically keep up with the rigors of the game. We've seen our fair share in the last 13 years.
My question was simply, "Do you (your personal opinion - preferably supported by fact) think that Richardson can cut it?" That's all. Not a diatribe about sitting players out, or cornhole, or sniping, or anything other then that.
I gave my opinion. Frankly, I'm still on a wait and see for this guy. It IS only his second year.
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The logic behind sitting Richardson out baffles me.
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You're right. We should. And we did. They all sat pretty much the same amount as Richardson.
Do you have any clue what you are talking about or do you just type random words and hope they make sense?
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So those chumps who "had to see" Trent play in the preseason should be eating their words after that hit by Suh. He's fine, but that's why you don't play your workhorse RB in the preseason!
I agree. Lets keep him out so a big hit in regular season can sit him out.
Doodie head. Dummy! About as mature as the other badgering and name calling on here.
Two series was fine. If I'm not mistaken, Bush is the no1 running back and he played as a work hourse for almost two quarters.
Our workhourse Dion Lewis unfortantely got hurt- now that sucked.
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yeah you are smarter more correct than me on all levels... Is that what this is about...You are better than me. Come on Vers Grow up...other people know football. Selective memory on being right or wrong. Yippee.
Well, it's not real hard to find out the answer to this, tab. You are the one who has belittled anyone who has ever doubted the Browns would have a good record over the years. Let's see: 5 and11 last year, 4 and 12 the year before, 5 and 11 the year before that, 5 and 11 the preceding year. Not so hard to figure out.
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Apology for what? Did I ever say he wouldn't stud out? Show me where I said that. So, what the heck would I apologize for?
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Not asking you to forward your posts to me, but I ain't going to forward mine to you, either. You say something stupid and offensive, I may--or may not--call you on it....and I really don't care how much you cry about it.
I think Richardson has a lot of ability. I think he can be elite. However, he was not elite last year. His 3.6 yards per attempt were disappointing. He wasn't decisive enough hitting the holes. He has been nagged by injuries in his young career. And taking a RB w/the 3rd overall pick and trading up w/the team that had Adrian Peterson in their stable is downright stupid.
With that said, TRich did hit the hole much quicker in our last preseason game. Hopefully he stays healthy and continues to improve. We do really need him to become a true superstar in this league. He certainly has the strength, moves in the open field, the hands, and the attitude to be a star player. Now, he just needs to do it.
I'm sorry that you get upset if people try to look at both sides of the debate. If you notice, I have posted both good and bad things about his game. Too bad you gotta trot out your stupid "Chicken Little" statement anyone someone doesn't view things exactly the way you do.
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And taking a RB w/the 3rd overall pick and trading up w/the team that had Adrian Peterson in their stable is downright stupid.
If I remember correctly, there were other teams bidding for that third pick. The Browns wanted to make sure they got their guy, and that meant moving up one spot. It had nothing to do with the Vikings drafting Richardson, everyone knew that wouldn't happen. It was to ensure nobody else traded ahead of the Browns and took Richardson before they picked.
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If I remember correctly, there were other teams bidding for that third pick. The Browns wanted to make sure they got their guy, and that meant moving up one spot. It had nothing to do with the Vikings drafting Richardson, everyone knew that wouldn't happen. It was to ensure nobody else traded ahead of the Browns and took Richardson before they picked.
Right. The Buccaneers were supposedly trying to move up to take Richardson ahead of us. After the draft we found out that was false and the Vikings played us like a fiddle. They were not moving down because their offensive line sucked and Kalil wouldn't be available when they picked later.
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And taking a RB w/the 3rd overall pick and trading up w/the team that had Adrian Peterson in their stable is downright stupid.
i agree with most of what you said but AP was coming off a horrific injury and surgery.. nobody really knew what to expect from him or if he would ever be the same. I don't think anybody expected them to take Richardson but AP was still a big ????????
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If I remember correctly, there were other teams bidding for that third pick. The Browns wanted to make sure they got their guy, and that meant moving up one spot. It had nothing to do with the Vikings drafting Richardson, everyone knew that wouldn't happen. It was to ensure nobody else traded ahead of the Browns and took Richardson before they picked.
Right. The Buccaneers were supposedly trying to move up to take Richardson ahead of us. After the draft we found out that was false and the Vikings played us like a fiddle. They were not moving down because their offensive line sucked and Kalil wouldn't be available when they picked later.
I don't know. I think it's 50/50 whether TB was trying to trade up and get Richardson or if Minny just used them as a threat. Yes, after the draft, they said they did not try to trade up, but why would they admit to a failure (if they tried)? And, they did try to get a similar (but lower graded by any report I saw) RB in the late 1st round (Doug Martin). TB is not complaining about how things played out today, but they very well could have put an offer in.
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And taking a RB w/the 3rd overall pick and trading up w/the team that had Adrian Peterson in their stable is downright stupid.
If I remember correctly, there were other teams bidding for that third pick. The Browns wanted to make sure they got their guy, and that meant moving up one spot. It had nothing to do with the Vikings drafting Richardson, everyone knew that wouldn't happen. It was to ensure nobody else traded ahead of the Browns and took Richardson before they picked.
I have heard that rationale [sic] before and frankly it makes no sense. Let's say you are right. Let's say that TB wanted to move up and to get TRich. I'll give you that, even though it isn't really a fact. But, I will give you that.
Why wouldn't we have traded w/TB? We could have picked up additional picks in a very, very strong draft and drafted D. Martin later, who looks to be the better NFL back.
TB would have taken our offer because they would have had to pay a bit less. No way was Minni drafting TRich. We could have filled many needs by trading down.
The real strength of that draft other than the top QBs, was how deep it was from the middle of the first round through the fourth round.
Btw---------I was calling all of it BEFORE the draft, as some of the other board's members will probably attest.
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Why wouldn't we have traded w/TB? We could have picked up additional picks in a very, very strong draft and drafted D. Martin later, who looks to be the better NFL back.
in hindsight, yes, that is what we should have done. but, at the time, everyone I read had Richardson rated higher (if not much higher) than Martin. the reason we traded up was either we outbid TB or Minny used them as a decoy to get us to bid.
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Don't get me wrong, I think it blows we have to worry about Trent. Always have concerns with Trent's reliability. That we have to even question whether he'll be ready for regular season or still battling an injury of some sort. This sucks given what the organization has invested to bring the young kid here, it really and truly does.
... but let's say he was in an offense that actually worked with a play caller that actually could make adjustments and get good play calls in previous season? What if he exceeded 1000 yards with broken ribs, would we be having this convo? Food for thought.
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People from the other board have already backed me up on this, but I said it before the draft.
There were a lot of people arguing about TRich or Blackmon. I never saw it that way. Trading down was always the way to go.
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They were not moving down because their offensive line sucked and Kalil wouldn't be available when they picked later.
Tampa Bay was picking 5th in that draft before they traded with Jacksonville. Kalil would have still been available to Minnesota at 5, because we weren't going to be taking Kalil.
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