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Your explanation is not feasible because it does not contain at least 3 chapters worth of material describing, in painstaking detail, how one of the jet engines works.
Oh it's feasible alright. That "turn" that keeps getting talked about in the media. Can you say "Crazy Ivan"?
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I think it just crashed in the ocean, and the ocean is a pretty big place.
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Something new everyday. Just a week ago they said it went up to 45,000 feet. Now all of a sudden, they may not have programmed the plane to change course. It's anyone's guess. You would think if they had a catastrophic problem the plane would've crashed a short time later, not have crashed so far south in the Indian Ocean
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This story just gets weirder and weirder.
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This story just gets weirder and weirder.
The way info has come out about this plane keep sending the media in different directions, I can only imagine what it is doing to those families.
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Sounds like they may have found something. There is a major announcement coming later this afternoon and there are reports from SkyNews that the families are being chartered to Australia.
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New satellite tracking confirms path to South Indian Ocean? Its baffling to me that we have "new satellite" information two weeks after the fact.
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I heard there has been a positive ID on wreckage.
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Malaysia PM: "It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that according to this new data, Flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."
Sounds like they have indeed found the wreckage and etc. Sad news as much as we all wanted to know where it was. Guess the details of the "what and why" will come about in the days/weeks to come.
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Yeah, while it might help the families to get some closure, it's tough because I'm sure they all held that glimmer of hope that maybe, somehow, some passengers survived.
As to the "what happened", I'm sticking by my theory that it was nothing nefarious.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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New satellite tracking confirms path to South Indian Ocean? Its baffling to me that we have "new satellite" information two weeks after the fact.
Not really. It's not like the satellite was tracking the plane. I am sure analysts had to dig pretty deep in to the transmission data to dig out the info they were seeking.
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New satellite tracking confirms path to South Indian Ocean? Its baffling to me that we have "new satellite" information two weeks after the fact.
Not really. It's not like the satellite was tracking the plane. I am sure analysts had to dig pretty deep in to the transmission data to dig out the info they were seeking.
Exactly. You are talking about tons and tons of data, that gets stored away in some archive somewhere. It takes time to find what you're looking for and then pinpoint the data you need.
I think people forget just how big our oceans are, and while we have the technology to see all kinds of data with satellites and stuff, it still amounts to a needle in a haystack if, A) You weren't watching for it in the first place, and B) You have no idea where to look anyway.
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I think people forget just how big our oceans are, and while we have the technology to see all kinds of data with satellites and stuff, it still amounts to a needle in a haystack if, A) You weren't watching for it in the first place, and B) You have no idea where to look anyway.
That's not going to stop the conspiracy theorists from creating their elaborate fictional tales.
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I think people forget just how big our oceans are, and while we have the technology to see all kinds of data with satellites and stuff, it still amounts to a needle in a haystack if, A) You weren't watching for it in the first place, and B) You have no idea where to look anyway.
I keep thinking: Where are the drones???
We are flying planes 1500 miles to search for 2 hours.
I'm envisioning a ship (or cargo plane) launching dozens of small drones from the search zone at daybreak and teams of people reviewing the data in real time, even conducting secondary reviews of the film at night. They could refuel and re-launch all day. Heck, make the videos public and let anyone/everyone review what the drones' cameras captured.
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I think people forget just how big our oceans are, and while we have the technology to see all kinds of data with satellites and stuff, it still amounts to a needle in a haystack if, A) You weren't watching for it in the first place, and B) You have no idea where to look anyway.
I keep thinking: Where are the drones???
We are flying planes 1500 miles to search for 2 hours.
I'm envisioning a ship (or cargo plane) launching dozens of small drones from the search zone at daybreak and teams of people reviewing the data in real time, even conducting secondary reviews of the film at night. They could refuel and re-launch all day. Heck, make the videos public and let anyone/everyone review what the drones' cameras captured.
I was in a drone squadron while in the Navy. The logistics of using U.S. military drones to search for wreckage floating in the middle of the Indian ocean is more complicated then you suggest it would be. It could take up to 90 days or so to get all the personnel, pilots, equipment and drones mobilized and on station. By then it's way too late for a human rescue mission. But even if they could mobilize and be on station faster, military drones are not the best tool for a remote rescue search over high seas and in rough stormy weather. But I suppose they could be a great rescue tool if they were set up that way in advance and ready to go at a moments notice.
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And none of that is even to mention that it takes a LOT longer to get ships on station that people think.
10+ days for a ship to go from Hawaii to the middle of the Indian Ocean isn't too shabby... of course, it'd have to be one of the ships set up to conduct that type of mission.
Besides.... why is it OUR mission to conduct (unless we were asked for help)?
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Besides.... why is it OUR mission to conduct (unless we were asked for help)?
It isn't our mission. We've been asked to help, as always.
The Russian Federation offered to cover the nothern path of the search in the Ukraine, "Not a probwem" said Pres, Putin.
