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As the kick went... my reaction was like....
"And it's up...
... It's center, does it have enough?
"Oh there's a guy back there...
He's turning on the burners
Oh Crap!... holy Crap... Holy crap... holy crap..."
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I fell off my couch yelling for him to stay in bounds... unreal... I thought the Buckeyes game was crazy... but this game was nuts!! Auburn goes for a 4th down way back in their territory... don't get it... Bama goes for a 4th instead of kickign to go up by two scores and don't get it... then the missed FG run back... unreal...
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I'm 53yo and have been watching football my entire life. This was the greatest day of college football ever. 7 hours of nail biting excitement with two epic finishes in the two of the greatest sports rivalries. That kick runback was one of the greatest endings of all time.
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Did that just happen?
It sure did! May the Alabama/SEC Empire finally fall! 
I' d like to see how the BCS will justify keeping OSU out of the Top 2 now. 
If you listened to the Post-game show on CBS, they tried to make a case for it.
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Geez.. I'm bartending at my side jobtoday with my laptop on the bar.. I've had people hollering and screaming all day long at these two games.
I currently have the ND Stanford game on and the Clemson SC game on.. with possible USC UCLA game..
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Just killed the Stanford ND game in favor of A&M Mizzou
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Did that just happen?
It sure did! May the Alabama/SEC Empire finally fall!
I' d like to see how the BCS will justify keeping OSU out of the Top 2 now.
If you listened to the Post-game show on CBS, they tried to make a case for it.
The old-school way of voting on teams (now extinct) would leave no shot for a 1-loss team to jump over a major conference undefeated team.
The new-school way of voting makes it very possible to make a case for a team like 'Bama or Auburn to jump OSU.
For weeks I've been trying to figure out which team above OSU could get a loss so the Bucks could play in a championship game. Auburn gave me an early Christmas present. 
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Ideally we'll have a&m win tonight putting South Carolina in th sec champ game and have South Carolina win over auburn which makes sure that OSU gets into the championship with a huge win in hyenas big ten championship.....I could see the votes putting a one loss sec champion above OSU but no way they'd get ahead in the bcs... At least I hope...
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Yeah I agree about the BCS. tOSU is 9.2 and Auburn is at 8.2, I can't see there being enough time left for them to make up that much ground. MSU at #11 is no slouch for tOSU's schedule either.
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Well as of right now.. #5 Mizzou and #6 Clemson are losing so there could be a big shakeup coming..
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I would add biter too. I'm still bent over losing to Akron yesterday. That will probably cost Toledo a bowl game. Stupid.
There's almost no way to project the BCS title game right now. Crazy!
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The only plus right now is that at 18 pages, they're bound to close it before it hits 30 pages.
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A&m is trying to finish off a great buckeye day (only better if socar wasn't killing clemson, but we can't have it all I guess)
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You guys do realize that in the settings you can change the number of posts per page. I only see 8 pages. Its not long at all.
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What if OSU, Auburn and FSU lose next week? Mizzu and Bama in the NCG?
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Fun night of football, overall. I am glad beyond words that the Buckeyes managed to escape with their win. Then to get the gift of #1 losing ..... was quite nice.  Man, in the top 15 today we had #1 (Bama) lose, #3 (OSU) almost lose, #6 (Clemson) lose, #12 (Oregon) barely beat their rival, #9 (Baylor) win by a FG against an unranked opponent, and #14 (Wisconsin) lose to an unranked opponent. Lots of upsets and almost upsets (so far) today. Glad we managed to escape being one of them. Oh, and #5 and #19 are currently tied.  Of course, we'll probably still hear all about how OSU shouldn't be in the Championship game if they win out. 
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Just my thoughts on the day.
That was a great game in Ann Arbor today. Credit Michigan for getting up for this game. Rivalry games sometimes bring out the best in everyone. Yes, OSU's defense looked bad, but some credit should be thrown in Michigan's direction, especially on Devan Gardner, who I have railed on all year.
The Alabama/Auburn game is the single craziest finish to a football game I've ever seen.
I guess in the case of Nick arguing for that extra second, be careful what you wish for...
I thought there was a ton of poor coaching decisions in that game. Both sides.
