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I do think Florida's defense could rally around the fact that nobody is giving them a chance, but how in the hell is this team going to score on FSU? They have a horrible offense, and FSU's defense is very good, even if they haven't really been tested much this year.

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Can't say I've ever seen anything like that before!




Not even on the Browns?



No, nobody on the Browns has ever held their block that long on a running play.




I dunno about that. You must only be talking about the post-modern era since 1999.


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No way is the line -7, that doesn't make sense.

I expected you to respond with -20.5 or something like that. Someone must know something (arrest pending).

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Here's a stat via Colin Cowherd, that might give a little insight as to why people bash Ohio State's schedule.

Even the average teams they play, they get them at home. It's not Ohio State's fault, but it is what it is.

Teams Ohio State has beaten on the road (Cal, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois) have a combined conference record of 1-29. The only win being Illinois over Purdue.



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And three of those teams are in their conference, that they HAVE to play. And why only provide their conference W-L record?

I'm not defending OSU because I don't like them. I'm attacking the notion that people like to rip TeamA for having a weak SOS, TeamB for playing an FCS school late in the year, or TeamC for not scheduling tough OOC opponents. It's like this EVERY YEAR! It's rare that a plays a legit tough schedule.

The only way to solve this is to standardize the schedules by creating four 16-team Super Conferences and only allow them to play each other, similar to an NFL predetermined schedule. And then expanding the playoffs.

If we had the 4-team playoff format this year, would we still have all this discussion? I know most will say yes, but I think it's because people will complain about anything. Nobody would be crying about OSU's schedule, or why Bama was playing Chattanooga, or quality wins in the top 25 as much as they are today. Sure, the 4, 5, & 6 teams would be torn apart, but I think at the end of the day, having 4 teams in will quiet more of this yearly arguing.


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Their overall record is 10-36.



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Like I've said before, I don't think it's Ohio State's fault. They can't do anything about their conference, and it's easier said than done to schedule a big out of conference game.

But just because it's not their fault, does that mean we should ignore it?

Why is it different than when Boise State was going undefeated and missing out on BCS Title games?...



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OSU draws the short straw again. They either face Stanford or ASU in the Rose Bowl, neither teams are really those "Wow. OSU really showed them." teams, while MSU, if they lose the B1G Championship, will be facing Auburn or Mizzou. Doesn't seem fair, does it?

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But just because it's not their fault, does that mean we should ignore it?




Short answer, yes.

Long answer, what are you or the people talking about it trying to do with that fact? Move them down to 4, down to 10, or maybe allow them to move up once they beat MSU, but then MSU isn't as high as they were, so that kinda hurts OSU. It never stops.

It's an imperfect system and people are always trying to make sense of it. And its impossible.

I feel like people are searching for a team that has one loss but has beaten seven Top 15 teams, so they can nominate them as the true #2 team in the country. The problem is, they don't exist.

The system ranks teams before games start, teams rise and fall based on the real and perceived rankings of the loser, and then we toss the two highest teams in a championship bowl game. I'm telling ya, a pair of European teenage girls could design a better system.

So all this arguing is just pointless. That's all I'm saying.


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Like I've said before, I don't think it's Ohio State's fault. They can't do anything about their conference, and it's easier said than done to schedule a big out of conference game.

But just because it's not their fault, does that mean we should ignore it?

Why is it different than when Boise State was going undefeated and missing out on BCS Title games?...




The Big Ten may be down, but they aren't bad to the level of the WAC or Mt. West. They should still get credit for running a major conference schedule even in a down year.

FSU's schedule is garbage too. They should thank their lucky stars they got to play an overrated Clemson team on the road, that has only kept their ranking, because they haven't played anybody either. What is there, 1 win over a current ranked team between FSU and Clemson?

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Do they think an arrest is going to be made this week or something?



Tallahassee police already said they won't make a decision until after the Thanksgiving holiday...

Regardless, FSU should be Florida by 25 with their back-up.


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Do they think an arrest is going to be made this week or something?



Tallahassee police already said they won't make a decision until after the Thanksgiving holiday...

Regardless, FSU should be Florida by 25 with their back-up.




Totally agree.

It's just weird that it's off the board at every major vegas resort and even lots of offshore.

Normally you get that with the NFL because the injury report is released on wed or thur, and if a QB is in question, they won't bother until they get the report.

In college, there is no rule that says they have to put out a report. They can kind of do whatever they want, which usually means the lines are up Monday or even Sunday night.

