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1- # 4 Sammy Watkins WR Clemson

1 - # 26 C.J. Mosley ILB Alabama

2 - # 35 Jason Verrett CB

3 - # 71 Joel Bitonio G / OT Nevada

3 - # 83 Jared Abbrederis WR Wisconsin

4 - # 102 Arron Murray QB Georgia

4- # 123 Dri Archer RB / WR Kent St.

5 - # 133 Bryan Stork C Flordia St.

6 - # 164 Robert Lester S Alabama

7- # 195 Micheal Sam DE Missouri




I uh, would go crazy if this draft happens. I don't love the idea of Watkins at 4, but I wouldn't be mad either. Would be a nice piece to go alongside JG. Love Jared Abbrederris and Dri Archer too. Imagine the speed all over the field we could have.

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Round 1 Pick 4: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (A-)




The more I read, the more I'm in agreement with the sports writing gurus around the country who are saying that Johnny Football has bust written all over him. The "Tim Tebow" of the class of 2014.

I sure hope we don't draft him.


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Cleveland trades # 26 & # 35 to SF for # 30, # 56 & # 61
We will use our picks on draft day to move around, but for today......

#4 Sammy Watkins (WR)
#30 Derek Carr (QB)
#56 Brandon Thomas (G)
#61 Keith McGill (CB)
#71 Stanley Jean-Baptiste (CB)
#83 Chris Borland (MLB)
#102 Weston Richburg (C)
#123 Terrance West (RB)
#133 Colt Lyerla (TE)
#164 Max Bullough (MLB)
#195 Jay Prosch (FB)

I took a flyer on Lyerla, bit of a head case, but the kid has talent.
Thxs

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Not sure this has been posted yet, but it's a Bucky Brooks Mock where no QB is taking in the first round...,

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/bucky-brooks/195603


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'Cleveland Browns' Mike Pettine praises Sammy Watkins and wouldn't be 'all that upset' to draft Jadeveon Clowney at No. 4'

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/03/cleveland_browns_mike_pettine_7.html

By Mary Kay Cabot, Northeast Ohio Media Group
on March 25, 2014 at 7:14 PM, updated March 26, 2014 at 7:22 AM

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Browns coach Mike Pettine will focus on the top quarterbacks in the draft for the next month or so, but made it clear Tuesday that receiver Sammy Watkins, defensive end Jadeveon Clowney and other top prospects are also on his radar at No. 4.

"(Sammy Watkins) is an extremely explosive athlete,'' Pettine said at the NFL Annual Meeting AFC coaches breakfast. "(He's a) playmaker. He plays the wide receiver position violently, which is something you don't often see.

"To me what jumps off the tape is his passion. He loves football. We interviewed him in Indianapolis and you can tell he absolutely loves the game. He's a guy that I think you want to find a variety of ways to get the ball in his hands because he's special.''

If the Browns pass on a quarterback at No. 4, they can pair Watkins with Josh Gordon and transform their offense. In that scenario, they might be able to come back at No. 26 and land Fresno State quarterback Derek Carr -- or package their No. 26 and No. 35 picks to move up to take Carr.

Or, Pettine could "jump on the table'' for an explosive pass-rusher such as Clowney, who had 13 sacks in 2012, but tailed off to three in 2013.

“Freakish athlete,'' said Pettine. "I think he could take over a game. I think he could change a game. He’s proven that. I had good interaction with him in Indianapolis. As a defensive head coach, I don’t know if I’d be all that upset to turn the card in on Clowney with the fourth pick.”

Pettine isn't fazed by the Clowney's lack of sacks last season or concerns over his work ethic.

"He's shown (the pass-rush ability),'' Pettine said. "I think there were a lot of circumstances. People talked to maybe a maturity thing. …I think if you’re strong and assertive as a coach that you can get that guy to be more focused and get him to be much more consistent. So if you can take a Clowney and get him to play, to get him to get that motor humming and go hard every play, then you’ve got a guy that can absolutely dominate a game.”