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The logistics of using U.S. military drones to search for wreckage floating in the middle of the Indian ocean is more complicated then you suggest it would be.
But I suppose they could be a great rescue tool if they were set up that way in advance and ready to go at a moments notice.
For better or worse, we're bound to get involved. But I never specified US Military Drones. I'm sure China has drones and there are private drones. Malaysian Air can pay for it or publicly refuse to. Same with the ships. There are private vessels searching. I don't know if a small drone could land on a freighter, though.
And yes, more of our military investments should be cross-utilized for other purposes when they aren't needed in defense. Considering that we're not in another nation's territory, I'd like to think $600 Billion a year could get 1 ship and some drones there in 17 days.
Well, its not a rescue anymore. So I guess it hardly matters at this point. But I'd like to see them prepared for use in rescue purposes.
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As I and other have said...the Indian Ocean is a large ocean. You could probably place Canada and the US inside it's basic boundaries.
I am no expert on drones , but no way they have the range of a Orion or Posidon aircraft.
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I'm not an expert on drones either, but I do have a degree in Geography  so I know the Indian Ocean is large. I did some research. Best I could find, it appears its not the scope of the search area or the distance from the U.S. Some of our military drones can fly 30 hours at 60,000 feet. As opposed to 9 hours for the planes. The issue appears to be the water. They are configured for land based missions. The waves cause issues. Correction: According to Al Jazeera We are using a Triton Drone. U.S. Using It's Most Advanced Drone Aircraft Searching For Malaysia 370 http://www.youtube.com/v/Tw-7csq5FDg
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I'm not an expert on drones either, but I do have a degree in Geography so I know the Indian Ocean is large.
I did some research. Best I could find, it appears its not the scope of the search area or the distance from the U.S. Some of our military drones can fly 30 hours at 60,000 feet. As opposed to 9 hours for the planes. The issue appears to be the water. They are configured for land based missions. The waves cause issues.
Correction: According to Al Jazeera We are using a Triton Drone.
U.S. Using It's Most Advanced Drone Aircraft Searching For Malaysia 370
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Cool youtube..I loved working with drones. I was in recovery so I know how difficult it is to seach for down aircraft on the water.
Most drones operate high out of the weather. At sea there can be a persistant marine layer overcast. And even a large single random cloud can cover and conceal 100 square miles of surface at times.
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The Indian Ocean is probably bigger than the continent of Africa, so it's no small search area. Also, as other have mentioned, it's not best suited for oceanic search and rescue. It can search for heat signatures, but plane debris doesn't necessarily give off heat.
Still, the biggest issue is size of the ocean. You can give a person a state of the art magnifying glass, gut if you point them to a square-mile field and tell them you lost a button, they're still going to have a hard time tracking it down.
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I just pulled this from a article I was reading since it relates to the scope of the search and how daunting it still remains.. I am not providing a link since it is just a fraction of the piece. Quote:
Hishamuddin said the search zone had been "narrowed" from 2.24 million nautical square miles to a 469,407 square nautical miles – or 621,632 square miles, which is an area almost the size of Alaska.
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Besides.... why is it OUR mission to conduct (unless we were asked for help)?
A bunch of texans on board. Not or mission but we have interests to help.
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3 US citizens I thought, 1 adult and 2 children.
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Oh it says 20 employees of a Texas company. I assumed they were all texans.
My bad
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Anyone heard anything new? Coverage has died off.
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Last I read, they're getting more and more satellite readings of potential debris, but they haven't been able to actually find any.
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They need more time for planes to fly debris out to the area so the satellites will have something to show.
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Report: China Ship Searching for Jet Detects 'Pulse' BY MARIAN SMITH AND ERIC BACULINAO A Chinese ship searching for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has detected a "pulse" signal in the Indian Ocean, China's state news agencies CCTV and Xinhua said Saturday. China's Haixun 01 marine surveillance ship detected signals with a frequency of 37.5 kHz per second, CCTV said in a tweet. "Not proven to be linked to #MH370 yet," the post said. The frequency of 37.5 kHz per second is currently the international standard frequency for the underwater locator beacon on a plane's "black box." Chinese media reported that the signal was detected at a latitude of 25 degrees south and a longitude of 101 degrees east. The signal reportedly lasted for a minute and a half. China's Haixun 01 is the command and coordination vessel for all Chinese ships involved in the search in this area. A high-level U.S. government official told NBC News that the reports of the detected pulse had not yet been corroborated and therefore could not be verified. Earlier Saturday Malaysia's defense minister and acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein held a press briefing that yielded virtually no updates on the fate of the missing plane. He announced the formation of an investigation team comprising of three committees: an airworthiness group, an operations group and a medical and human factors group. The Boeing 777 airliner disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board. Its planned route was from Malaysia's capital Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, China. Katy Tur of NBC News and Reuters contributed to this report. This is a breaking news story. Please check back for more updates. First published April 5th 2014, 8:03 am web page
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