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they just compared Watkins to Gordon.
man, we finally got players that are getting some seriously love from the rest of the league/media.
bout time.
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I think that Carr did himself a disservice (but Manziel and Bridgewater as well) by not throwing. At least Carr decided to run the 40. Bridgewater didn't even do that. That shows poorly to me. Maybe not others or even if it does, it may not have a detrimental effect on his draft position because of the position he plays. However, I can see Bridgewater being the third QB taken (and not by the Browns) after Bortles and Manziel and Bridgewater falling to Oakland. They'd be a good fit. Too bad Al Davis died, he might be the only owner (other than Dan Snyder) that would trade up and give up more than what reality would suggest.
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yep. He's just executing with ease on some of these drills. It was pretty funny to see L'Damian Washington dive for one of those balls then getting told by a coach not to 
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No I didn't catch that, but that's pretty heavy...
I think we may target WR with our pick we got from Indy.
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I think Manziel will end up falling and Bridgewater ends up going first or 2nd. I just get the feeling that we will end up starting someone like Matt Schaub starting this year.
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they just compared Watkins to Gordon.
man, we finally got players that are getting some seriously love from the rest of the league/media.
bout time.
Sure would be nice to see them both on the same team next season!
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No, because Mettenberger makes horrendous decisions, holds the ball way too long, is immobile, loses accuracy when pressured, and is a huge injury risk due to how stiff legged he is in the pocket.
Bet you watched as much of him as you did, Teddy. 
Yeah, probably as much. All QBs make bad decisions. It'll happen.
There are times when Mettenberger holds the ball too long. A lot of times, the play simply needs to be allowed to develop. Watch LSU's games. I'm sure you've watched them all. 
Injury risk? Teddy Bridgewater makes Urkel look like an OT.
All QBs lose accuracy when pressured and you make it sound like I indicated that Mettenberger was a mobile QB.  I'm not making comparisons between Mettenberger and these two QBs other than their mobility, but the immobility label would apply to both Tom Brady and Peyton Manning too. It would apply to a few other successful NFL QBs too.
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I'm not watching combine but I'm interested in Donte Moncrief from Ole Miss as a later round pick.
Anything on him from the combine?
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Your getting to be a real case. You make it sound like if the FO does not follow you were doomed. It's reasoning like that, that weve ended up drafting the Quinns and Weeden's of the world. Your trying to force a square peg into a round hole. Why draft a QB if he's not what they wanted? Does not make sense.
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I'm not watching combine but I'm interested in Donte Moncrief from Ole Miss as a later round pick.
Anything on him from the combine?
He ran very well. He dropped a ball in the gauntlet, but that's no big deal. I think by the end of the combine and his pro day he'll be a solid 3rd round pick.
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I think Manziel will end up falling and Bridgewater ends up going first or 2nd. I just get the feeling that we will end up starting someone like Matt Schaub starting this year.
I don't think that Manziel will fall too far, but Bridgewater not participating in most of the drills is odd. Why not run? Why do the broad jump and vertical? It's simply quite odd.
The Browns, if they aren't starting a drafted player, will be starting Brian Hoyer.
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Official times have just been released and they have Moncrief at a 4.4 which makes him tied for 3rd fastest WR.
Marquis Lee ran an official 4.52, again not very good, but I love the way he's framing the ball every time he catches it.
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I'm not watching combine but I'm interested in Donte Moncrief from Ole Miss as a later round pick.
Anything on him from the combine?
I'm not sure what you consider a 'later round pick' to be, but my guess is that he goes in the 3-4th round.
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Was thinking our first in the 4th. But maybe we'd need our second 3rd.
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Reasons:
--We passed on top QBs when they were available.
--We settled for lower round QBs, just like you guys want to do AGAIN, and ended up w/guys like Frye and Colt.
--We realized that we could not win w/out a top QB.
--We reached for QBs that had no business being drafted in the first round [Quinn, Weeden]
Now, we once again have a shot at a top QB, and you want to start the same sickening process over yet again. 
The reason I believe Butch Davis didn't draft Rothlisburger is because he just got rid of Tim Couch and brought in Jeff Garcia is his top FA I don't think Davis was ready to "start over" at QB. He was going for the win now and Winslow was a unique talent pre injuries.
I hated reaching for Quinn. I hated the pick. I tried sticking up for him when he was here, but hated the pick.
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Was thinking our first in the 4th. But maybe we'd need our second 3rd.
Okay, I think that we might have to use either of those picks. He's more likely to be there in the 3rd, obviously, but he might still be there in the 4th. But, remember, we're drafting 6th in the 4th round.
The Browns draft 4th in the first, 3rd in the second, 7th in the third, 6th in the fourth, 5th in the fifth, 4th in the sixth and 3rd in the seventh.
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Man Dri Archer can haul the mail!!!
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Man Dri Archer can haul the mail!!!
Yep. He's been boasting about how he's going to break the record.