Pettine also praised University of Buffalo pass-rushing linebacker Khalil Mack, whose Pro Day he attended earlier this month. Mack, who torched Ohio State for nine tackles, 2.5 sacks and an interception return for a touchdown, will also be in play for the Browns at No. 4. At Buffalo, he set an NCAA record with 16 forced fumbles and is tied in tackles for a loss with 75.

"(Mack's an) explosive athlete,'' said Pettine. "He's a guy that tested extremely well, but he's not a tester. He's not a combine warrior. He's a guy that the tape backs it up. He can play on the ball, he can play off the ball, he plays violently and he's played some of his better games against better competition. You worry about a guy that's played in what's perceived to be a lesser conference. You worry about him kind of dominating his own . . . but he played real well against Ohio State.''

Pettine said he'd move Mack around in the same way he did last year with Buffalo's Mario Williams, who finished fourth in the NFL 13 sacks.

"What we did with Mario in Buffalo, he didn't line as up as the left defensive end all the time,'' said Pettine. "He was on the left, he was on the right, he was standing up, he was inside as the three, he was on the nose sometimes. We actually stood him up a couple times, so I think when you have a special guy like that, his home base will be outside, but we'll look to move him all around to take advantage of his ability.''

The Browns will also have to do their homework on Auburn offensive tackle Greg Robinson, a sure top-10 pick.

"Outstanding tackle,'' Pettine said. "He's a player that has all the measurables. The nice thing that you like about him is the toughness. He's a finisher. He's going to knock you down and he's not going to help you up. I know he's played (guard). If you look at (former Raven) Jonathan Ogden, he was a guard his first year in the NFL and then he ended up transitioning out to tackle. A lot of people don't realize that.

"But when you get to the situation where you're looking for the best player available, that name pops up. (Even if you) have Joe Thomas on the roster at left tackle, you don't want to say we're not going to take him because we have one. (If) you take a great linemen, especially one that's played other spots, you can put him on the right, you can put him at guard.''

One thing's for certain: The Browns will have plenty of choices at No. 4.




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Prisco tends to throw darts with a blindfold on when writing some articles, so just take that under consideration. Here is his newest mock:

New Prisco Mock
March 26, 2014 3:46 pm CT

This is Mock Draft 6.0.

It's the first one without Johnny Manziel in the first round. I just think there's a chance he falls out of it.

This mock includes two trades. One has the Atlanta Falcons trading up from the sixth spot to the No. 2 spot to get South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney.

The other trade comes late with Cleveland trading with Arizona to move up to get Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, who I have falling down into the No. 20 spot.

That's a shakeup for sure.

Only two months to go, right?

1. Houston Texans -- Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida: There are more league people believing this now more than ever.

2. Atlanta Falcons (Trade with St. Louis): Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina: They make the leap ahead of Jacksonville to get Clowney.

3. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo: After Clowney goes, they stay put and take Mack to amp up their pass rush.

4. Cleveland Browns -- Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson: Can you imagine Watkins and Josh Gordon together?

5. Oakland Raiders -- Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State: They are too linked to him for me not to put him here.

6. St. Louis Rams (From Falcons) -- Greg Robinson, T, Auburn: He will give them a top tier tackle for a long time.

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M: With Mike Williams in trouble, they need another threat outside.

8. Minnesota Vikings -- Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State: New coach Mike Zimmer will want to upgrade the corner spot. Dennard can help.

9. Buffalo Bills -- Jake Matthews, T, Texas A&M: He's too good a player to fall out of the top 10.

10. Detroit Lions -- Taylor Lewan, T, Michigan: They take the local kid to improve their front.

11. Tennessee Titans -- Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA: The move to more 3-4 looks means they need an outside rusher.

12. New York Giants -- Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh: I will keep him here for now after they lost Linval Joseph.

13. St. Louis Rams -- Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama: He would give them a lot of range on the back end.

14. Chicago Bears -- Tim Jernigan, DT, Florida State: They have to get better up front. They've added some bodies, but not enough.

15. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech: He is a player teams are saying is rising up a lot of boards. Ike Taylor isn't a kid anymore.