It's just a little weird that this one is still off the board.

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The Big Ten may be down, but they aren't bad to the level of the WAC or Mt. West. They should still get credit for running a major conference schedule even in a down year.



And they do, which is why they are #3 and Fresno State and Northern Illinois, who are also undefeated are 16/18 or something like that.

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Pretty much, it's just prettier garbage.

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They should thank their lucky stars they got to play an overrated Clemson team on the road, that has only kept their ranking, because they haven't played anybody either.



They should, but then they get to play them every year... maybe it's OSU who should be ticked that Wisconsin lost to ASU and Michigan has lost to lots of people.. if those teams would beat the nobodies (not that ASU is a nobody any more) but then they would look as good as an overrated Clemson team.

Now I'm not sure if Clemson is overrated or not, we will find out about that this weekend when they travel to play USC..

But just so I'm clear, and I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but if/when OSU beats Michigan State, is that a quality win against a ranked opponent or a win over an overrated Michigan State team who also hasn't beaten anybody and lost to a barely ranked Notre Dame?

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What is there, 1 win over a current ranked team between FSU and Clemson?



FSU is very much in the same place as OSU, just marginally ahead. FSU really needs Clemson to beat USC, they need Duke to beat UNC this weekend and a few other teams to lose so Duke rises into the high teens and then they can beat them in the ACC championship game.

It's a weird year the way schedules worked out and with so many historically good teams flirting with mediocrity. Heck Alabama hasn't beaten a team currently in the top 15.. when is the last time you could say that at Thanksgiving about the SEC?

Traditionally FSU would be looking at a top 10 Va Tech team in the ACC championship game, Wisconsin would have been flirting with the top 10, and Alabama would have played 2 or 3 top 10 teams by now...

If you take the top 4 teams in either conference, these are their OOC games.. It's really not that different, but in the court of public opinion, playing the SEC schools definitely helps the ACC

ACC (Figure FSU, Clemson, Duke, Va Tech)
Alabama
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
East Carolina
Nevada
Idaho
South Carolina State
Citadel
North Carolina Central
Memphis
Troy
Navy
Western Carolina
Bethune-Cookman
Marshall

Now Big 10 (Figure OSU, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Nebraska)
Arizona State
UCLA
Notre Dame
California
BYU
Western Michigan
South Florida
Youngstown State
Buffalo
San Diego State
Florida A&M
Massachusetts
Tennessee Tech
Wyoming
Southern Miss
South Dakota State


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If you ask me, Wisconsin is a better team than MSU. They're a borderline top 10 team.

I realize they played nobody out of conference, but they are an impressive team to watch. They also had a pretty respectable loss at Ohio State. Their coach now is ten times the coach Bielema ever was.

MSU's only loss came to ND and before the made a QB change. They're a very solid team. Their defense is very good. I see them as 14-15 in the country, where I think UW is very close to top 10.

But yeah, Ohio State fell victim to Michigan being vastly overrated, Nebraska not being good at all, and Penn State irrelevant for at least 4-5 more years.

I don't think that should take away from OSU, but I understand it's about the resume in the end, which is why I say FSU should feel very lucky to have the Clemson game in their pocket, because Ohio State may end up with 2 top 20 wins to FSU having a win either in the top 10 or if Clemson loses Saturday, a top 15 win.

If Clemson gets destroyed and their two losses are to the only 2 ranked teams they played all year, both times being humliated, what happens then? How far should they drop?

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Sadly, this isn't far from the truth.

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If Clemson gets destroyed and their two losses are to the only 2 ranked teams they played all year, both times being humliated, what happens then? How far should they drop?



If they lose a close one, they should drop to 10 or 11.. if they get blown out again.. I don't know, 16 or 17.. (all of this is, of course, predicated what the other teams around them do)


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because Ohio State may end up with 2 top 20 wins to FSU having a win either in the top 10 or if Clemson loses Saturday, a top 15 win.



However, if Duke beats UNC, which they should, they could move into the top 20.. already at 24.. the FSU will play them in the ACC Championship game.... and I know what people are saying, "C'mon, it's DUKE?!?"... but that is the same kind of public perception that is killing OSU right now, this preconceived notion about what constitutes a "quality win"

Said it before, will say it again, there is not THAT MUCH of a difference between OSU and FSU when you get inside it... so I hope people don't take it as me disparaging OSU because that is not my intent.... in the end, they have to make the decision based on something and I think when all is said and done, FSU will win based on a small margin... sad, would be a great year for the 4 team playoff, then we could be arguing if Auburn deserves it if they give Bama a great game.. or Missouri if they get the SEC championship game and give Bama a battle.. personally I like to see Okie State get a chance..


