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This is a very interesting story to me. There are very few real mysteries in life, but right now, this is one of them.
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Another interesting theory:
http://mh370shadow.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68
Refs: I searched the rules of the pound and sticky notes and didn't see if blogs are allowed now or not, please forgive me for posting this if they are not.
Sounds like the experts think that is possible, but the skill level of that would probably have to be someone with a military pilot type background.
Althoug they are saying it takes someone with pretty good knowledge to disable this ACARS system too. Even some of these expert pilot analysts say they wouldn't be able to do it.
if you're really interested in this like I am, there are pretty solid updates as well as a plethora of bat-poo crazy theories on reddit...
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I love conspiracy stuff. A man named Ed Dames is professional remote viewer. Teaches it, has students, a few websites, etc. Been on Coast-to-Coast a million times. He's my fav guest. He has a message board for his students and a thread about this. Let's see if they can figure out what is up with this missing plane before anyone else can. If interested, thread is here: http://www.rvcommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10431
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NEW INFO: Malaysia's defense minister said today that files were recently deleted from a home flight simulator belonging to the pilot aboard the missing Malaysian plane.
Read the full story on FoxNews.com: http://tinyurl.com/qynqz8m
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Putting aside all of the conspiracy stuff, here is a very logical take on the situation: A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet BY CHRIS GOODFELLOW03.18.146:30 AM http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/There has been a lot of speculation about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Terrorism, hijacking, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN; it’s almost disturbing. I tend to look for a simpler explanation, and I find it with the 13,000-foot runway at Pulau Langkawi. We know the story of MH370: A loaded Boeing 777 departs at midnight from Kuala Lampur, headed to Beijing. A hot night. A heavy aircraft. About an hour out, across the gulf toward Vietnam, the plane goes dark, meaning the transponder and secondary radar tracking go off. Two days later we hear reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar, meaning the plane is tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the Strait of Malacca. The left turn is the key here. Zaharie Ahmad Shah1 was a very experienced senior captain with 18,000 hours of flight time. We old pilots were drilled to know what is the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us, and airports ahead of us. They’re always in our head. Always. If something happens, you don’t want to be thinking about what are you going to do–you already know what you are going to do. When I saw that left turn with a direct heading, I instinctively knew he was heading for an airport. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier toward Langkawi, which also was closer. Take a look at this airport on Google Earth. The pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport. The loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and searched for airports in proximity to the track toward the southwest. For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the busses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations. There are two types of fires. An electrical fire might not be as fast and furious, and there may or may not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility, given the timeline, that there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires, it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes, this happens with underinflated tires. Remember: Heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long-run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. Once going, a tire fire would produce horrific, incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks, but this is a no-no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter, but this will last only a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one in my flight bag, and I still carry one in my briefcase when I fly.) What I think happened is the flight crew was overcome by smoke and the plane continued on the heading, probably on George (autopilot), until it ran out of fuel or the fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. You will find it along that route–looking elsewhere is pointless. Ongoing speculation of a hijacking and/or murder-suicide and that there was a flight engineer on board does not sway me in favor of foul play until I am presented with evidence of foul play. We know there was a last voice transmission that, from a pilot’s point of view, was entirely normal. “Good night” is customary on a hand-off to a new air traffic control. The “good night” also strongly indicates to me that all was OK on the flight deck. Remember, there are many ways a pilot can communicate distress. A hijack code or even transponder code off by one digit would alert ATC that something was wrong. Every good pilot knows keying an SOS over the mike always is an option. Even three short clicks would raise an alert. So I conclude that at the point of voice transmission all was perceived as well on the flight deck by the pilots. But things could have been in the process of going wrong, unknown to the pilots. Evidently the ACARS went inoperative some time before. Disabling the ACARS is not easy, as pointed out. This leads me to believe more in an electrical problem or an electrical fire