16. Dallas Cowboys -- Zack Martin, G-T, Notre Dame: This would make their offensive line the strong point of the team after having so many problems.

17. Baltimore Ravens -- Ra'Shede Hegeman, DE, Minnesota: They lost Arthur Jones, so they take a bigger replacement.

18. New York Jets -- Odell Beckham, Jr., WR, LSU: They have to get some speed outside for that offense.

19. Miami Dolphins -- C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama: They spent big on linebackers last year and didn't get much bang for their buck. Mosley could help in a big way.

20. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis through Arizona), Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville: They wait, and when he falls, they move up to get him.

21. Green Bay Packers -- Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina: Yes, he has to work out better. But there is a ton of talent.

22. Philadelphia Eagles -- Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville: Did you watch their safeties last season? He is a thumper in the run game to go with Malcolm Jenkins.

23. Kansas City Chiefs -- Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon: He can fly and would help the offense in a big way.

24. Cincinnati Bengals -- Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State: They take the local kid to help their aging corner situation.

25. San Diego Chargers -- Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State: They have to get better outside. Gilbert is a nice man-cover player.

26. Arizona (From Indianapolis through Cleveland): DeMarcus Lawrence, OLB, Boise State: Here's another kid scouts are starting to really like.

27. New Orleans Saints -- Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn: They have to get somebody who can come off the edge.

28. Carolina Panthers -- Cyrus Kouandijo, T, Alabama: They have to get a left tackle with the retirement of Jordan Gross.

29. New England Patriots -- Louis Nix, NT, Notre Dame: It just makes too much sense with the uncertainty with Vince Wilfork.

30. San Francisco 49ers -- Marqise Lee, WR, USC: They need help outside and Lee has a chance to be special.

31. Denver Broncos -- Ryan Shazier, LB Ohio State: There is a need for speed and they have to get faster.

32. Seattle Seahawks -- Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame: Until they add a veteran player up front, I will keep him here.


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The vikings are going to pass on a QB? Ok

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Derek Carr going fifth, Teddy dropping to 20 and Johnny Football falling out of the first round?

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Just saw this quote on cbssports:

But what about drafting TWO quarterbacks?

Browns coach Mike Pettine told reporters at the owners' meetings, via the Cleveland Plain Dealer, that the team actually could take a pair of signal-callers this year.


FINALLY! That's what I've been talking about for months. And we could two quality big school QBs without burning our two first round picks. My dream draft:

BIG O-lineman (Robinson or Lewan)
WR (Mike Evans or Kelvin Benjamin)
RB (Carlos Hyde)
2 QB's (McCarron, Mettenberger, maybe Logan Thomas)
CB's


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Derek Carr going fifth, Teddy dropping to 20 and Johnny Football falling out of the first round?




By this mock we could end up with Watkins, Bridgewater and Manziel! lol I would take that in a heartbeat.

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Talk about a dream come true.

You would have to peel me off the ceiling.

I would walk to the home games from Georgia.

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Finally able to login! Longtime poster on the old browns board.

Just saw this quote on cbssports:

But what about drafting TWO quarterbacks?

Browns coach Mike Pettine told reporters at the owners' meetings, via the Cleveland Plain Dealer, that the team actually could take a pair of signal-callers this year.


FINALLY! That's what I've been talking about for months. And we could two quality big school QBs without burning our two first round picks. My dream draft:

BIG O-lineman (Robinson or Lewan)
WR (Mike Evans or Kelvin Benjamin)
RB (Carlos Hyde)
2 QB's (McCarron, Mettenberger, maybe Logan Thomas)
CB's




I read the same thing in the Plain Dealer about possibly drafting two QB... Interesting!

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My first ever mock...

4 WR SAMMY WATKINS - CLEMSON
26 ILB C.J. MOSLEY - ALABAMA
35 QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO - EASTERN ILLINOIS
71 CB STANLEY JEAN-BAPTISTE - NEBRASKA
83 G ANTHONY STEEN - ALABAMA
106 S AHMAD DIXON - BAYLOR
127 QB A.J. MCCARRON - ALABAMA
145 WR ROB HERRON - WYOMING
180 CB ANTONE EXUM - VIRGINIA TECH
218 OT MATT PATCHAN - BOSTON COLLEGE

Somebody grade me.