As far as sec honks and people who work at espn trying to make the case for Auburn jumping Ohio State.... Nope.
If Auburn were to jump Ohio State, it would kill everything great about college football. Every game matters. Losing deflates your season. The week to week thrill would be a joke.
They have a double digit loss, albeit on the road (LSU is overrated this year).
Ohio State won every game on their schedule. Anything else is nitpicking. They ran a AQ conference schedule. Sorry.
If Auburn was undefeated, I'd have no problem with them vaulting Ohio State. None at all.
By the way, a sports book rep at the Wynn Las Vegas was quoted as saying Ohio State would be a 3 point favorite over Auburn on a neutral field. I trust those guys a lot more than people like Mark May and Tim Brando who have painfully obvious agendas.
They're a better team than Auburn. I don't think the will pass up Ohio State if both teams win their conference championship games next week, but if they did, that would go against every reason college football is awesome.
The other thing is, I believe I read today that if FSU and OSU win their games next week, Ohio State will have a stronger SOS percentage. So there's also that.
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The one thing I worry about is Wisconsin's loss today. They were Ohio State's biggest win and their loss will hurt Ohio State especially in the voters eyes when they are comparing schedules.
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It hurts, but they will get a bump if they can beat MSU.
Looks like Mizzou is going to hang on. They will move up as well, depending on how far Alabama falls back.
I understand what Auburn went through, but I don't think you can just overlook a 2 touchdown loss.
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I think I've said this before, but Missouri's right tackle is pretty good. Granted, I'm a bit biased since I work with his mom, but the guy can play. I don't think he's coming out early though... Should be in next years draft.
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It is pretty simple right now. There are 5 teams still alive to play in the BCS title game.
FSU is in with a win.
OSU is also in with a win. The should Auburn pass OSU talk will be just that talk for ratings purposes. The more they can stir up controversity the better ratings their shows get.
If OSU or FSU lose next week the winner of Auburn vs Missouri will get the other spot.
If OSU nd FSU were to lose Alabama will be the team that will get back in. Oklahoma State and Michigan State will try to make their case but they will not get ahead of Alabama.
Wouldn't that be pretty cool to see the Iron Bowl play out again!!!! That is unless your an Ohio State, Florida State, Oklahoma State, or Michigan State.
The worst thing is for Florida State to get in and then have Winston get arrested and have a less than full strength Florida State play in the title game. The season has been so exciting it would be terrible to have that happen to the title game.
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I agree with that. auburn and osu are very similar. 2 teams that like to run the spread. It would be a joke if they got in over osu.
I thought saban made a few bonehead calls. not kicking a 29 yd field goal, and then kicking a 57 yd and 45 yd. He should've thrown a hail mary. once there was 7 seconds why did he call a timeout? the was at his own 35 or 40. I would've took a knee and went into ot. He had the better team for ot. Think he outsmarted himself too many times.
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It is pretty simple right now. There are 5 teams still alive to play in the BCS title game.
FSU is in with a win.
OSU is also in with a win. The should Auburn pass OSU talk will be just that talk for ratings purposes. The more they can stir up controversity the better ratings their shows get.
If OSU or FSU lose next week the winner of Auburn vs Missouri will get the other spot.
If OSU nd FSU were to lose Alabama will be the team that will get back in. Oklahoma State and Michigan State will try to make their case but they will not get ahead of Alabama.
Wouldn't that be pretty cool to see the Iron Bowl play out again!!!! That is unless your an Ohio State, Florida State, Oklahoma State, or Michigan State.
The worst thing is for Florida State to get in and then have Winston get arrested and have a less than full strength Florida State play in the title game. The season has been so exciting it would be terrible to have that happen to the title game.
IMHO, Alabama has no case even if FSU and OSU both lose their conference title games. You don't win your conference, you're just as unworthy as the previously mentioned two teams. It's not rocket science.
Anyway, here are my projected Top 4 teams in the polls:
1) Florida State
2) Ohio State
3) Auburn
4) Missouri
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Interesting little poll on ESPN.com ...
What does Ohio State need to do to deserve a spot in the BCS championship game?
