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Browns acquire Seahawks Guard John Moffitt in exchange for DL Brian Sanford. We can assume Sanford was going to be cut ... and Moffitt has starting experience at Guard. Good move.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Great move. Depth a position we desperately need it for a guy that was most likely not going to make the 53 man roster. Anything positive we get out of Moffitt at this point is gravy.

Moffitt has started 15 games the last two years.

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Reading quickly about him, Moffitt seems to be a good run blocker and a suspect pass protector. He started 15 games the past two seasons.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Wow. I'm kinda surprised by this move...in a very good way. Maybe the Seahawks saw something in Sanford because this seems kinda lopsided in our favor.

Anyone know more about Seattle's oline situation that would allow them to move him?


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I seen a guard signing coming the second Jason Pinkston stayed laying on the ground. Cool we are stacked at linemen on the defense, so hopefully this exchange benefits both parties.

Personally don't know anything about him, but really don't know much San Ford either so hahaha... I'm worthless.

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Checking quickly on the Seattle message boards they seem to think Moffitt will fit us well and is a solid player ... but he's also a very interesting character. Very outspoken and funny, but kind of off the wall.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Very outspoken and funny, but kind of off the wall.




I like him already!


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Gotta like a Wisconsin linemen.

John Moffitt (born October 28, 1986) is an American football offensive guard for the Cleveland Browns. Moffitt was selected by the Seahawks with the 11th pick in the third round (75th overall) of the 2011 NFL Draft. He played college football at the University of Wisconsin.[1] On August 19, 2013, Moffitt was traded to the Cleveland Browns.

High school
Moffitt attended Notre Dame High School in West Haven, Connecticut, US, where he was a two-time all-conference choice as a two-way lineman. As a senior, he made 65 tackles and registered seven QB sacks in 2005. Regarded as a three-star recruit by Rivals.com, he was listed as the No. 13 prospect from the New England region.

College career
Moffitt was a 2010 All-American selection by Associated Press, CBSSports.com, and Rivals.com at the University of Wisconsin.

While some have heralded John's ability to run block, many red flags have been raised about his pass blocking skills. According to sidelinescouting.com, Moffitt is "not very fast" and "lacks real quickness", raising questions about his longevity as an American football guard or center.

Professional career
Moffitt was drafted number 75 overall by the Seattle Seahawks in the 2011 NFL Draft. During the live ESPN coverage of the draft, Moffitt was termed "unathletic" and "a reach" by ESPN analyst Todd McShay.[citation needed] Moffitt started nine games in the 2011 season before being injured in the week-13 game against the Baltimore Ravens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moffitt_(American_football)





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The Browns needed support at guard, and they got it today when they traded defensive end Brian Sanford to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for John Moffitt.

The 6-foot-4, 319-pound Moffitt started six games last season, four at right guard and two at left guard. A third-round draft pick in 2011, he started the first nine games of his rookie campaign before suffering a season-ending knee injury.

Moffitt, 26, is expected to hold down the fort at right guard while Jason Pinkston (high-ankle sprain) and Shawn Lauvao (arthroscopic ankle surgery) sit out the first few games of the regular season.

“We continue to look each day of the year for any opportunity to improve our roster,” Browns CEO Joe Banner said. “We’re committed to a building a team that can consistently compete in this league.”

Moffitt, a native of West Haven, Conn., started 42 of his 45 career games at the University of Wisconsin, combined as a guard and center. He was a redshirt freshman during Browns Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas’ senior year in Madison.

Sanford, 25, had been with the Browns since 2010, alternating between their practice squad and active roster. He appeared in five games in 2011 and one game last season.

The Browns made another roster move today. They terminated the contract of fullback Brock Bolen, who signed with the team in July. Bolen missed most of training camp with an injured calf.




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Absolutely love this move. No way is Gilkey starting material yet and neither Lauvao nor Pinkston have proven to be above average starters (yes I was clamoring for an upgrade at Guard in the draft).

Moffitt is certainly a character but was highly rated coming out of Wisconsin, and he's only 26. He is a tremendous run-blocker (something our current OLine lacks) so I think he'll help our right side beautifully. At best we've locked up our RG spot opposite Greco and basically completed our OLine. At worst we've got a stop gap who can provide spot starts and depth at the position without dramatic falloff.


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So, we got some experienced depth at OG in exchange for a guy that wasn't likely to make it past the first round of cuts?

Nice! Gotta love it.
Now the six million dollar question - will he be worth it?


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I like the move.


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He is already worth it (as long as his plane doesn't crash on the way to Cleveland). Trading a guy who won't make the roster for a guy who will make the roster and contribute is always worth it.

