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http://news.yahoo.com/state-tv-says-russia-could-turn-us-radioactive-212003397.htmlMoscow (AFP) - A leading anchor on Russian state television on Sunday described Russia as the only country capable of turning the United States into "radioactive ash", in an incendiary comment at the height of tensions over the Crimea referendum. Related Stories Russia can turn U.S. to radioactive ash: Kremlin-backed journalist Reuters Moscow wins overwhelming Crimea vote, West readies sanctions Reuters China urges restraint in Ukraine, ducks comment on Crimea vote Reuters Russia test-fires ICBM amid tension over Ukraine Reuters Russia warns could halt foreign arms checks AFP "Russia is the only country in the world realistically capable of turning the United States into radioactive ash," anchor Dmitry Kiselyov said on his weekly news show on state-controlled Rossiya 1 television. Kiselyov made the comment to support his argument that the United States and President Barack Obama were living in fear of Russia led by President Vladimir Putin amid the Ukraine crisis. His programme was broadcast as the first exit polls were being published showing an overwhelming majority of Crimeans voting to leave Ukraine and join Russia. He stood in his studio in front of a gigantic image of a mushroom cloud produced after a nuclear attack, with the words "into radioactive ash". "Americans themselves consider Putin to be a stronger leader than Obama," he added, pointing to opinion polls which then popped up on the screen. "Why is Obama phoning Putin all the time and talking to him for hours on end?" he asked. Kiselyov has earned a reputation as one of Russia's most provocative television news hosts, in particularly with his often blatantly homophobic remarks. But he is also hugely influential with his weekly news show broadcast at Sunday evening prime time. Putin last year appointed Kiselyov head of the new Russia Today news agency that is to replace the soon to be liquidated RIA Novosti news agency with the aim of better promoting Russia's official position. Kiselyov also made great play of Russia's so-called "dead hand" capability to fire nuclear-capable intercontinental missiles automatically in the case of attack. The system, also known as Perimeter, was in use during the Cold War but its use in post-Soviet Russia is not officially confirmed. But Kiselyov appeared to claim it remained active, giving Russia the chance to strike back even if its main command positions were taken out in a strike by the West. "Even if people in all our command posts after an enemy atomic attack cannot be contacted, the system will automatically fire our missiles from mines and submarines in the right direction," he added. The channel's graphic showed the line of a Russian missile heading towards the Pacific coast and the United States. Pro-opposition news site slon.ru did not mince its words in describing the implications of Kiselyov's comments. "This evening... Dmitry Kiselyov threatened the United States with a nuclear strike if the conflict over Crimea deepens," it said. Russia and the United States are reducing their Cold War missile and nuclear warhead arsenals under the terms of the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty that entered into force in 2011. _____________________ and of course, republicans are going to buy into this hook, line, and sinker. nevermind the fact that nuclear war will almost never happen, because if they send nukes, we send nukes, and russia will be turned to ash at the same time we are, which is why nuclear war between two countries has never happened yet. as a soldier, i find it utterly disrespectful for any american to show so much love to putin, the enemy, over obama, our president. is obama doing great? hell no, and i wish ron paul would've been the president, but theres a lot of people riding putin's balls. sucking up to the same guy who won't hesitate to KILL you. what a great guy putin is.  i'm serious. if you're an american citizen, and you're showing love to putin, please leave this country. i don't want to go to war for you. i don't want to protect your freedoms. i hope you burn, and i mean that with all my heart. move to russia, and show loyalty to putin and communism, because thats EXACTLY what Fox news and others are doing when they hype this lunatic up. and what pisses me off even more, is that the wild cowboy that bush was, didn't send and military action to georgia, and he was PRAISED over it, but a black guy shows restraint, and now we'e weak? simply pathetic.
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so the Russians give those guys television shows too. anyway, we hit with some sanctions. not really sure where the legality of either side fits in with international law though. basically, we picked and chose a few people involved to freeze assets, but not Putin. we could add to the list or subtract based on what they do next. financial warfare. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
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IMO, whoever gave her permission to say such a thing on TV needs to be beaten senseless... "incendiary" comment? Try just flat out stupid. Media is worthless. I don't want to be a part of another Cold War situation.
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Does this reporter realize that we could turn Russia into the same thing in about the same amount of time... What a doe doe..