39% - Just beat Michigan State
28% - Beat Michigan State soundly
33% - Don't deserve it regardless of Michigan St. game
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Like the rest of you guys, I think that was the greatest day of football I ever watched. So much drama. So many amazing plays. Fantastic finishes. Wow!! I think collegiate football is now better than the NFL in terms of watching the games.
I see the push is on for yet another team to vault past Ohio State. I have read/heard how various teams across the country were so much better than the Buckeyes all year. Clemson, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford [twice], Baylor, and now Auburn. It's funny how all these great teams that were so much better than Ohio State faltered while the Buckeyes just keep winning. At some point, people have to give a team credit for taking care of business.
There is also a lot of talk about strength of schedule. Tell me, how tough has Florida State's schedule been?
They have played:
Pitt
Nevada
Bethune--Cookman
Boston College
Maryland
Wake Forest
Syracuse
They have one quality win against Clemson. Well, Clemson was blown out by both Florida State and South Carolina. The Gamecocks have beat Clemson five straight times. So really, how difficult has Florida State's schedule been?
I think Ohio State has earned the right to play in the National Championship game. However, they must beat Michigan State and that is not going to be an easy game. Our defense has to really step it up and our offense will be facing the toughest defense on this year's schedule.
National Championship? I think our offense can score on anyone. I think they can score BIG on anyone. However, their opponent will light them up, as well. Should be a very entertaining game that has ratings soaring through the roof.
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Agreed. I watched both the OSU/MSU game and the 'Bama/Auburn game start-to-finish; the only time in a long while that I have watched 2 games (even NFL) back-to-back. I even caught a bit of the A&M game before I drifted off to la-la land and missed the rest of the game.
Very entertaining, amazing comebacks/turnarounds, and you're right...lots of high drama.
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No. I don't see any chance that Bama, without winning the SEC Championship, makes it into the Championship.
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Of course, we'll probably still hear all about how OSU shouldn't be in the Championship game if they win out.
You know that they have only one last game, the Big Ten Championship game, right?
I'll add, if Ohio State were in the National Championship and won a squeaker and the #3 team won their Bowl game in a blowout, there would be questions raised if the Buckeyes should be the legitimate champs or that the #3 team would have a claim to a share of the title.
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I'll add one more point....
The Big Ten desperately NEEDS Ohio State in this title game...and to win it. For the past five years or so media, journalists, and the like, have been down on the Big Ten regarding talent. If OSU can win it all against a team in a perceived "better" conference, it will do wonders for changing the perception of the conference as a whole.... every team will be elevated. Quite frankly, OSU is to blame mostly IMO for the fact that the Big 10 is perceived to be weaker/overrated than other conferences. They've lost big games convincingly (Florida, LSU) as the best team the Big 10 has to offer. This is a chance to remedy that perception and I hope they do.
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Without question, OSU honks... but that's probably just because I live in Ohio. This is gonna be a long month.
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I'm not taking MSU for granted, but if OSU wins the Big 10 and faces FSU, how would they stop Jameis Winston if Devin Gardner put up 450 yds on them? Was that a bad defensive gameplan, or a general lack of talent on D?
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Good question. I think it is a combination of both. Our defensive line is weak. Most RBs get through the LOS before contact. They are young and inexperienced. Our coverage is also weak. Roby is highly touted, but the guy plays w/a lot of cushion because he gets burned if he gets in their grill. Losing Bryant hurt. His back-ups are terrible. I really like Luke Fickell, but I think he'll be gone after this year. Urban Myer gave him a job out of loyalty, but I imagine the continued poor performances by the defense is driving Urban nuts. I wish we could keep Luke on the staff in some manner, but I think a change at DC is in order. 
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I heard on the radio yesterday that Fickell is actually co-defensive coordinator along with one of Meyer's guys. Fickell does make the defensive calls though, and he consistently dialed up the wrong schemes yesterday, imo. How many throwback screens can you fall for? Where was Shazier all day? I was expecting to see him in the UM backfield all day, but he was mostly neutralized. They better tighten it up for MSU if they want to play for a NC.
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Hopefully Luke finds a job as a Head Coach job and we don't need to fire him.
After seeing Roby play yesterday I'm not sure if the cushion he's currently allowing is needed. It seems like he's playing like Skrine used to, where he doesn't have the confidence in his speed that he should have.
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