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Well it seems things changed quickly: Quote:
Source tells @foxsports that Kyle Shanahan is #browns new offensive coordinator
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That's cool. He seems like a creative guy, with a strong coaching pedigree.
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Wow! So cool I think...the media was laughing at us saying he didn't want anything to do with us. We might have picked up the best of the bunch including other hires. Time for Kyle to spread his wings and give us a combo of what he learned from Dad, n Kubiac along with his own spin.
Also so much for the NFL not wanting anyone to make any news before the Super Bowl...so I guess that assumption can be thrown out.
I love the hire  I like the Loggains kid as the QB Coach! and we got our OL Coach as well.
Great - time to put this all together tie up the loose ends and get WORKING!
Oh take maybe a week or two off then Work Hard 
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great news.
what spot do we still have left to fill?
tradition can only carry you so far, then you have to start winning again.
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After a bad ending in Washington, Kyle Shanahan has landed on his feet.
The Browns have hired Shanahan as their offensive coordinator, Alex Marvez of FOX Sports reports.
Shanahan spent the last four seasons in Washington as offensive cooridnator under his dad, Mike Shanahan. Prior to that he spent two seasons as offesnive coordinator in Houston and was previously receivers coach and quarterbacks coach with the Texans.
In Cleveland, the big question is less about the kind of offense Shanahan will run than about whether they can find the right quarterback to run it. The most likely scenario is that they’ll use their first-round draft pick on a quarterback of the future, and hope he turns out to be better than their last first-round quarterback, Brandon Weeden.
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what spot do we still have left to fill?
I believe it is just the wide receiver coach.
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From what I understand Kyle Shanahan was very blunt and honest in his interview. Turned the Browns off. A few days later, they reconsidered.
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great whoever it is I hope he stresses catching the ball. 
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I wonder if his interview really went as bad as was let on. Coulda been leaked out on purpose I suppose.
Oh well. Welcome aboard, Kyle!
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I wonder what this portends regarding which QB we target? How will Shanahan's experiences with Robert Griffin III affect his preference going forward with a guy like Manziel (who is RG3 Lite, imo). Negatively, would be my guess.
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Negatively, would be my guess.
I hope so. I told my wife if the Browns draft Manziel, I will quit watching football. There's something about him I don't like... I just don't want to have to stay true to my word. 
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Good Hire. Kyle wants a head coaching job. He doesn't have to make the playoffs like in Washington in order to be successful. He simply needs to make Browns a contender.
Arguments I am hearing is he won't get along with Johnny Football. Whoever the QB drafted Kyle needs to make work. Quicker he does quicker he becomes a HC. He also erases the negative applied with him and RG iii.
Kyle is hungry could make a nice setup for the Browns.
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From what I understand Kyle Shanahan was very blunt and honest in his interview. Turned the Browns off. A few days later, they reconsidered.
Ian Rapoport, Twitter
I made reference to this on another thread. I don't think Rapoport and Lombardi are best of buds. During the coaching hire every time Ian report something a few minutes later Mary Kay posted different. It appeared Mike was using Mary Kay. I wish I had proof!
Ian reported things were not good. Browns hire Kyle.
I read Kyle is on vacation. Things may have already been in place since Wednesday. This may explain Pettine's hires of sub-coaches.
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Shanny lite will get a HC gig someday. Hopefully this Loggains will learn plenty and step right in when that happens.
Contained excitement for our young staff. Ever hopeful...
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Just clicking As of 1 and a half hours ago, it was NOT official http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...t_river_defaultAlthough it appears likely
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Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
Typical for her. If you asked her which way was up, she'd look up, then down and point at the floor and exclaim, "There!"
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I wonder what this portends regarding which QB we target? How will Shanahan's experiences with Robert Griffin III affect his preference going forward with a guy like Manziel (who is RG3 Lite, imo). Negatively, would be my guess.
A QB with good mobility and a good arm.
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Typical for her. If you asked her which way was up, she'd look up, then down and point at the floor and exclaim, "There!"
Well, the title of this thread leads one to believe it's a done deal and yet, nothing verifies that.
It used to be that when a title like that showed up here, there was a link to a REAL STORY where it was verified.
It may be true, in fact I'd bet it is. It's just not verified yet. And IMO, shouldn't be posted as fact yet.
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I am good w/this hire. Man, Rappaport has been way off on many things. Isn't he the guy who said Ben wanted out of Pittsburgh? And he was off about the McDaniel's situation, as well. He seems to be getting a lot of egg on his face lately. The good thing about Shanahan is that he can adapt his scheme to fit the talent. I like that. Pettine has proven to do the same thing on the defensive side of the ball. Now, all we need is to draft either Teddy or Johnny Football and we should have a pretty good future.
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Glad we have Pat Shurmer 2.0
Can't wait to see Flash go bad like Garcon did.
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It used to be that when a title like that showed up here, there was a link to a REAL STORY where it was verified.
And it used to be that people used candles rather than electricity when they wanted to see. They rode horses or walked instead of driving a car when they wanted to travel. They washed clothes by hand rather than use a washing machine.
