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The mom should be charged and end up right next to this guy (animal), wherever he ends up.
She's also a victim here. She just lost her son.
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He did make that comment before the child died.
I wouldn't judge anyone on that decision. It seems to help some people to plunge back into things that bring even a short period of normalcy back to their lives, or to do something that helps take their mind off things for a short bit. Grief is a very personal thing, everybody does it differently.
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She left her son, alone, with a dude that had beaten on kids before.
I'm not really sure how else I can explain it. Do you think she's surprised that a guy that had previously beat up a young child beat up her young child? Is she saying, "How could this have happened?"
Just because she lost her son doesn't mean she's absolved of responsibility.
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The question is, did she know about his past? Should she have done her due diligence when it comes to someone around her child? Yes! I would hope if I was a single parent, I would check into anyone I'm bringing around my children. Heck, I do that with the childcare I hire, it's usually family, and will probably remain that way until both my kids are in school.
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I don't know if she knew, but would you leave your kid with someone without knowing them pretty well? I wouldn't leave my dogs with someone I didn't know and Trust.
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I personally don't leave my children with anyone but family. Heck, even my backup to my mother in law, who takes care of the kids while I work and is currently convalescing from knee replacement surgery, is a cousin of mine who does childcare for a living.
There are only two family members that live around here whom I wouldn't leave my kids with...one is dead, thankfully, since he wasn't a nice man at all, and the other struggles with alcoholism. Until she's sober and stays sober I won't leave my kids with her, and not only is she my aunt, she's my godmother.
So, I can't imagine just leaving my kids with someone I didn't trust implicitly.
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My daughter had to go to work recently to help with finances and I told her no one watches my grandkids but me.I don't trust very many people when it comes to them.
You just don't know how they are being treated when no one is watching.I have seen to many hidden cameras on news shows where kids are being mistreated by babysitters.If it were my kids that they did that to,the cops would come,but it would be to take me to jail not them cause I would beat the living hell out of them,then call the cops.
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I don't know if she knew, but would you leave your kid with someone without knowing them pretty well? I wouldn't leave my dogs with someone I didn't know and Trust.
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IMO she should be charged as an accomplice.
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IMO she should be charged as an accomplice.
Good luck with that . Stupid thing to say BTW.
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What is STUPID is leaving your two-year-old child with a man who is known to be violent in general, and towards children in particular.
Don't tell me "she didn't know", it's HER JOB to know!
This "mother" made a huge mistake. No one else made it for her. No one else is responsible for her error. Yes, her child is dead and that is very sad. It is her fault and people will make excuses for her, and that is even sadder.
Is it OK to let someone kill your child just because you might be poor, or a minority? Is that really a good enough excuse?
Make smarter decisions, or be prepared to suffer the consequences of stupid, irresponsible ones.
Negligent homicide or manslaughter should apply. Maybe the next stupid cow might actually give some thought to the character of who they leave their child with.
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There's a difference between being stupid and being criminally negligent. The mother was stupid for getting involved with a guy with a history of violence, but this stuff about her not leaving her child with anyone but a relative .... maybe she doesn't have any responsible relatives, and this guy was the best of a lot of bad options. Maybe she didn't have enough money to pay a professional. Who knows? It's hard to judge without knowing her circumstances. She was trying to get child support from the other guys she was with before Peterson, then tried to get it from him. Reportedly, Peterson wanted to be a father to the child, but that was the first he know that the child could be his. All I know is that this is a tragic situation. It is any time a child is murdered.
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Good luck with that . Stupid thing to say BTW.
Why is it a stupid thing to say? If you want to call me out thats fine, but have something to say.
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I haven't gone back to find it...did the "Mother" know the bf had an abusive history?
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I dont know, but its reported that she lied to the police and reported that the boy had choked on something, not been beaten. I found this, but Im not sure which mother the article is talking about. There are different kids with different moms, so its hard to keep the timeline straight. Quote:
In 2012, Patterson was charged with simple assault against the mother, however, and was ordered to undergo family violence training and to stay away from her until completing it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl...dition/2966015/
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I dont know, but its reported that she lied to the police and reported that the boy had choked on something, not been beaten.
I found this, but Im not sure which mother the article is talking about. There are different kids with different moms, so its hard to keep the timeline straight.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl...dition/2966015/
So , we can imply that he went through the required training, and then returned to the woman, supposedly "cured".
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You can imply whatever you like. People dont get "cured" from domestic violence.
Also why would she lie to the police to cover for him? Who does that? How can a person not put their kids first?
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j/c when my mom passed away (brain cancer) in July, (sorry for not giving updates) I went back to work a few days later.It was easier for me to try and find what was normal and comfortable to me.
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Ive always been that was myself. Its better to stay busy and keep in the routine.
sorry for your loss.
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I haven't gone back to find it...did the "Mother" know the bf had an abusive history?
One of the linked stories says she "Sioux Falls police said Patterson recently started a relationship with the mother of the 2-year-old victim", so it's very possible she didn't know of his past.
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Ive always been that was myself. Its better to stay busy and keep in the routine.
sorry for your loss.
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IMO she should be charged as an accomplice.
Good luck with that . Stupid thing to say BTW.
In Cleveland last week, a woman parked her car with her infant inside to run into a house or store (don't remember which). Someone stole the car and must have realized that there was a baby in there, they dumped the car (van) pretty quickly and they baby was safe thank goodness.
She's been charged with a crime. I think it was child endangerment or something along those lined.
So, while you might think it was a stupid post, I think you are not only wrong but there is a precedent for some charge of some kind.
Not stupid at all.
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Why is it a stupid thing to say?