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and a second just for fun:

4 QB BLAKE BORTLES - UCF
26 ILB C.J. MOSLEY - ALABAMA
35 WR MIKE EVANS - TEXAS A&M
71 RB CARLOS HYDE - OHIO STATE
83 WR JORDAN MATTHEWS - VANDERBILT
106 G AUSTIN WENTWORTH - FRESNO STATE
127 OT JAMES HURST - NORTH CAROLINA
145 CB EJ GAINES - MISSOURI
180 CB AARON COLVIN - OKLAHOMA
218 QB JEFF MATTHEWS - CORNELL

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My first ever mock...

4 WR SAMMY WATKINS - CLEMSON
26 ILB C.J. MOSLEY - ALABAMA
35 QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO - EASTERN ILLINOIS
71 CB STANLEY JEAN-BAPTISTE - NEBRASKA
83 G ANTHONY STEEN - ALABAMA
106 S AHMAD DIXON - BAYLOR
127 QB A.J. MCCARRON - ALABAMA
145 WR ROB HERRON - WYOMING
180 CB ANTONE EXUM - VIRGINIA TECH
218 OT MATT PATCHAN - BOSTON COLLEGE

Somebody grade me.




I like it, except somewhere in there you have to get a FB...no one is talking about FB and Shanny needs one for his offense. I think Exum is probably a round late..but overall, if they fell that way I wouldn't be disappointed.

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My first ever mock...

4 WR SAMMY WATKINS - CLEMSON
26 ILB C.J. MOSLEY - ALABAMA
35 QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO - EASTERN ILLINOIS
71 CB STANLEY JEAN-BAPTISTE - NEBRASKA
83 G ANTHONY STEEN - ALABAMA
106 S AHMAD DIXON - BAYLOR
127 QB A.J. MCCARRON - ALABAMA
145 WR ROB HERRON - WYOMING
180 CB ANTONE EXUM - VIRGINIA TECH
218 OT MATT PATCHAN - BOSTON COLLEGE

Somebody grade me.




I like it, except somewhere in there you have to get a FB...no one is talking about FB and Shanny needs one for his offense. I think Exum is probably a round late..but overall, if they fell that way I wouldn't be disappointed.




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and a second just for fun:

4 QB BLAKE BORTLES - UCF
26 ILB C.J. MOSLEY - ALABAMA
35 WR MIKE EVANS - TEXAS A&M
71 RB CARLOS HYDE - OHIO STATE
83 WR JORDAN MATTHEWS - VANDERBILT
106 G AUSTIN WENTWORTH - FRESNO STATE
127 OT JAMES HURST - NORTH CAROLINA
145 CB EJ GAINES - MISSOURI
180 CB AARON COLVIN - OKLAHOMA
218 QB JEFF MATTHEWS - CORNELL





If we got Evans in the 2nd and Matthews in the 3rd I would do many, many illegal and/or immoral things.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I really like the top part of this one:

4 - WR SAMMY WATKINS
26 - QB JOHNNY MANZIEL
35 - WR BRANDON COOKS
71 - RB CARLOS HYDE
83 - CB STANLEY JEAN-BAPTISTE
106 - ILB JORDAN ZUMWALT
127 - S VINNIE SUNSERI
145 - G DAKOTA DOZIER
180 - CB AARON COLVIN
218 - QB AARON MURRAY

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Hey guys...I was watching some videos of Jordan Matthews Vandy WR he could be our expected pick in round 2 if WR isn't yet selected... Like How he runs good routes has nice sure hands...supposedly pro ready...but am the only one who sees Robiske when I watch him? He seems to have a problem gaining separation...always seems to have a defender draped over him...even not so good ones...despite running a great 40...he seems to have issues gaining separation...I think Brian Robiske ran a great 40 too...perhaps I'm just paranoid

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I really like the top part of this one:

4 - WR SAMMY WATKINS
26 - QB JOHNNY MANZIEL
35 - WR BRANDON COOKS
71 - RB CARLOS HYDE
83 - CB STANLEY JEAN-BAPTISTE
106 - ILB JORDAN ZUMWALT
127 - S VINNIE SUNSERI
145 - G DAKOTA DOZIER
180 - CB AARON COLVIN
218 - QB AARON MURRAY




Take that, but instead of picking at #4, find a way to drop back to like 8-13 and take Evans while picking up another 2nd rounder in the process and grab an ILB or OG with that pick.