What's your point?
It's time to move forward.
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ESPN.com
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So what you're saying is ..... that there might have been a link to a real story somewhere? 
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Can't wait to see Flash go bad like Garcon did.
Pierre Garcon led the league in receptions in 2013 and had 1,346 yards.
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Care to explain your weak, at best, arguement?
Garcon was the league leader in targets this year. Andre Johnson was the best WR in football under Kyle Shanahan.
Personally, Im more excited about the ZBS and finding a good running game. Gordon and Cameron will thrive in this system. And if he leaves, Loggains is on the staff to take over.
Easily the best guy we could have gotten. Im thrilled
you had a good run Hank.
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Yeah, I didn't get the Garcon comment either.
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wow I had no idea Garcon had those kind of numbers and if anyone thinks he is a true number one they are delusional, Shanahan and Loagins that is what I hoped for and got it... good day
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I don't know anyone who would consider Garcon a #1 receiver. He is a very good #2 ...... but not really the gut I would expect to carry an offense.Until this past year, the best season he'd had was 947 yards, and 13.7 yards/catch. Other than that, he's been a 600 to upper 700 yard guy. He's a good receiver, a valuable piece, but not a #1.
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I think tex's point was that CHS was whacky for saying that Garcon was a failure under Shanny.
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Welcome aboard maybe coach! Hope he can get things fired up on offense. And housebreak the new QB. Have we been bold throughout? Or just this once? Or maybe waffled in and out of bold, like a toggle? Just want to check and see how astounded I am or how often I should have been up to this point. We hope for big things from our offense. Make me cheer!
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Care to explain your weak, at best, arguement?
Garcon was the league leader in targets this year. Andre Johnson was the best WR in football under Kyle Shanahan.
Sure. I think Garcon's skills have been diminished a bit under Shanny. Him and Flash are some major deep threats. My problem with Shanny Jr. is that his offenses never attack past the safeties. They'll use decoys to mess with the safeties, get them out of their zone, but I wouldn't say that's a good offensive philosophy especially with the burner we have.
Also Shanny Jr. has a host of other problems some that would make Mangini and Daboll look like saints on how they treated players.
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Typical for her. If you asked her which way was up, she'd look up, then down and point at the floor and exclaim, "There!"
Well, the title of this thread leads one to believe it's a done deal and yet, nothing verifies that.
It used to be that when a title like that showed up here, there was a link to a REAL STORY where it was verified.
It may be true, in fact I'd bet it is. It's just not verified yet. And IMO, shouldn't be posted as fact yet.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000321397/article/kyle-shanahan-to-be-cleveland-browns-next-oc
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I think it should be interesting to see him work out from under pops and not being looked over by Kubiak only as THE offensive minded guy.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_ShanahanKyle Shanahan (born December 14, 1979) is an NFL offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns. Shanahan, at 28 years, 26 days old, became the youngest coordinator in the NFL when he was promoted by the Houston Texans on January 11, 2008.[1] His father, Mike Shanahan, is the former head coach for the Washington Redskins and the Denver Broncos. Earlier life Shanahan was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota, while his father coached at the University of Minnesota. He later attended Cherry Creek High School in Greenwood Village, Colorado, while his father served as head coach of the Denver Broncos. Shanahan accepted a scholarship offer by Carl Franks of Duke University, but chose to transfer as redshirt freshman to the University of Texas at Austin. Shanahan played wide receiver on a Longhorn team that featured future college coach Major Applewhite as well as future NFL players Roy Williams, Cedric Benson, Bo Scaife, Mike Williams, Quentin Jammer, Chris Simms. Shanahan and Simms are close friends, and Shanahan has a tattoo of Simms' initials on his leg. Coaching career “I studied every potential Xs and Os play and issue possible. I spent my whole life working on that. My goal was that any question a player could have about anything on the field, I'd be able to answer it. ” —Kyle Shanahan[3] Soon after he graduated from Texas in 2003, Shanahan became graduate assistant to Karl Dorrell at UCLA. Following that season, Shanahan was hired as assistant coach for offensive quality control under head coach Jon Gruden with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Gruden had held a similar position with the San Francisco 49ers in 1990, at about the same age that Shanahan had in 2004. In 2006, Shanahan was hired by Gary Kubiak to serve as wide receivers coach for the Houston Texans. Kubiak had previously served as offensive coordinator under Mike Shanahan with the Broncos. At the time, Kyle Shanahan was the youngest position coach in the NFL. A season later, Shanahan received another promotion to become the Texans quarterback coach. In 2007, he had also been offered to become offensive coordinator at the University of Minnesota, where former Broncos assistant Tim Brewster just became head coach. Shanahan declined, citing his decision to be an NFL coach.[4] Shanahan was immediately dealt as the frontrunner for the vacant offensive coordinator position after Mike Sherman had left the Texans to take over as head coach at Texas A&M University.[5] On January 11, 2008, he was officially promoted, becoming the youngest coordinator in the NFL, being more than three years younger than Josh McDaniels of the New England Patriots. In 2010, Shanahan left the Texans to join his father with the Washington Redskins. In 2012, Shanahan was fined $25,000 for insulting the replacement officials and confronting one after the game.[6] He was fired December 30, 2013 from the Redskins.