than a manual shutdown. I suggest the pilots probably were not aware ACARS was not transmitting. As for the reports of altitude fluctuations, given that this was not transponder-generated data but primary radar at maybe 200 miles, the azimuth readings can be affected by a lot of atmospherics and I would not have high confidence in this being totally reliable. But let’s accept for a minute that the pilot may have ascended to 45,000 feet in a last-ditch effort to quell a fire by seeking the lowest level of oxygen. That is an acceptable scenario. At 45,000 feet, it would be tough to keep this aircraft stable, as the flight envelope is very narrow and loss of control in a stall is entirely possible. The aircraft is at the top of its operational ceiling. The reported rapid rates of descent could have been generated by a stall, followed by a recovery at 25,000 feet. The pilot may even have been diving to extinguish flames. But going to 45,000 feet in a hijack scenario doesn’t make any good sense to me. Regarding the additional flying time: On departing Kuala Lampur, Flight 370 would have had fuel for Beijing and an alternate destination, probably Shanghai, plus 45 minutes–say, 8 hours. Maybe more. He burned 20-25 percent in the first hour with takeoff and the climb to cruise. So when the turn was made toward Langkawi, he would have had six hours or more hours worth of fuel. This correlates nicely with the Inmarsat data pings being received until fuel exhaustion. Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. The now known continued flight until time to fuel exhaustion only confirms to me that the crew was incapacitated and the flight continued on deep into the south Indian ocean. There is no point speculating further until more evidence surfaces, but in the meantime it serves no purpose to malign pilots who well may have been in a struggle to save this aircraft from a fire or other serious mechanical issue. Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. There is no doubt in my mind. That’s the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijacking would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It probably would have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided where they were taking it. Surprisingly, none of the reporters, officials, or other pilots interviewed have looked at this from the pilot’s viewpoint: If something went wrong, where would he go? Thanks to Google Earth I spotted Langkawi in about 30 seconds, zoomed in and saw how long the runway was and I just instinctively knew this pilot knew this airport. He had probably flown there many times. Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well-remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed, I believe, in Columbus, Ohio in the 1980s. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn’t instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually, but lost 30-odd souls. The 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. They simply ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what? The transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the busses. Get on Google Earth and type in Pulau Langkawi and then look at it in relation to the radar track heading. Two plus two equals four. For me, that is the simple explanation why it turned and headed in that direction. Smart pilot. He just didn’t have the time. Chris Goodfellow has 20 years experience as a Canadian Class-1 instrumented-rated pilot for multi-engine planes. His theory on what happened to MH370 first appeared on Google+. We’ve copyedited it with his permission.
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People,, it's the aliens.. They did it.
Someone on the Today show this morning floated the theory that the plane was hijacked, taken to a remote landing location and will be used at a later date in a 9/11 type attack
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That theory of a ghost plane was debunked yesterday. Especially after NBC confirmed that the plane was programmed to divert 12 minutes before the final spoken communication.
I really wish Inmarstat had more info. If they had the 7:11 ping, you could almost lock down where the plane was an hour later by the placement of the arc. You could also see what direction the plane was going.
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I forget what I had on the radio either yesterday or the day before, but there was a pilot on, and he said that if there was a major crash into the ocean, at a high rate of speed, that there would literally be nothing left of the plane to find.
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I forget what I had on the radio either yesterday or the day before, but there was a pilot on, and he said that if there was a major crash into the ocean, at a high rate of speed, that there would literally be nothing left of the plane to find.
That's kinda like t he crash site in Shanksville PA on 9/11. I wasn't there, but pictures of the crash site don't seem to show any plane wreckage. Just a big hole in the ground.
I wonder if that's what he means
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That theory of a ghost plane was debunked yesterday. Especially after NBC confirmed that the plane was programmed to divert 12 minutes before the final spoken communication.
How could they confirm when the plane was programmed to divert? Does anyone have an accurate timeline of when things happened?
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I forget what I had on the radio either yesterday or the day before, but there was a pilot on, and he said that if there was a major crash into the ocean, at a high rate of speed, that there would literally be nothing left of the plane to find.
That's kinda like t he crash site in Shanksville PA on 9/11. I wasn't there, but pictures of the crash site don't seem to show any plane wreckage. Just a big hole in the ground.