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Wow, Moffitt was a second-day draft pick. Nice that they got something for Sanford. He's got talent (especially quickness) and would have been a shame to see him just walk.

Here's a little story about Moffitt:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000...pended-sentence

In a nutshell... he got banned from a shopping mall, then was arrested for peeing in the parking lot of that mall 6 months later.

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Honestly, haven't we all done that?


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Hmm, gotta like the move. I know I was hoping something like this would happen for the guard position, and was calling on the GM to prove his worth. Funny when I read the " Browsn Acquire John Mo" I was thinking Moffitt though I didn't really have any knowledge of who that was, just a passing rememberance I guess.

I'm gonna miss you Sanford, I got to be honest, this defensive front 7 goes 14 deep, shoot, It went 14 deep and I forgot about Groves, and I wasn't even including Sanford, WOW. They just traded the #15 defensive front 7 player for a Guard who'll start probably for the first 6ish weeks at least.

One could have argued, You have a 50? million dollar running back is it wise to ask him to run behind a rookie Guard out of division 2 Chadron state? (No disrespect to Gilkey I hope he shines and out performs that assessment.)

Now we're not going to have to worry about it. This is something the Ravens might do. This almost brings a tear of joy to my eye, because for dozens of years (well not literally dozens), it seems like nothing the Browns would do.

( Now I wonder if the freaking bargaining agreement forced this kind of a move to be not cost prohibitive and thus a might as well do it kind of a thing? But that's a whole other can of worms. Hmm?)

Bottom line is. Wow, He's 26, so , Think about 12 month's from now if all 4 of these guards are healthy and if Gilkey beasts out.

Just for a back down to earth moment, I'll take a wait and see approach because remember.

These are the Browns. Anything can happen.

Shoot, go backwards just 21 days and say name the Starting offensive line in week 1.

We're going to miss you Sanford! You will fit in Well in Seattle. Just don't do TOO well.


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I think Moffitt is the one on the left.

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I like him already!




Fear us for we have Moffitt..?

I like the move. It will be interesting if he starts the next pre-season game or will Gilkey get a chance to start. Defensive line was stacked probably couldn't have kept Sanford anyways.

I really starting to like Banner. So far there really isn't a move that I thought Banner lost or was foolish. (Some might say Lombardi but I don't care about that)


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I think Moffitt is the one on the left.





Looks like he has nice legs.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Looks like all the other Hooters girls here in Cincy/Northern Kentucky.....just with more teeth.


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If that photo is somewhat current I can see why he has trouble with pass protection. Those forearms are kind of scrawny and I am willing to be he losing hand fights a lot. Yet he has a huge lower body so I can see why he might do well run blocking and pushing folks off the line.

Just hope he don't get our QB killed on passing plays.

Still you have to love the price even if he were to never start for us. Gilkey is better than some of you might realize.


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Wow you can know all of that based on his picture? Can someone post a picture of Weeden and have you tell us his issues as well?


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Is there any way I can "un-see" that pic?


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Well done, Razor.

Making a football analysis out of a beer pong tournament.


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No one else has said it directly....thanks Mike Lombardi for turning a camp cut in to a team asset.

He and his associate with Seattle had probably talked months ago about the team strengths and the areas they might be a little thin, so a week or so before each team had to cut these guys, we made a swap.


I love it. Moffitt has some plus side and gives us a little something at a position we needed to stiffen....and we did,


He is no all-pro by any means, but he has started over a few games, so he is at minimum a decent reserve player.


We just got better today!


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This is very true, and I'm not a Lombardi fan.

Sanford was on my list to be cut due to the depth on the line so getting someone like Moffit to potentially start is definitely a "win" for this organization. As many people are assuming, he'll start at RG until Lava comes back. And if he pulls a 2012 Greco, well, we have him on contract through next season.

At a minimum, he is depth at a 6-figure salary.. like many backups are.


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This is very true, and I'm not a Lombardi fan.

Sanford was on my list to be cut due to the depth on the line so getting someone like Moffit to potentially start is definitely a "win" for this organization. As many people are assuming, he'll start at RG until Lava comes back. And if he pulls a 2012 Greco, well, we have him on contract through next season.

At a minimum, he is depth at a 6-figure salary.. like many backups are.






Does anybody make less than $100,000 in todays NFL? I think practice squad players make $6000 a week for the 16 weeks of the season.


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I think the Rookie min. is something like 364k. Anybody on the 53 is above the rookie min I think.


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This is very true, and I'm not a Lombardi fan.

Sanford was on my list to be cut due to the depth on the line so getting someone like Moffit to potentially start is definitely a "win" for this organization. As many people are assuming, he'll start at RG until Lava comes back. And if he pulls a 2012 Greco, well, we have him on contract through next season.

