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Browns HOF RB Jim Brown Blasts Former Team President Mike Holmgren
By DARYL RUITER, 92.3 The Fan Browns Beat Reporter
September 25, 2013 5:13 PM
Cleveland Browns Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown speaks with reporters after being named a special adviser to the team / (Photo by Daryl Ruiter CBS Cleveland)
Cleveland Browns Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown speaks with reporters after being named a special adviser to the team / (Photo by Daryl Ruiter CBS Cleveland)
CLEVELAND (92.3 The Fan) – Cleveland Browns Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown has never been one to mince words.
On Tuesday night’s episode of ‘Inside the NFL’ which airs on Showtime, Brown unloaded on former team president Mike Holmgren.
Brown, who joined host James Brown and analysts, All-Pro greats Phil Simms and Cris Collinsworth, was asked why he took a 3-year hiatus from the team.
“Mike Holmgren,” Brown said. “Well, Mike is not from Cleveland. I’m a Cleveland Brown. So he gave me a choice of taking three dollars and doing a little dancing for him out there. I said, ‘Mr. Holmgren I’m sorry…I don’t dance…become a mascot type of guy’…And I cracked up but I wrote him a letter. And I stated those things and I had a little humor with it because I knew ultimately I would probably be back because Cleveland is my home. I have great roots there and I love the people and the people love me.”
Shortly after Holmgren took over as president in January 2010, he dismissed Brown as a special adviser to the team. Brown was insulted so much by Holmgren that he boycotted the team’s September ceremony to unveil a ‘Ring of Honor’ at FirstEnergy Stadium.
Holmgren signed a 5-year, $40 million deal to take control of the franchise but Brown said all he did was steal money from then owner Randy Lerner.
“They were going to clean house,” Brown said. “And he had all his boys that were going to come in and take advantage of the kind of money that he could pay his guys. And never really be there. He took advantage of Randy (Lerner) and it was just a shame.
“Randy’s a good guy, young owner. (He) wanted someone to take the pressure off of him. Mike came in, saw the weakness, and took advantage of it.”
The flap with Brown was just the first of many PR gaffes Holmgren committed while in charge of the Browns. The most embarrassing came when he mishandled the Colt McCoy concussion controversy in Dec. 2011 and dropped this line on media and fans.
“The problem is and the tough thing for you guys and our fans is it seems it’s business as usual, which is very easy to write and say, but I’m telling you that it’s not,” Holmgren said. “You can choose to believe me or you can say, ‘I’ve heard it before.’ That’s your choice, but when it does happen, don’t come to me for extra tickets to a playoff game or something. Don’t do that. You’re either with us or you’re not. I’m telling you it’s different now.”
Holmgren, who failed to find a franchise quarterback or field a watchable team that won only 9 games under his watch, was sent packing Nov. 30, 2012.
Brown returned to the franchise in May when owner Jimmy Haslam named him a special adviser to the team and charged him with assisting with player engagement.
Brown was also asked to weigh in on last week’s stunning trade of Trent Richardson to Indianapolis for the Colts’ 2014 first-round pick.
“Well, I was surprised, but then I thought it was a brilliant move,” Brown said. “Because first of all, Trent couldn’t have carried the kind of load that Cleveland needed. But with Andrew Luck, Andrew won’t need as much. And the two of them can really do a lot for their team. And Cleveland with their draft choices, I think they were going to look at a quarterback.
“But now with the youngster playing the way he played last week, it might change a little bit. But I think with the first draft choices they can get in some really good players. And they have a young team and of course we had a great victory utilizing the kind of imagination that made the trade. That imagination is exciting because Cleveland is really popping right now.”
Brown said that he spoke with Richardson after the deal – but he wasn’t the only one.
“I called Trent Richardson because he’s a friend of mine,” Brown said. “As you say, when a player leaves, it can leave a bad smell in the locker room. But the great thing is that Jim Haslam also called him (Richardson) and Jim is the owner of the Browns, so there’s a touch of class in that organization.”
He also anticipates that the team isn’t done wheeling and dealing.
“They make the moves,” Brown said. “They’re going to make the bold moves… You’re never going to be able to rest because Joe Banner is going to like to deal. He dealt in Philadelphia.”
The full interview with Brown will air Tuesday night at 9 p.m. on Showtime.
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2013/09/25...inside-the-nfl/
Disgusting, it was horribly transparent when he hired Shummur and now we all know it was even worse than originally thought.
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Go J B! Usually I want him to just stfu, but in this case I hope he rips the walrus all season long.