I wonder if that's what he means
Yeah, similar case, only in the ocean he said that there wouldn't even be enough left to float.
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It's wild to think about NOTHING making it through that kind of crash. Nothing?? Crazy stuff. 
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That theory of a ghost plane was debunked yesterday. Especially after NBC confirmed that the plane was programmed to divert 12 minutes before the final spoken communication.
How could they confirm when the plane was programmed to divert? Does anyone have an accurate timeline of when things happened?
The timeline seems to keep changing, but it was NBC who confirmed that someone on the plane programmed the flight plan to go west 12 minutes before the rookie pilot said good night to the Malaysian air space...
I don't know a ton about piloting, but do you have to change the flight plan to divert the plane? Can you just fly it based on coordinates?
Because if you were going to do something bad with this plane, why would you program it in? I wonder if that was maybe the pilot getting a few seconds to somehow let people on the ground know that something was wrong. Suppose someone had a knife to him or a passenger and he was told to not use any hijack codes while signing off with Malaysia...
As far as this plane just disintegrating without evidence, I think experts are saying most likely no because satellites would have caught the fireball.
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Also, the black box's batteries are only designed to last 30 days, then they stop sending out the pings.
As sad as this all is, it's utterly fascinating.
Frankly, my belief is that there was some sort of catastrophic mechanical or electrical failure that cut off all communications and possibly incapacitated those on board so the plane just flew till it ran out of fuel and crashed.
The hijacking thing certainly seems plausible, but I have to think someone would have gotten a cell call out or one of those plane phones. Then again, if they're out over the ocean or some jungle, might not have reception.
In any event, a lot of different scenarios seem plausible. I'm just leaning toward the "innocent" one.
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Frankly, my belief is that there was some sort of catastrophic mechanical or electrical failure that cut off all communications and possibly incapacitated those on board so the plane just flew till it ran out of fuel and crashed.
The hijacking thing certainly seems plausible, but I have to think someone would have gotten a cell call out or one of those plane phones. Then again, if they're out over the ocean or some jungle, might not have reception.
In any event, a lot of different scenarios seem plausible. I'm just leaning toward the "innocent" one.
I don't know what really to think anymore these days. This day and age, WHO doesn't have a cell phone? All them passengers and not one squeaked out a SOS call for help or anything? Not even a text to a family member eluding as to what is happening/unfolding? Were they all gassed or something and then all devices removed by the hijackers?
If some mechanical, non-terrorist event happened, I'd assume for sure SOME type of communications from SOMEONE within that plane (staff to passengers and everything above, below and in between) would've been made. It's only logical to assume that. By everything I gathered, this seems more like a well-planned adn executed attempt of hijacking a plane.
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That't the thing, you could be 100% right. So many of the scenarios seem so plausible, from the innocent to the nefarious.
Like I said above, I think about the Payne Stewart plane crash where there was a failure with the oxygen, so they all died, but the plane didn't crash till it ran out of fuel.
But, again, anything seems possible.
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It's only my opinion but I think there are too many red flags for this to be an accident.
Losing contact almost as soon as there was a handoff from Malaysian airspace to Vietnamese airspace. Both transponders being shut off 10 minutes apart. A "good night" communication 12 minutes after someone programmed the flight to divert.
It just seems like there was deliberate action to wipe this plane out of everyone's sight.
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It's wild to think about NOTHING making it through that kind of crash. Nothing?? Crazy stuff.
Well, what is a jet plane made of? Aluminium, Fiberglass, Plastic? A Titanium substructure?
It seems to me that jets are designed to fly ....... not really to withstand a crash.
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There was wreckage from Flight 93.
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There was wreckage from Flight 93.
right, and that plane was flown under power, full speed into the ground.
big difference between that and a plane that ran out of fuel and plummeted into water.
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I forget what I had on the radio either yesterday or the day before, but there was a pilot on, and he said that if there was a major crash into the ocean, at a high rate of speed, that there would literally be nothing left of the plane to find.