At a minimum, he is depth at a 6-figure salary.. like many backups are.






Does anybody make less than $100,000 in todays NFL? I think practice squad players make $6000 a week for the 16 weeks of the season.




That's kinda my point....if he doesn't work out, or ends up backing up Lava/Pinkston when they come back, it's no serious hit to our salary cap. If he becomes a legit starter, we got him on a good deal through next year.


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I think the Rookie min. is something like 364k. Anybody on the 53 is above the rookie min I think.






That is what I thought. The way I first read Memphis' post, it sounded like some might be under 6 figures. After a second read, I get what he was saying.


Either way, it's a good signing. Nobody can complain about this.


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One of my best friends was drafted by the Titans in the 3rd round this past year ... his base salary is right on par with the rookie minimum (his signing bonus is what separates him really) ... so I'd assume Moffitt's contract wouldn't be too far off.


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You should know better than to say that.

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You should know better than to say that.




and here comes slick lol well, just watched some of his college highlights. He is very slow and nonathletic. I can see why someone said he is suspect in pass blocking. With that being said he still may be better the Gilkey right now...


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Never saw the guy play,, Don't know if sanford would have made the team or not. I suspect not if they were willing to trade him

We did indeed need Oline depth at Guard so works for me.


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OWINGS MILLS, Maryland -- With their two most experienced guards sidelined due to injury, the Browns made a minor trade today to bolster their offensive line.

They acquired guard John Moffitt from the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for defensive end Brian Sanford. Moffitt, who’s made 15 starts in his two pro seasons, will battle Garrett Gilkey for the right-guard duties.

The club is without Pinkston (high ankle sprain) and Lauvao (arthroscopic knee surgery) until early in the regular season.

Gilkey, a converted tackle from Division II Chadron State, has impressed the coaching staff with his athleticism and energy, but he remains raw. He played right guard in a game for the first time Thursday in replacing Pinkston and held his own against Detroit’s nasty defensive tackle Ngdamukong Suh.

Offensive coordinator Norv Turner sounded like a coach who preferred a bit more seasoning at that position in his Sunday afternoon news conference.

“He’s made a lot of progress in a short period of time,” offensive coordinator Norv Turner said of Gilkey. “He has a long way to go but he does give you some hope in terms of depth and a guy that eventually will be a player.”

Enter Moffitt, a 2011 third round draft pick from Wisconsin.

Moffitt started the first nine games of his rookie season as part of rebuilt Seahawks offensive line before suffering a season-ending knee surgery. Health also was a factor last season as he sustained an elbow injury in training camp and seemed to fall out of favor with the Seahawks’ staff. Moffitt made six starts, but was lost his job to J.R. Sweezy, a converted defensive lineman.

The Seahawks also are beginning to use rookie Alvin Bailey at guard.

Moffitt, 26, certainly doesn’t lack size at 6-foot-4, 319-pounds, but he failed to progress in the system of demanding offensive line coach Tom Cable. He gets a fresh start with offensive line coach George Warhop and the Browns.

“We continue to look each day of the year for any opportunity to improve our roster,” Browns CEO Joe Banner said in a statement. “We’re committed to a building a team that can consistently compete in this league.”

Sanford, 25, had been with the Browns since 2010, vacillating between practice squad and active roster. He appeared in five games in 2011 and one last season.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/08/browns_trade_for_seahawks_guar.html


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So Seattle is going to start playing Alvin Bailey at RG ... they drafted him this year and he was the guy I was pimping heavily. I think he's a legit NFL starter.


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Excellent move. You guys covered most of what I was going to say. I did like the kid in college.

Bottom line: we got a guy who will help us for a guy who wouldn't have made the team.

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Offensive coordinator Norv Turner sounded like a coach who preferred a bit more seasoning at that position in his Sunday afternoon news conference.

“He’s made a lot of progress in a short period of time,” offensive coordinator Norv Turner said of Gilkey. “He has a long way to go but he does give you some hope in terms of depth and a guy that eventually will be a player.”



It's refreshing to have a guy like Banner who will get players the coaches want rather than dictating the roster like previous regime did.

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I had a 2nd round grade on Moffit coming out. Cant complain about that move. He has some deceptive mobility. A bit more zone is coming I suspect.

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I was thinking 3rd. I forget which round he ended up getting drafted.

I also think we will do more zone blocking this year. I hope so. I love zone blocking, It is far superior to man blocking---we called it base blocking. You need smarter guys. More technically sound guys. More cohesion amongst your OL. But, it is FAR more effective than the big dummies who can only man/base block.

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