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4. Teddy Bridgewater
26. Johnny Manziel
35. AJ McCarron
71. Zach Mettenberger
83. Aaron Murray
106. Jimmy Garoppolo
127. David Fales
145. Tajh Boyd
180. Kenny Guiton
218. Bryn Renner


That might seriously be my draft if I ran the Browns. One of them will work out, right?



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4. Teddy Bridgewater
26. Johnny Manziel
35. AJ McCarron
71. Zach Mettenberger
83. Aaron Murray
106. Jimmy Garoppolo
127. David Fales
145. Tajh Boyd
180. Kenny Guiton
218. Bryn Renner


That might seriously be my draft if I ran the Browns. One of them will work out, right?




We're Cleveland.... there would be a rash of injuries and busts and guys just being projects, and we'd be reduced to signing Testaverde by Week 12.


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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4. Teddy Bridgewater
26. Johnny Manziel
35. AJ McCarron
71. Zach Mettenberger
83. Aaron Murray
106. Jimmy Garoppolo
127. David Fales
145. Tajh Boyd
180. Kenny Guiton
218. Bryn Renner


That might seriously be my draft if I ran the Browns. One of them will work out, right?




We're Cleveland.... there would be a rash of injuries and busts and guys just being projects, and we'd be reduced to signing Brady Quinn, Charlie Frye, and Colt McCoy by Week 12.




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Hey guys...I was watching some videos of Jordan Matthews Vandy WR he could be our expected pick in round 2 if WR isn't yet selected... Like How he runs good routes has nice sure hands...supposedly pro ready...but am the only one who sees Robiske when I watch him? He seems to have a problem gaining separation...always seems to have a defender draped over him...even not so good ones...despite running a great 40...he seems to have issues gaining separation...I think Brian Robiske ran a great 40 too...perhaps I'm just paranoid




I do think you raise some legitimate concerns. What videos were you watching? WR is very deep, as you well know. If we aren't picking one in the first round I like Moncrief in round three if he's on the board when we pick. I'm also trying to figure out why this Tracy Moore kid is projected at round 7 or UDFA. From what little I've seen he's a top 100 talent.

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I really like DaVante Adams Fresno St at the #26 or #35 pick then La'Damien Washington Wr Missouri round 6 or 7


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26. Johnny Manziel
35. AJ McCarron
71. Zach Mettenberger
83. Aaron Murray
106. Jimmy Garoppolo
127. David Fales
145. Tajh Boyd
180. Kenny Guiton
218. Bryn Renner


That might seriously be my draft if I ran the Browns. One of them will work out, right?




Well, I like Mettenberger, Murray, and Fales. I also like some of what Renner can do. Kenny Guiton wouldn't be bad, but I know there would be so much of a call for the Browns to do the RG3 type of offense (Shanahan was there) with him.

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I think the Shanahan-RGIII thing is overblown. My guess is that getting RGIII was strictly on the Redskins owner, Dan Snyder. Shanahan was merely doing the best he could to tailor his offense to RGIII's skill set, which is mobility.


I do not see us pursuing specifically a mobile type QB simply because Shanny has history with RGIII.


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I think the Shanahan-RGIII thing is overblown. My guess is that getting RGIII was strictly on the Redskins owner, Dan Snyder. Shanahan was merely doing the best he could to tailor his offense to RGIII's skill set, which is mobility.


I do not see us pursuing specifically a mobile type QB simply because Shanny has history with RGIII.




