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If they can't move up and get Bridgewater at #1 and if Bortles is gone by the time they pick at #4, I pray they select Sammy Watkins at that #4 spot. At #26, grab the best available Guard. In the second round, take the best QB available. It's my opinion that after Bridgewater and Bortles, no QB is worth taking in the 1st round and we can fill other despearte needs instead. There should be some decent QBs still on the board when they pick in the 2nd round. I also wouldn't mind taking a CB in the 2nd round and Mettenberger in the 3rd if he's still there. I think he's better than a lot of others do.

I agree on Bridgewater and Bortles being the only two legit fQBs in this class, but with all our picks, we HAVE TO find a way to get one of them. Everything else would be a huge letdown for me.

I always stated 3-0 but when talking specifically about Hoyer I am certain to state he got hurt in the first quarter of game 3...but just to let you know he was a big part in the frame of mind of the team in their preparation and their game day attitude which did have a part in the win. After his injury I can assume the team practiced with a little different attitude and expectation with Weeden n Campbell.

Also not having the same system would that put a damper in the short success he had? As little as we do know now we also know that he will not be in that system so does that make those 2 game + success less in the equation???

I would hope we can start with him - if the New kid is showing great strides and HOyer is just average to mediocre...then the New kid takes over. Maybe in a similar case like Alex Smith...as long as he is winning and doing well keep him in but as soon as their is a downfall in his game or injury the new kid is waiting to take over.

JMHO right now we don't even have a HC so hard to look into the future that much.

my post in the other thread is probably more appropriate here:



I just watched this video on Bridgewater.

Here are my concerns;

1. He has a 3/4 throwing motion. sometimes he will throw Stafford Side Arm
2. his footwork is terribly inconsistent (there are throws he makes where he looks like a pitcher)
3. he throws off center every time
4. He has a wonky short arm release at the end of his throwing motion
5. He doesn't complete his throwing motion most of the time on his mid to long range throws and tends to stand taller on these throws. (leads to inaccurate throws in the NFL mostly underthrown balls)
6. His short 5-10 yard slant throws are over exaggerated and his feet are usually spread further apart and his body sinks further into the ground. He looks like a SS make a throw to first base.
7. him running all over the field and his body slinging throwing motions reminds me so much of Colt McCoy with a bigger arm.

8. He has a ton of time in the pocket. I didn't see many quality throws in that 2-3 second range

Once you start messing with footwork/throwing motion it will take someone a year to get comfortable with the new motion. While he is learning his new style... his confidence will take a beating.

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/3373/chalk-and-shock-in-kipers-first-mock

Kiper mock 1.0 reaction: Browns

Mel Kiper's first mock draft goes chalk for the Cleveland Browns' first pick in the first round, and shock for the second.

The first pick, fourth overall, was predictable. Kiper has the Browns taking quarterback Blake Bortles of Central Florida. He's a big, strong-armed guy who came out of nowhere this past season to earn first-round status. In Kiper's draft, Johnny Manziel is off the board when the Browns pick, but Kiper has the Browns favoring Bortles over Teddy Bridgewater of Louisville.

Bortles makes sense because of his size and arm strength, and he can develop while someone else -- Brian Hoyer? -- plays. That might be a good thing if he is not forced into the lineup too early.

The second first-round pick, which came from the Colts for Trent Richardson, is a bit of a shock, but should make the locals happy. Kiper has the Browns taking Ohio State running back Carlos Hyde.

This is a shock because the Browns traded a first-round running back to get a first-round pick that Kiper then has them using on a running back.

Maybe it's a Cleveland thing.

Hyde is a big, strong, powerful runner who would seem to be a very good NFL prospect. He would make the Browns a better team.

But the Browns' front office seems to buy into the new thinking that does not favor taking running backs high. Not one running back was selected in the first round of last year's draft.

It will be interesting to see if Kiper's thinking is right.

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i pray to god he isn't right, if we pick bortles over teddy i'm going to throw up.

Many things will change in the coming weeks. Doing mock drafts right now is futile and only an attempt to get clicks from the fans of teams that are no longer involved in the playoffs. It makes zero sense to predict the draft pre-combine, pre-college all-star games, pre-free agency, pre-pro days, etc.

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Many things will change in the coming weeks. Doing mock drafts right now is futile

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100% agreed, it's a quick easy artical, to some degree a mindless artical, so many will be written nobody will remember what was written bye May.

it's still fun, though

I agree that it is fun, I just do not like when people take what Kiper (or anyone else) says seriously.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?tag=mockdraft

the guy on the right use to be a scout for us.

interesting video to watch.

So Kiper has Bridgewater still on the board and us taking Bortles anyway... then taking a running back in the first round... I'll just look out of my window and look for the mushroom cloud over Ohio if either of those things happen.

If he put his Mock the way he thought it'd go in May now...

Why would anyone need to check it over and over, as he ya know, changes it 5 or 6 times until then...

All about them page clicks...

Heck, Skip Bayless has made a career on yelling the opposite opinion of everyone else... It makes people talk about you, watch you, etc

Yup, this.

Heck, if it were me. My first mock draft would be strictly 'what would cause the biggest stir' as opposed to 'what I think will/should happen'. To a point anyway. It still has to be at least conceivable.

I will say looking at the Texans that the last time they had the #1 overall pick they ended up going with Mario Williams when everyone and their uncle thought Reggie Bush would be the #1 overall pick...

I wouldn't be surprised if they took Clowney... but I just can't imagine them not taking a QB when they have such a need there and have JJ Watt as a DE right now. I still can't get over all the people saying they are going to take Manziel... I dunno... I just see Birdgewater being the pick....

Your evaluations are as far off as any poster I have ever seen, yet you speak as the voice of authority. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Bortles doesn't have a weak arm, but his arm is not that strong. People often equate physical stature to arm strength. They don't always match up.

well, hypothetically speaking, you think his arm is strong enough come late november/december in cleveland?


i haven't paid too much attention to bortles except the bowl game, but from some posters, it seems like has everything a big QB needs, except the arm.

Again..............I think it comes down to two main things:

1. Football intelligence. Teddy is by far and away the smartest qb. He reads it pre-snap, he picks up delayed blitzes, he reads coverages, he looks off safeties. Manziel comes in second and Bortles third.

2. Accuracy. Teddy is the most accurate overall, but his deep ball accuracy is lacking. That surprises me because it is easier to throw a deep ball than a dig or an out. Maziel and Bortles are about equal here. Bortles misses high too often and Manziel's poor footwork leads to some inaccurate throws.

Bortles can fire the ball when he wants to but he really winds into it when he does. Reminds me of the reports of browns players laughing at Brady Quinn throwing lasers against the padded walls of the practice facility. He made a couple strong throws showing that vs South Florida. He's got a few things lacking in his game but arm strength isn't one of my top 3 concerns for him.