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Duke getting beat by FSU would knock them back out of the top 25 though...

I think OSU could end up with 2 ranked wins to FSU's 1. Something tells me that they wouldn't jump FSU anyway.

If OSU were in FSU's position, I'd be arguing against that too. It's unfortunate.

I also think OSU is in a no win situation with the B1G conference game. You would think a close win would validate MSU as a good team but the negative view at OSU will be that they struggled in the game.

Blow out MSU and they weren't that good anyway. Like I said, I think OSU has already beaten the 2nd best team in the conference.

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Likewise, Wisconsin shouldn't be getting dinged as badly as they are for losing to Arizona State.. seemed like a bit of a shock at the time but it turns out, Arizona State is pretty darn good.

I don't know if Duke gets knocked out for losing to FSU, first it depends on if/how much they move up this week assuming they win.. then it will really depend on how they lose to FSU..

And FSU really is in the same position as OSU with the conference championship game.. if it's a struggle, it means FSU isn't that good, if it's a blowout, it means that Duke is still just Duke... which is why I said earlier, FSU could have really benefitted from VaTech having a decent year and getting into that game...


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I also think OSU is in a no win situation with the B1G conference game. You would think a close win would validate MSU as a good team but the negative view at OSU will be that they struggled in the game.




Depends on how the game goes. If OSU takes the lead fairly early and holds it for most of the game but MSU keeps it close the entire time nobody but true haters will say that OSU struggled. MSU is a good team that should challenge OSU.

Should OSU need late-game heroics to win then yeah, it'll be said that they struggled, and it'll be the truth.

OSU *should* beat MSU. Maybe not handily, but I think most any rational person will see them as the clear favorite.

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OSU and MSU played a pretty close game last year, and you could say going into the game next week that both teams are better all around than they were at that point.

OSU's offense took a huge step from last year to this year, and MSU is a little better on offense and still boasts a very good defense.

FSU/UF is back on the boards and it's roughly 27-28 points.

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I honestly see no way we jump bama or FSU if both are undefeated at the end of the year.... the voters have consistently put both way ahead of OSU. To me Bama is the clear #1 but they haven't even gotten all the #1 votes with FSU taking some.

ANd honestly, watching FSU, they have looked better than OSU IMO. Though OSU has been rolling the last couple of weeks I still would put FSU above them. I think OSU's only chance is to win out and have Bama lose to Auburn... So GO WAR EAGLES!!!!


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Ohio State's Ryan Shazier displays the fierce qualities of college football's greatest rivalry, plus stunning speed: Bill Livingston

By Bill Livingston, The Plain Dealer
November 29, 2013

ANN ARBOR, Mich. – The statistic is from the iconic days of the rivalry, when there was a 10 Years War, when one-name legends Woody and Bo met for a berth in the One True Bowl.

Last week, against Indiana, a team that likes to spread opponents out and hit ‘em where they ain’t, Ohio State linebacker Ryan Shazier hit ‘em hard and often. He had 20 tackles, 16 of them solo, five for losses. The tackles for loss tied the school record. It showed why Shazier is a finalist for the Butkus Award as college football’s best linebacker.

“Have you ever had a player make 20 tackles?” OSU coach Urban Meyer was asked.

“I was here (as a graduate assistant in 1986) when (Chris) Spielman had 30 or something like that against the rivals," Meyer said. "We probably have. But 20 is a lot of tackles.”

Actually, Spielman was credited with 29 tackles vs. Michigan. It is still a whole lot of tackles.

To many, the Ohio State-Michigan game at high noon Saturday at the Big House has been drastically downsized since the days when such giants played in it.

In part, that is because Ohio State has been dominant here and elsewhere, as reflected in a 10-2 record vs. Michigan since 2001 and school-record 23-game winning streak.

Ohio State fans of mature years, however, remember a 22-game winning streak that died here in 1969, Bo Schembechler’s first year at Michigan. That game gave the rivalry a more strident tone.

Michigan has a lowly 7-4 record, but that too rings bells that can’t be unrung. Three four-loss Michigan teams ruined Ohio State’s Rose Bowl and national championship hopes, as well as the Buckeyes' undefeated season, within recent memory -- in 1993, 1995 and1996, all during the D’oh Years with John Cooper.