That's kinda like t he crash site in Shanksville PA on 9/11. I wasn't there, but pictures of the crash site don't seem to show any plane wreckage. Just a big hole in the ground.
I wonder if that's what he means
Yeah, similar case, only in the ocean he said that there wouldn't even be enough left to float.
No sooner did I write that that I thought, you know,, I haven't looked at pictures of the crash site in Shanksville for years.. So I went there and looked and sure enough, the only part I saw this time was the tail of the plane.. So I was incorrect ,..., Damn I hate it when I do that LOL
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I forget what I had on the radio either yesterday or the day before, but there was a pilot on, and he said that if there was a major crash into the ocean, at a high rate of speed, that there would literally be nothing left of the plane to find.
I would venture to guess that there would still be an oil slick and some floating debris field. But, I did not sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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It's been years since I slept at a Holiday Inn Express ..... and even longer since I stayed awake at one.  Anyway ... I am no expert ..... but am just trying my best to convey what the guy I heard said.
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It's been years since I slept at a Holiday Inn Express ..... and even longer since I stayed awake at one.
Anyway ... I am no expert ..... but am just trying my best to convey what the guy I heard said.
I'm just guessing too. Had I slept at a HIP, I would know the answer. Maybe they should find someone who did! As a side note, I did read that Craig's list had a slightly used 777 in its listings for $70. ^
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Not sure a disclaimer will help, they'll be some drunk come along and twist it into something else.
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the pilots are responsible in my opinion. they flew south to the indian ocean where they could disappear without a trace. Just amazing they weren't detected going off course, and the millitary wasn't notified to see what was going on. If this happened in the United States, air traffic control would know in 5 minutes at the latest, if a plane was going of course. Just a total breakdown from the maylasia govt.
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the pilots are responsible in my opinion. they flew south to the indian ocean where they could disappear without a trace. Just amazing they weren't detected going off course, and the millitary wasn't notified to see what was going on. If this happened in the United States, air traffic control would know in 5 minutes at the latest, if a plane was going of course. Just a total breakdown from the maylasia govt.
Yes, in the U.S. we would know within 5 minutes... Unless it was on that one day in September that really counted. 
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the pilots are responsible in my opinion. they flew south to the indian ocean where they could disappear without a trace. Just amazing they weren't detected going off course, and the millitary wasn't notified to see what was going on. If this happened in the United States, air traffic control would know in 5 minutes at the latest, if a plane was going of course. Just a total breakdown from the maylasia govt.
The middle of the ocean isnt covered in airports and radar stations either...
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No, but they did fly back over land in Malaysia, when they went west. From what I've read, there should've been communication between Malaysia, and Vietnam air traffic control, when the plane was transitioning from the two countries.
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No, but they did fly back over land in Malaysia, when they went west. From what I've read, there should've been communication between Malaysia, and Vietnam air traffic control, when the plane was transitioning from the two countries.
I can't believe that thing dropped off radar, got picked up by military radar of 2 countries, flew BACK over land in Malaysia, and nobody thought to look into it?
Regardless of where this thing is, and if this new evidence points to it being in the southern Indian ocean, a bunch of people in that industry have failed miserably, and so has their military. That's embarrassing.
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So let me get this straight. A fly by wire capable jet goes missing. It is on one course, turns and goes in almost the opposite direction on a heading which would take it to the US base at Diego Garcia. The plane has 20 technology nerds aboard who happen to work for China designing "classified" leading edge computer/internet control software and are carrying the matching hardware with them on the plane. They are heading to Beijing with all the others. We are shown pictures of muslim looking men as if they are on the plane....setting up the expectation that the plane has been hijacked. Convenient story line so far.
While we are down the rabbit hole this far, lets go all the way. The jet lands by wire at Diego Garcia, the appropriate hardware and software is offloaded as are the nerds. Interrogation proceeds and all the "secrets" you would want to gain from this "intervention" are gleaned from the assets.
You now load everyone back on board the plane and have it take off headed back to where it was supposed to go and at 35,000 ft altitude it implodes/explodes and the debris field is now found. How they missed it in the beginning is a mystery. But the western mindset is already prepared to believe that all things eastern and "Malaysian/Indonesian/Muslim" are barely able to tie shoelaces let alone search an ocean.