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Sure. I think Garcon's skills have been diminished a bit under Shanny. Him and Flash are some major deep threats. My problem with Shanny Jr. is that his offenses never attack past the safeties. They'll use decoys to mess with the safeties, get them out of their zone, but I wouldn't say that's a good offensive philosophy especially with the burner we have.
I would say that Josh Gordon has a pretty similar skill set to Andre Johnson. Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator for the Texans (Andre Johnson's team) in 2008 and 2009. In 2008 Andre Johnson had 1,575 yards and in 2009 he had 1,569 yards. I have no concerns with how Josh Gordon will be used.
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Really? I know Shanahan can act like a bit of a turd. Just Google "Eric Mangini Nate Jackson" and you might want to change that statement.
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Supposedly he's out of town, on vacation and will sign the contract when he returns.
But does seem like he is but he isn't... 
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The Browns are expected to hire Kyle Shanahan as their offensive coordinator, but a team spokesman said new coach Mike Pettine has yet to make a final ruling on his search for a play-caller.
“Mike Pettine has not made the decision,” the spokesman said this afternoon. “He's had some solid interviews, but that determination has not been made.”
Alex Marvez of Fox Sports, citing an unnamed source, reported earlier today that the Browns had hired Shanahan. Several other media outlets reported the contract has not been finalized, but it’ll become a done deal once Shanahan returns from a vacation.
Shanahan, the former offensive coordinator of the Washington Redskins, would become the offense’s play-caller if a deal is sealed as expected. Pettine, who was hired Jan. 23, said he will call the plays for the defense this year, even though he hired former Buffalo Bills linebackers coach Jim O'Neil as a defensive coordinator Monday.
The 34-year-old Shanahan also would be crucial to the team’s quest for a long-term solution at quarterback. The Browns have the fourth overall pick in May’s NFL Draft and will likely target a quarterback early.
Shanahan interviewed with the Browns on Wednesday. NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported Thursday that Shanahan’s interview “did not exactly go as planned” and that the Browns had likely moved on from him.
However, a league source told the Beacon Journal this morning that Shanahan was still under consideration for the job. The source spoke on condition of anonymity because the team had not commented on candidates during the search. Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports also reported that the Browns never moved on from Shanahan.
Shanahan served as the Redskins’ offensive coordinator from 2010-13. The Redskins fired Shanahan and his father, Mike, their former head coach, after the team went 3-13 last year on the heels of a playoff appearance the previous season. The Shanahans’ well-documented clash with quarterback Robert Griffin III also tarnished their reputations.
The younger Shanahan interviewed this offseason with the Baltimore Ravens and Miami Dolphins for their offensive coordinator jobs. Both teams passed on him.
Shanahan uses a version of the West Coast offense. The system features elements of a vertical passing attack and the zone-running scheme that Shanahan’s father is famous for employing. The pistol formation and read option also became staples of the Redskins’ offense with Griffin behind center.
Before joining the Redskins, Shanahan was the Houston Texans’ offensive coordinator from 2008-09. In four of the six seasons in which he has been an offensive coordinator, his offenses have finished in the top 10 in the league in yards per game.
The only other candidate known to interview for the Browns’ offensive coordinator job is Oakland Raiders quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo, 35. A Youngstown native, DeFilippo met with the Browns on Thursday.
Shanahan is on track to join a few offensive assistants who have already been hired by the Browns.
The Baltimore Sun, citing two unnamed sources, reported Friday night that the Browns hired former Ravens offensive line coach Andy Moeller to fill the same role in Cleveland. The Browns have yet to announce the move.
Moeller, 49, spent the past six seasons with the Ravens, serving as an assistant offensive line coach from 2008-10 and the team's main offensive line coach from 2011-13. Pettine worked for the Ravens from 2002-08, so his last season in Baltimore was Moeller’s first with the organization.
Before joining the Ravens, Moeller coached in the college ranks for 21 seasons. He spent time with Indiana, Army, Missouri and Michigan.
The Browns also hired former Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains on Thursday without a formal title, but a league source said it’s “very likely” he’ll become the team’s quarterbacks coach. The Browns announced Monday that they hired tight ends coach Brian Angelichio, who spent the past two seasons in the same capacity with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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The two years his offense wasn't in the top ten his QBs were fat Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman, and John Beck.
I wouldn't be surprised if Grossman is brought in as our third string QB. He followed Shanahan from Houston to Washington and would probably be a good guy to have in the meeting room with Hoyer and our rookie.
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Eh, I guess. I just want Flash to reach his full potential here and I don't think it'll be done with Shanny at the helm. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
I've read all of the Mangini and Daboll reports from the pop quizzes, the fumbles, the "toughening up", to the whole authoritative dictatorship that they ran in Cleveland. That said the reports on Shanny Jr. are all worse. It says he demeans his players, does nothing, but complain. Cries to his dad a lot. Just spoiled rich kid behavior to wrap it up.
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