Oh, I agree about RG3 and Dan Snyder. Just the same, Shanahan was the OC in Washington for RG3's first two seasons.

I don't think that even if the Browns ended up with Guiton that he would do that, just that portion of Browns fans would expect it.

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I think that with whichever QB we get, we can expect to see Shanny tailor an offense to fit the guy's abilities.

Who we take will probably be shaped mostly by Pettine and Farmer, with input from Shanny and the QB coach (my guess).


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I would have to guess that Shanny would have the most input since he will be responsible for getting the new QB ready to play. JMHO


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ote]I really like the top part of this one:

4 - WR SAMMY WATKINS
26 - QB JOHNNY MANZIEL
35 - WR BRANDON COOKS
71 - RB CARLOS HYDE
83 - CB STANLEY JEAN-BAPTISTE
106 - ILB JORDAN ZUMWALT
127 - S VINNIE SUNSERI
145 - G DAKOTA DOZIER
180 - CB AARON COLVIN
218 - QB AARON MURRAY


that would be one hell of a draft...I've been mentioning of Brandon Cooks being special prior to his combine and buzz...I'm praying hell be there for our selection in round 2...but expect a team to snatch him in late round 1...Stanley Jean would give our corners finally some size and toughness... Specially length...Aaron Murray would be a nice steal that late...same with Colvin...both coming off injury

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Hey guys...I was watching some videos of Jordan Matthews Vandy WR he could be our expected pick in round 2 if WR isn't yet selected... Like How he runs good routes has nice sure hands...supposedly pro ready...but am the only one who sees Robiske when I watch him? He seems to have a problem gaining separation...always seems to have a defender draped over him...even not so good ones...despite running a great 40...he seems to have issues gaining separation...I think Brian Robiske ran a great 40 too...perhaps I'm just paranoid




I do think you raise some legitimate concerns. What videos were you watching? WR is very deep, as you well know. If we aren't picking one in the first round I like Moncrief in round three if he's on the board when we pick. I'm also trying to figure out why this Tracy Moore kid is projected at round 7 or UDFA. From what little I've seen he's a top 100 talent.


Hey Guard...draft season is my favorite season...and I usually do pretty well predicting surprises...the formula I usually have for WRs is wide receivers at 6'0 blazing speed very well separating skills very good hands plucking outside of body...and ability to put up huge YAC...Ive done well the past 2 years with Chris Givens and Kenny Stills...now when watching Matthews (granted its YouTube clips) I don't see much or any elusiveness or suddenness..he doesn't play to his combine 40 speed...and like I said most of his plays he has someone draped over or near him...I just wonder what his success rate would be when NFL corners are even closer in him...then I was like omg I kind of see Robiskie when I watch him...some of the same issues yielding to the same frame...But I do love Matthews effort and has a supposedly strong work ethic..to any bucks fans I could be wrong but wasn't Robiskies effort and ethic supposedly good in college? I know in the NFL he had major issues...I'm just kind of assuming our Browns may go QB, Online, WR...and trying to set the WR I like Matthews a lot...then started thinking Robo for some reason lol I could be way off...

Speaking of Tracey Moore..the guy plays a lot like Greg Little...but with actually hands plays strong and seems to love contact and to run over defenders...has a similar build as well...I remember when we drafted Little I said he had the potential to me an Eric Moulds type of wide out...then we discovered Greg Little had gloves that must have been dipped in motor oil...because he has some of the most awful hands...Tracey Moore wouldn't be a bad pick...would add some toughness to our WR Core...even if he is at worst practice squad material

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By coincidence I found this article tonight that does a very good job of describing, in general, the traits that make a good wide receiver. One of the things I learned from reading it was how the receivers hands should work in tandem when preparing for the catch. It sounds simple but apparently there is preferred technique that good wide outs should display.

The other insight this write up provides is how to the best receivers execute separation. It seems to be a combination of body control, in terms of sinking the hips when getting in and out of breaks on routes, patience and timing. When I look at Mathews again I'll be sure to keep this in mind.

A lot of intricacies of the position are covered. Read and enjoy

What to look for in a WR

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