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Never was much of a Holmgren fan. But it appears that maybe Jim Brown may have been right. Let's hope this FO can do something with that first rounder next year.
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I was a big fan of Holmgren coming here.
Not a fan of what he did while he was in charge here.
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Seems that all Holmgren wanted to do was pad his pockets with Lerners money and hire his buddies. Now I was fan of Heckert and thought he did a good job of improving the talent on this team, but when Shurmer was hired I thought, WTH?
Lerner just wanted nothing to do with this franchise and Holmgren was giving too much power and his ego got in the way, IMO.
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I was a big fan of Holmgren coming here.
Not a fan of what he did while he was in charge here.
I will admit to the same. I thought, if nothing else he would solve our QB issues.
Colt McCoy or Jake Delhomme was his answer. Holmgren pls
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I was a big fan of Holmgren coming here.
Not a fan of what he did while he was in charge here.
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Not a fan of what he did while he was in charge here.
That about sums it up for me. Although I was a little skeptical given his track record on the GM/player personnel side of things. He's screwed up there big time before he came to Cleveland.
I guess I had hoped - with the coaching out of the way - he would have done a good job. Sadly, this was misplaced hope.
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I was a big fan of Tom Heckert and not of Holmgren, simply for the history of their NFL drafts. The Colt Mccoy pick had Holmgren's name all over it and I think Heckert could have gotten a lot more value from that 3rd round pick. I also believe it was Holmgren who told Heckert to draft Weeden in the 1st round of 2012. Thus making a 2nd mistake. That's why I was not a fan of Holmgren. You pick enough QB's you're bound to hit on one of them, right?  I think if Heckert had been given full control of the draft we could potentially be 2 players closer to the playoffs.
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It turns out that coaching was probably the only thing he was good at.
He deserved to be fired for hiring Shurmur alone. Add in the potential busts that were drafted under his watch, the wasted Mangini year, and he was straight up terrible
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Thought this belonged here: Jim Brown: Trent Richardson trade by Browns brilliant By Marc Sessler Around the League Writer Published: Sept. 26, 2013 at 11:05 a.m. Updated: Sept. 26, 2013 at 01:04 p.m. Jim Brown has weighed in on Trent Richardson for possibly the final time. The Hall of Fame running back, who called Richardson an "ordinary" talent when he was drafted by the Cleveland Browns in 2012, approves of the trade that sent the runner to the Indianapolis Colts for a first-round pick. Brian Hoyer "I was surprised," Brown said Wednesday on Showtime's "Inside the NFL," per CBSSports. "But then I thought it was a brilliant move ... Because first of all, Trent couldn't have carried the kind of load that Cleveland needed." It should be noted that Brown grew close to Richardson over the past two seasons. When he spoke with "Around The League" in May, Brown praised Richardson's character and ability to play through injury as a rookie. "The things I said about him were not harsh at all," Brown said. "I said he looked like an ordinary back. That's not a criticism, that's a launching pad. What makes you great before you run the ball as a professional?" Now an employee of the team, Brown publicly agrees with the direction of Cleveland's current front office, but he's no fan of the previous regime. Brown pointed the finger Wednesday at former team president Mike Holmgren, who was fired three seasons into a five-year contract that paid him $8 million per year. "(Holmgren) had all his boys that were going to come in and take advantage of the kind of money that he could pay his guys and never really be there," Brown said. "He took advantage of (former owner) Randy (Lerner) and it was just a shame. Randy's a good guy. Young owner. Wanted someone to take the pressure off of him. Mike came in, saw the weakness and took advantage of it." Brown wasn't finished, saying: "Mike is not from Cleveland. I'm a Cleveland Brown. So he gave me a choice of taking three dollars and doing a little dancing for him out there. I said, 'Mr. Holmgren, I'm sorry ... I don't dance ... become a mascot type of guy.' And I cracked up, but I wrote him a letter. And I stated those things, and I had a little humor with it because I knew ultimately I would probably be back because Cleveland is my home. I have great roots there, and I love the people, and the people love me." Browns fans still love their legendary back, but Christmas cards from the Holmgren household are not on the way. web page
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I was a big fan of Holmgren coming here.
Not a fan of what he did while he was in charge here.
I thought it was a ridiculous hire from day one.
Now I just can't stand him.
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I don't see how anyone can stand him. It is now obvious that he is/was a scoundrel selling a bill of goods that he had no clue how to deliver.
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Go J B! Usually I want him to just stfu, but in this case I hope he rips the walrus all season long.
One of the few times I pretty much agreed with everything he said
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