The One True Bowl, the Rose, is only that in its BCS Championship Game incarnation for Ohio State, which is on the outside looking in for the big game. Even the ordinary Jan. 1 Rose Bowl game is an impossible dream for Michigan.

Astronomical scoring totals pop up every week around the land. Ohio State has set a season record for most points scored. In an age of playing in space, with containment predicated on speed, when it seems as if Michigan can’t stop anybody and Ohio State’s defense has not been the team strength, either, Shazier is an anomaly.

He is capable of putting up tackle totals that were seen when The Game was restricted to the pits between the tackles and tactics resembled a football version of the scrums over No Man’s Land in World War I.

Shazier in production can be a throwback to the Ohio State linebackers of the past, who ate their Wheaties, or at least appeared on the front of the box (Spielman), or who played with the fire of a nickname that demanded it (Thomas “Pepper” Johnson), or who was so promising they unretired Archie Griffin’s number for him (Andy Katzenmoyer.)

None of them, not Bobby Carpenter, A.J. Hawk, Anthony Schlegel and James Laurinaitis who followed in this century, was like Shazier, a junior from Florida.

“The thing that he's doing, he used to always overrun plays. If you remember back, he was almost like a safety playing linebacker,” said Meyer. “He's grown into that linebacker position, and now he's fallen in on plays. He's made a bunch of tackles where his instinct is on the inside zone or zone play which everybody runs, which is to go front side. That is the concept of the plays. He's cut back behind it. He did that as well as I've seen him play and as well as I've seen a linebacker do it. “

Shazier, even at 225 pounds, seems more like a muscled sprinter than the linebackers of the past. Said Jim Lachey, the Ohio State radio network analyst and a former Hog in good standing on the offensive line for a Washington Redskins Super Bowl championship team: “He’s fast. In fact, he’s a flash. He’s not a typical linebacker. You’re used to seeing a big-time linebacker, and they’re a little thicker, they’ve got a little (butt) to them. Shazier can run like a back, but he’s got a lot of power and pop to him. “

Power and pop are always part of The Game’s plan. The Buckeyes are propagandized during Michigan Week by Meyer’s mentor, Earle Bruce, whose style, even at the age of 82, is that of Patton in front of the big American flag. Meyer’s intensity is as great, although in public he banks the fire, much as Shazier has learned to control his speed.

“You can just tell when (Meyer) walks into the hallways, and all you hear is ‘It’s time for war!’” Shazier said. “At the practices, we’re way more intense. When we go through the drills, you can just see the look in his eyes, just the rage, he wants to win so bad in this game.”

Lachey casts Shazier’s impact as more than the physics of velocity and impact. “Shazier has got something from within,” Lachey said. “You can almost feel it. That guy lays it on the field when he plays. That’s part of the effectiveness of the defense. They see him out there, flying around, making plays, and they say, ‘Look at Shazier!’”

Shaven headed; swift to the flash-point of contact as a blitzer; able to pass rush from a three-point stance, as did Carpenter; covering receivers tightly, as did Laurinaitis -- Shazier is the embodiment of the speed and strength that are Ohio State’s recruiting focus and weight-room ideals.

Like Spielman, who played for the fiery Bruce, Shazier is best seen as the on-field expression of his coach’s rage to win. That fury has always fueled the best players in The Game. In that regard, Shazier is very familiar indeed.

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We have anywhere from 35 to 45 people showing up tomorrow. My wife has 3 crockpots going right now.....all day, really. 20 pounds of pork loin to make pulled pork sandwiches.

Venison meatballs, as well. Plus all the assorted dips, etc.

She made cut out cookies in the shape of an M. (she's a michigan fan). Garage is swept, cleaned.....5 tables set up out there........our entire kitchen will be full of food.

Only have 2 t.v.'s. (the upstairs t.v. is where I'll be herding the kids....that's the third t.v.)

We've never had a party this big. And why she, as a michigan fan, is doing it this year I don't know.

After the game, it'll be shooting pumpkins. And then I'm sure it will turn into shooting tannerite targets. BOOM.

Heaven forbid OSU doesn't win............

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Wow. Two pretty good QBs.

