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This part of your essay rates an A+.
would i be safe in ASSuming the entire essay grades out a C .... 
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Don't get me wrong GM. It's not "impossible" to get a LT in the later rounds,just VERY unlikely!
About as likely as me passing up free beer 
I look forward to the day, when the Browns are good enough for us to take gambles, because that means our roster won't have more holes than swiss cheese.
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Someone on the board admitted changing their minds. I'm going to faint *L* You're a better man than I
Hey, it's no problem. When I am wrong, I am wrong. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. I still won't mind trading down if somebody gives up the farm, but I really prefer that Thomas is still there and we pull the trigger.
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Daim...just clicking...
Do we really know what Charlie Frye or Derek Anderson are capable of?
Did our young QBs have good teachers (OC, QB coaches) able to teach QB basics/mechanics and teaching from an offensive playbook based on a proven/successful NFL caliber offense?
Did the franchise surround our young QBs with a complement of offensive linemen and offensive weapons that would protect and provide options that would relieve the pressure off of the QB position?
Has the franchise provided our QBs with sound, dependable receiving weapons?
I'm not going to go into detail as most know the honest answers to the questions above.
Do we know what Frye and Anderson are capable of?
To me, it does not make a whole lot of sense to spend our 1st round pick on a position that has not been supported enough by the franchise to even tell how good our present QBs on the roster can be.
Bringing in one OG is not my idea of fixing the 31st worst OLine in the NFL.
It's not really hard to figure out where Cleveland's major needs are on the offense...it's just a matter of franchise priorities.
But, if it takes getting another high priced 1st round QB beat up during the 2007 season, just to send the message to the current front office, that the #1 priority must be the offensive line...so be it.
What's another year of waiting for the Browns to focus on the offensive line?
This franchise will not be successful until the front office makes the offensive line the #1 priority. jmho, mac
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LOL..........nah man. If we don't take Joe or trade down for a load of picks, I hope we take BQ.
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How can he give you proof?
You start dropping names and those names stop dropping information.........
So I'm supposed to believe him? If someone else wrote something this bold you, Vers and the other "elites" would be all over them to provide a link or proof.
I guess it's a double standard I have to live with right? 
As REO put it...Heard from a freind who, heard from a friend who........... 
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It's up to you to believe him or not, regardless of proof.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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If I can interject, I've yet to see Vers post false information that was "insider" knowledge. In fact, we hear some of the same things. It's not like REO, in that some of us have direct "sources" (for lack of a better term). You can believe it or not. I will tell you that Maverick, Vers, OT, and myself have posted things we have heard from "inside sources" and they've been proven correct or made pulic later.
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Okay, I guess I can live with that. I have no idea who has "inside"sources. I also see that Vers ignored me, so I guess he feels I'm not worthy of an answer.  I respect his opinion very much, but when someone says they have "sources", I do feel I'm at least obliged to ask who or how. I guess I was wrong. A simple, "can't say" would suffice. I'm here for the very kind of info that comes from these "insiders", and appreciate it immensely. But now I feel as if I offended someone. Please forgive a low life like myself for having an inquiring mind. 
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GM, it grieves me to say, but right now it is so bad . . .("How bad is it?" . . .. Wait for it! GM, even our holes have holes in some spots, and the cheese is cheesy is well! I will pray for the Stripe to be healed and delivered! Amen from the Oranje & Brown Choir pulleeze! Browns time to get some soon!   
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I wasn't offended, and it would probably take more than that to offend Vers with all he's been called on here LOL. As OT stated, if we tell who is talking to us, they clam up very quickly. That's why I thought I'd let you know that there are a handful with real "sources". I always put in my posts with inside knowledge, take it or leave it for that very reason. As I said, the four of us I mentined have been dead on with insider info that came out later. I doubt anyone's ticked off at you. I was just trying to explain 
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I also see that Vers ignored me, so I guess he feels I'm not worthy of an answer. I respect his opinion very much,
I ignored you because of the way you asked. Take a look again and see if sounds respectful:
So I'm supposed to believe him? If someone else wrote something this bold you, Vers and the other "elites" would be all over them to provide a link or proof.