Because there are so many things we don't know about the mother and the situation that to even speculate on it is ...well ... stupid. Think for just a minute about what you don't know about this story , what the facts are and tell me again how you came to the conclusion that the mother should be charged as an accomplice .
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Is it OK to let someone kill your child just because you might be poor, or a minority?
Where in that article did it say the mother was either poor or a minority ? I must have overlooked that . Careful Nelson you sheet it showing .
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So, while you might think it was a stupid post, I think you are not only wrong but there is a precedent for some charge of some kind.
Not stupid at all.
Only if they could prove the mother knew of his violent past, and knew his intentions. Even then it would be hard to prosecute in court unless she had approved of his handling of the child or did nothing while it was happening.
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Why is it a stupid thing to say?
Because there are so many things we don't know about the mother and the situation that to even speculate on it is ...well ... stupid. Think for just a minute about what you don't know about this story , what the facts are and tell me again how you came to the conclusion that the mother should be charged as an accomplice .
Maybe accomplice is the wrong term.
She left her child with a dangerous man, then (allegedly) lied to 911 dispatchers to try to cover for him.
That to me seems like neglect at the least, or maybe i'm just pretty sensitive as I have a 2 year old of my own and couldn't imagine leaving her with some career violent offender.
Doesnt seem stupid to me at all.
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So, while you might think it was a stupid post, I think you are not only wrong but there is a precedent for some charge of some kind.
Not stupid at all.
Only if they could prove the mother knew of his violent past, and knew his intentions. Even then it would be hard to prosecute in court unless she had approved of his handling of the child or did nothing while it was happening.
Who, the guy that stole the car or the guy that beat AP's kid?
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It kills me that people are defending the mother. You don't leave your child w/people you do not trust. Period. End of story.
And we are so darn politically correct in this country that we are afraid to call it as we see it. I'm not, though. The woman had a child from AP. He didn't even know about it until recently. She was already w/another man. A man who has a history of abuse. She leaves the child w/this low life and the child is murdered.
But yeah, let's make excuses for these stinking people. They put their own pleasure above responsibility. It's the culture. Me first..........the rest of the world can take a hike. And then cry that you are the freaking victim at every chance. Give me a break!
I know one thing...........No Way do I leave my child w/someone I don't unconditionally trust. And I know another.............my wife was even more strict about that than I was. And that is one of the reasons I married her. I knew she would be a good mother.
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What does the phrase "might be" mean to you? Take your sheet and pack it.
Every summer, here in Florida, there would be not just one, but two or three or more people who cooked their own children leaving them in parked cars. People would boo-hoo about the poor parents, nothing was done, and it kept happening. Over, and over, and over again. I remember two in one week.
Then they started putting people in prison for slow-roasting their kids to death. Somebody realized that stupid is no excuse, and something should be done to reduce the number of dead babies, so some multi-year sentences were handed out.
Amazingly enough, this really cut down on the number of dead kids.
Either you consider endangering children acceptable, or not. If not, then the next obvious step is to do something about it. No excuses.
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I dont know, but its reported that she lied to the police and reported that the boy had choked on something, not been beaten.
Then I would consider her guilty unless she was telling 911 what the killer was telling her happend to the boy.
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It kills me that people are defending the mother. You don't leave your child w/people you do not trust. Period. End of story.
And we are so darn politically correct in this country that we are afraid to call it as we see it. I'm not, though. The woman had a child from AP. He didn't even know about it until recently. She was already w/another man. A man who has a history of abuse. She leaves the child w/this low life and the child is murdered.
She didn't believe AP to believe the father of the baby. She thought another man was and that man is the father (not biologically speaking, but he raised him) as well. Please don't try to shame someone you don't know the name of. All of the charges should be announced by next week, so I think we should hold all of our judgement until things actually come out.
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We are allowed to speculate on a topic, aren't we?? I mean, just look at all the football threads about Weeden. Should we just sit here and wait around without having thoughts? 
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It's hard to keep track of the numbers without a scorecard, but so far I've got :
1. The actual father of the child, not sure anybody knows who this is;
2. Her first suspected father who was tested and was not;
3. The man who "raised" the child for about two years and was not the father, though he may, or may not, have been told he was;
4. AP, brought in during a time of financial crisis;
5 This is out of order but he has to be last, the guy with a record of Domestic Violence who murdered the child.
That's 5 so far, there may be some overlap.
All of those choices and especially #5 are somewhat less than optimal.
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It's hard to keep track of the numbers without a scorecard, but so far I've got :
1. The actual father of the child, not sure anybody knows who this is;
2. Her first suspected father who was tested and was not;
3. The man who "raised" the child for about two years and was not the father, though he may, or may not, have been told he was;
4. AP, brought in during a time of financial crisis;
5 This is out of order but he has to be last, the guy with a record of Domestic Violence who murdered the child.
That's 5 so far, there may be some overlap.
All of those choices and especially #5 are somewhat less than optimal.
1. I believe AP was tested and was the father.
2&3. True that he was not the biological father, but he sees himself as the father and raised the child while AP did not. What makes someone a father is not their blood, but in there heart. Not saying AP was/is a bad dude, but he just didn't have the chance to be a father.
4. I haven't seen anything in this about AP being brought in during a time of financial crisis.
5. His previous report for child abuse was spanking a child so hard that he needed ice and that's all he did. I'm not sure how I feel about that, as many people spank children. Though domestic abuse should be more harshly punished in this society and should have its own website like sexual predators do.
I have no problem with speculation, but some of it seems like thinly veiled misogyny and double standards at best.
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Got a link? The article I posted earlier made it sound much worse than that.
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Got a link? The article I posted earlier made it sound much worse than that.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl...on-son/2988263/
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