I watched this game because I wanted to see more of Carr. I admit I came away impressed. I think I might have to take back some of my negative comments. Here is what I saw:

--Excellent arm strength
--Very good accuracy
--Quick release
--Delivered the ball on-time for the most part
--Decent athlete
--Got a lot of time to throw, hard to judge how he deals w/pressure
--Zipped the ball and showed good touch on other throws
--Coach on the field

I was also surprised w/David Fales. Heard he had a weak arm and was too short. Not sure where all that came from. He looked to be at least 6;3". Here is what I saw:

--Very quick release
--Extremely accurate
--Great touch
--Strong enough arm. It wasn't weak
--Better athlete than credited for
--Clutch throws
--Mobility in the pocket
--Great touch on deep throws
--Spun it when he had to

I came away impressed w/both guys. Granted, both defenses were putrid and there were a ton of open receivers and missed tackles that led to big plays, but these two QBs did their jobs. It will be interesting to see where these guys end up being drafted. I liked both of them and they are two more options for us to consider.


Sidenote: I have been saying that Mettenberger was a knee injury waiting to happen. Unfortunately, it happened today. He just stands too upright in the pocket under heavy pressure. He doesn't play w/a natural knee bend. His legs are too rigid, if that makes sense. Sad thing to see. Hope he recovers quickly. With that said..........I wouldn't draft him. It will happen again.

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First of all, the Ohio Stave vs Michighan game deserves it's own Thread!
2nd of all, This is what I'm talking about.

I've been in Columbus for (well a while) and everytime I see everybody on T.V. and everybody on Radio, and all the reports and pre-game prognosticators talking about how easy a game is going to be for the Bucks,
THEY LOSE!
Whether it's against, Illinois, or Northwestern, or the Florida national championship game, or a game against anyone. Especially a bowl game, or a conference road game.

If for one minute, these idiot talking heads ,(not you), could quit clanking their beer mugs to celebrate a victory in a game BEFORE THE KICKOFF! Maybe they'd allow for some proper perspective and focus.

to the local sportscasters.

I expect Michighan will not only have the Lead at points in tomorrows game, but they might outright WIN IT! This Buckeye team just came off giving up more points than they scored in a large section of the 2nd half, against INDI freaking ANA.

Ohio State has had defensive problems ALL YEAR LONG, This is the biggest game for Michigan in 2 years, because it's a home Buckeye game.

It'll be a shame to watch, if a complacent Ohio State team goes out there and doesn't play as well as they could play, vs that opponent.

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I expect Michighan will not only have the Lead at points in tomorrows game, but they might outright WIN IT! This Buckeye team just came off giving up more points than they scored in a large section of the 2nd half, against INDI freaking ANA.

Ohio State has had defensive problems ALL YEAR LONG, This is the biggest game for Michigan in 2 years, because it's a home Buckeye game.

It'll be a shame to watch, if a complacent Ohio State team goes out there and doesn't play as well as they could play, vs that opponent.




You do realize this "complacent Ohio State team" has won 23 straight games, right? Hard to label a team "complacent" when they have won that many in a row. And I don't care who you are playing. 23 straight is impressive!

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Michigan's only hope is for Ohio State to turn the ball over at least 3 times without committing any turnovers theirselves.

Michigan is weak in the interior of their Offensive line and does not have a consistant running game. Once their run game is shut down teams have pressured Devin Gardner and he has not performed well under pressure. Their defense has not been over spectacular either.

Ohio state's offense is strong enough to score 30+ points on the Michigan defense and if the game is played clean will win this game with a score around 35 to 13.

The only way OSU loses if they turn it over and give Michigan scoring chances while taking points of their own off the board.

With the way Michigan is recruiting this game will be close again soon but it won't be tomorrow.

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I saw the Mettenberger injury happen. Painful to watch. I immediately started telling myself, maybe this isn't the QB for the Browns. He already had a brace on a knee.. he'd be a risky pick.




I happened to see that. Looked really painful.

Speaking of painful ...... man ..... Oregon vs Oregon State is killing my eyes with those doubly ugly uniforms.


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I know it as a rivalry gwme tonight... But really Oregon? Y'all are going to rush the field after beating Oregon state??


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They had to be relieved. lol They came closer to getting beat than most expected.


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I know it as a rivalry gwme tonight... But really Oregon? Y'all are going to rush the field after beating Oregon state??




Please tell me they didn't really do that....



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I know it as a rivalry gwme tonight... But really Oregon? Y'all are going to rush the field after beating Oregon state??




Please tell me they didn't really do that....




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