I guess it's a double standard I have to live with right?
As REO put it...Heard from a freind who, heard from a friend who...........
First, let me say that the comment about being part of the elites is ridiculous. I don't try and make friends on here. I get slammed as much as anyone. And I don't follow the crowd. I post my thoughts in the search for good football debate and could care less what people think of me.
Concerning how I know about Shaffer and Andruzzi: As I have already explained several times----I know---oops, make that knew---two people w/the Browns. One is gone. I NEVER ask any questions, but I hear some things when we talk. I haven't talked to anyone for a couple of months now, so I have no new news.
For awhile, I was trying to tip the readers on this board of things that were going on behind the scenes and what might be happening on the horizon. I know several people who appreciated that news. However, when the official board got really crazy, many new posters started posting more on here, and they gave me some grief about it. Then Daman, eotab, and mac basically said I was a liar. I don't take kindly to being called a liar. So, I quit posting the news I was hearing. And it's going to stay that way. The only time I will share things now is when I know for a fact someone is making things up and it might negatively affect another human being. Otherwise, I will just pm some people who did believe me w/new news when I hear it. The reason for posting the Shaffer/Andruzzi news now is that I had already shared that w/the board a couple of times in the past.
Now............whether you wanna believe any of that is up to you. People believe what they wanna believe and like things tied up in a pretty, neat little package, as I found out a couple of weeks ago when discussing how Savage has handled the QB situation and told people that what they heard about KH leaving here was not the truth.....and they simply did NOT want to hear it.
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And here is the big one............I know for a fact that Shaffer repeatedly asked Andruzzi for help. It happened on almost every pass play. Bro, that's huge. It compromised the rest of the line. It also didn't do much for things in the locker room. And while some may say that players don't need to get along....it's pretty important for the offensive line to be able to trust each other. Believe me.........Shaffer was a huge problem this year and it drives me nuts when people on this board say he is an average to above average LT. I know you ain't saying that, but others can interpret it that way.
How do you know this? I've never heard this except from you. You may be right, but prove it. I'm inclined to believe Andruzzi needed Shaffer's help.
Still, that is a bold statement, and I believe you owe us proof.
FWIW...
I can vouch for that and my info comes straight from the horse's mouth.
When Versatile posts about the Lockeroom issues, he's dead on guys. I've posted the same here before.
The OL sucked on the field, but the off-the-field performance (in every aspect) was terrible.
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Then Daman, eotab, and mac basically said I was a liar.
Vers...you can stop your bs right now, concerning me!
I never called you a liar.
If your gonna make a statement like that, you better have something in writing to back it up.
I will "debate" you....
I will "challenge" you...
Vers, there is a difference between being called a liar and being proven to be wrong about some subject via debate. Try not to confuse the two!
I do not have inside info like you claim to have, but I will say that I established my opinion of Shaffer's blocking ability long ago and I didn't need someone from the inside to tell me what my eyes could see on the field...Shaffer does not look to be our answer at LT.
Those of you that do have inside info...that's great and I hope you share with the rest of us.
I do not see this message board as a contest to see who knows more about football and it's not and ego thing with me either. I'm here to talk Browns and football and the more info, the better...  ....mac
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Appreciate the reply. As for being disrespectful, I thought you had thicker skin than that. Anyway, I had no idea of who has some inside info, but I highly appreciate any I can get. If I wouldn't have questioned you, I still would be blind on the matter. So again, thanks for the info and the replies from you, Coach, and Toad. Daddy always said when you want to know something ask, that's all I was doing.
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This might sound strange, but then again, you may think I always sound strange.  But, don't believe me just because I said so. It seems like there are a lot of people claiming to have inside sources lately. Some can be making things up. It might be best to see who gives information that comes true over the long haul, before you believe them.
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That's what I said earlier, too. You, OT, Mav, and myself have stated things that were later brought out in the media or confirmed by other sources. With our history, if anyone remembers back then LOL, there's no way we would back each other up on things we heard to make each other look good. 
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There are probably a handful of guys on here that do have some inside info. If you read long enough you can figure out who they are and who is full of . As for Vers I wouldn't believe a word of what that guy spews.
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