I was expecting George Atkinson to be a bit faster considering he was running the 100m at 10.36 in his Freshman year.
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Man Dri Archer can haul the mail!!!
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Kid could make a nasty KR or a gunner on the kickoff team!
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He has some great hands too. I think he has a place in the NFL in a similar role as Sproles.
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And Jerick McKinnon is going to be the combine warrior of the RB's
33 reps and a 4.3 40. Damn.
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Tre Mason looked good.
Hyde is a beast in his lower body. Hope he's ok.
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Dri finishes with a 4.28. Hopefully he'll break CJ's 40 time at his pro day. George Atkinson ran a 4.39 which is impressive given his size.
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The reason I believe Butch Davis didn't draft Rothlisburger is because he just got rid of Tim Couch and brought in Jeff Garcia is his top FA I don't think Davis was ready to "start over" at QB. He was going for the win now and Winslow was a unique talent pre injuries.
I hated reaching for Quinn. I hated the pick. I tried sticking up for him when he was here, but hated the pick.
Weren't we considering taking Quinn at pick 3 and took Thomas instead? I never liked Quinn but having a potential top 5 pick falling like that to trade next years 1st rounder for, it was probably a good move that didn't work out.
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Archer can be a heck of a weapon if put in the right situation.
If he gets outside on a swing pass it's lights out!
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Clowney with 21 reps.
Von Miller had 21
Aldon Smith had 20
JPP had 19
Quinn had 22
Chandler Jones had 22
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I know it's RB's and who cares about bench press, but seeing Dri Archer out lift Carlos Hyde.
But Hyde has his strength, from watching him, in his legs. Thats why i like him, he's a break-free 230+ back with speed, like Eddie George. I tried to find fault with him over OSU's season and couldnt.
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I'm not watching combine but I'm interested in Donte Moncrief from Ole Miss as a later round pick.
Anything on him from the combine?
He would be awesome on the other side from Gordon. Yeah, we gotta get this guy! 
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The problem being, I don't see Hyde lasting into round 3, so we would either have to invest our high second round pick or package some picks to move back up into the later second round to draft him.
I just don't see that as a logical approach to the RB position since I don't see a huge drop off to the next couple of RB's rated almost as high.
Now if an offer comes to trade down into a later second round pick, I could see that as a possibility. I'm just not so sure this FO is willing to invest a high draft pick at the RB position. And I really can't say I blame them as much as I like Hyde.
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That just really scares the hell out of me.
I worry that defensive coaches might discount the QB, preferring to rely upon their defense and a strong run game, rather than a strong QB. Now if he sees Wilson as "average", and wants to get us an equally "average" QB, I'd be fine with that .... but I don't think that's what he meant.
I should add that I don't see Wilson as a Peyton Manning type. He might be able to get there one day, but he's not there yet. However, he is a top 10 QB.
Doesn't scare me at all,, as long as it works..LOL
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Archer can be a heck of a weapon if put in the right situation.
If he gets outside on a swing pass it's lights out!
I agree, but as far as the Browns, I don't think hes what they are looking for. They do have Dion Lewis coming back from injury. With Lewis and Baker fighting for a roster spot, they will look for a bigger every down back.
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That just really scares the hell out of me.
I worry that defensive coaches might discount the QB, preferring to rely upon their defense and a strong run game, rather than a strong QB. Now if he sees Wilson as "average", and wants to get us an equally "average" QB, I'd be fine with that .... but I don't think that's what he meant.
I should add that I don't see Wilson as a Peyton Manning type. He might be able to get there one day, but he's not there yet. However, he is a top 10 QB.
Doesn't scare me at all,, as long as it works..LOL
When is the last time it worked, as far as a team winning a championship?
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This year with Russell Wilson? Turns out he's pretty good (top 10 QB, though not top 5) -- but seattle heavily invested in defense, and didn't really invest much in Wilson.
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Tre Mason looked good.
Hyde is a beast in his lower body. Hope he's ok.
those are the 2 backs I have with a first round grade. get either of those in the 2nd and woo hoo.
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I know it's RB's and who cares about bench press, but seeing Dri Archer out lift Carlos Hyde.
But Hyde has his strength, from watching him, in his legs. Thats why i like him, he's a break-free 230+ back with speed, like Eddie George. I tried to find fault with him over OSU's season and couldnt.
I see the bench press numbers but I never see any leg press numbers. Why don't they include the leg press in the combine? I was routinely able to leg press 650-700 lbs.
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That just really scares the hell out of me.
I worry that defensive coaches might discount the QB, preferring to rely upon their defense and a strong run game, rather than a strong QB. Now if he sees Wilson as "average", and wants to get us an equally "average" QB, I'd be fine with that .... but I don't think that's what he meant.
I should add that I don't see Wilson as a Peyton Manning type. He might be able to get there one day, but he's not there yet. However, he is a top 10 QB.
Doesn't scare me at all,, as long as it works..LOL
When is the last time it worked, as far as a team winning a championship?
See there you go being logical... LOL
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