So what do you think so far? "Am I right or am I right" spoken in the voice of the nerdy insurance salesman "Ned" in Groundhog Day.
America/Obama gets the information that they want, who cares if a bunch of innocent people have to die (Obama -"I am pretty good at killing people.") and more lies per minute have to fly to cover this huge piece of cow manure over.
Welcome to the world of the marxist muslim amateur Obama and his new found friends, the Chinese. Yes, I did say friends. After all he just gave control of the internet to "the world" and just by happenstance his brother Mark, whose partnership with the intelligence community of China I let the world know about in an earlier missive. Betrayal and treason are the mainstays of this America hating fraud in the Oval office. Hows that jihad coming along Barry?
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So let me get this straight. A fly by wire capable jet goes missing. It is on one course, turns and goes in almost the opposite direction on a heading which would take it to the US base at Diego Garcia. The plane has 20 technology nerds aboard who happen to work for China designing "classified" leading edge computer/internet control software and are carrying the matching hardware with them on the plane. They are heading to Beijing with all the others. We are shown pictures of muslim looking men as if they are on the plane....setting up the expectation that the plane has been hijacked. Convenient story line so far.
While we are down the rabbit hole this far, lets go all the way. The jet lands by wire at Diego Garcia, the appropriate hardware and software is offloaded as are the nerds. Interrogation proceeds and all the "secrets" you would want to gain from this "intervention" are gleaned from the assets.
You now load everyone back on board the plane and have it take off headed back to where it was supposed to go and at 35,000 ft altitude it implodes/explodes and the debris field is now found. How they missed it in the beginning is a mystery. But the western mindset is already prepared to believe that all things eastern and "Malaysian/Indonesian/Muslim" are barely able to tie shoelaces let alone search an ocean.
So what do you think so far? "Am I right or am I right" spoken in the voice of the nerdy insurance salesman "Ned" in Groundhog Day.
America/Obama gets the information that they want, who cares if a bunch of innocent people have to die (Obama -"I am pretty good at killing people.") and more lies per minute have to fly to cover this huge piece of cow manure over.
Welcome to the world of the marxist muslim amateur Obama and his new found friends, the Chinese. Yes, I did say friends. After all he just gave control of the internet to "the world" and just by happenstance his brother Mark, whose partnership with the intelligence community of China I let the world know about in an earlier missive. Betrayal and treason are the mainstays of this America hating fraud in the Oval office. Hows that jihad coming along Barry?
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It's amazing to see what people come up with and how they try to pigeon-hole ALL of their biases into one, idyllic scenario. How their brain does this without exploding is beyond me.
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That theory sounds reasonable to me.
I'm convinced.
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That theory sounds reasonable to me.
I'm convinced.
I was, then the Illuminati got to me.
There are no sacred cows.
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You know ... I think this plane had a new secret Chinese technology called a "caterpillar engine", which made the plane virtually silent and impossible to detect with the best reconnaissance. However, the captain of the plane let his intentions known to the Chinese government that he planed to defect to the US with the new secret technology. The plane went into the secret "Caterpillar" mode, and the game was on with the Chinese military.
However, a team of CIA research analysts were able to figure this out and board the plane through a much smaller jet that could connect to other jets through a universal docking collar. They made the plane look like it had and accident over "somewhere deep" in the ocean, and then flew the plane secretly to a remote US airbase. The passengers of the plane are now leading quiet, yet secretive lives somewhere in Montana while the CIA tears this plane apart to learn all of it's secrets.
Of course none of that ... "actually happened".
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Hehehee  Let's hope it doesn't lead to a 'Red Storm Rising' analogy 
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Your explanation is not feasible because it does not contain at least 3 chapters worth of material describing, in painstaking detail, how one of the jet engines works.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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and they all have two wives.. Big Round American Woman...... 
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
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Of course none of that ... "actually happened".
Only true believers are on to them!
There are no sacred cows.
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