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anyway, we hit with some sanctions. not really sure where the legality of either side fits in with international law though. basically, we picked and chose a few people involved to freeze assets, but not Putin. we could add to the list or subtract based on what they do next. financial warfare.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
putin is doing nothing but ruining his own country.
what happens when EU pulls most of their exports going to russia?
all russia has is those tiny countries that use to be russia, like ukraine. major military action? russia would be crushed.
the threat of nukes is all they have. and sorry, its a weak one, because if they send nukes, NATO sends theres.
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IMO, whoever gave her permission to say such a thing on TV needs to be beaten senseless... "incendiary" comment? Try just flat out stupid. Media is worthless. I don't want to be a part of another Cold War situation.
we won't. which is why i'm glad obama is showing some restraint. leadership isn't sending military to handle every damn situation that happens. hell, a lot of leadership in politics is doing the opposite.
putin is doing nothing but hurting himself. he's pumping his chest, but the only ones who care are russians.
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exactly, the UK can as well. so does other nuclear countries. and putin would be sorely mistaken if he thinks China will back him.
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because thats EXACTLY what Fox news and others are doing when they hype this lunatic up.
Almost everything I've read from Fox News seems to think Obama should take a harder line AGAINST Putin.. not sure that is hyping Putin up over Obama...
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simply pathetic.
And a few years after Obama is gone, if he is succeeded by a Republican, democrats will have forgotten all that he did and will blast away at whoever the new President is for things like executive orders, excessive vacation, his accent, foreign policy..... that's the way it works.. (or doesn't work, depending on your perspective) 
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because thats EXACTLY what Fox news and others are doing when they hype this lunatic up.
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simply pathetic.
And a few years after Obama is gone, if he is succeeded by a Republican, democrats will have forgotten all that he did and will blast away at whoever the new President is for things like executive orders, excessive vacation, his accent, foreign policy..... that's the way it works.. (or doesn't work, depending on your perspective)
i dunno about others. i'm not others. i'm myself.
i don't like everything that every president does, but when it comes to my president versus somebody else from a different country. i always choose the home squad.
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simply pathetic.
And a few years after Obama is gone, if he is succeeded by a Republican, democrats will have forgotten all that he did and will blast away at whoever the new President is for things like executive orders, excessive vacation, his accent, foreign policy..... that's the way it works.. (or doesn't work, depending on your perspective)
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Putin a better president than Obama: Romney
http://nypost.com/2014/01/25/putins-a-better-president-than-obama-romney-says/
and Fox news hyped that up with all there peoples agreeing and such.
THATS what pisses me off. more love for the enemy than our own president.
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and Fox news hyped that up with all there peoples agreeing and such.
THATS what pisses me off. more love for the enemy than our own president.
Hey I'm not going to disagree with you but you are kind of making my point.. .When Bush was the President, the left was touting how great leaders were from around the world, every time one of them said anything derogatory about Bush it would get plastered in the media and democrats would come from far and wide to comment on the Huffington Post articles on how the rest of the world was laughing at us and we were this and we were that and other world leaders are so great and ours is so terrible... I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just pointing out that it's not just Obama that gets treated this way and it has nothing to do with him being black....
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I have never worried about this. When I was in 7th grade in the late 70s, that was the last time I did one of the, "Get under your desk, put your head between your knees, and kiss your butt goodbye' drills. There was a special on CBS news that described what an all out attack would probably be like.
1st target - Cheyanne Mountain Colorado. Home of NORAD. Obvious.
2nd target - KC area. Most of our nukes are based in this area.
3rd target - Norfolk VA, home of the largest naval base in the world, and I live near it.
They aren't going to drop a nuke or two, like we did with Japan, but the USSR would have showered my area with multiple missles with multiple warheads. There would be a flash, and I would have no more worries.
When I explained to my 7th grade science teacher why I didn't participate in the drill, he accepted my explanation, and we had no further drills. Surviving the initial blast is a matter of blind luck. Surviving after that is a matter of getting out of the radiation zone. Our chances were next to none to begin with.
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Breaking News: Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed an order that recognizes Crimea as a sovereign state, Russian media reports, after the region voted to break off from Ukraine.
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Yeah, and in the mist of all that - I doubt being under a 5lb desk made of particle board is going to help much. I guess if it truly happened, I'd wanna see it before my end came.
Creepy to think about those times though. I was still very young when it ended early 90's. Country's with their fingers on the launch buttons... not knowing what is to come and what isn't. But if it all starts over b/c some crap-hole like Crimea with bafoons Obama and Putin, then that's no-good... no good at all.
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I guess this is a part of the "change" Obama promised.
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I like how they basically described the newscaster the same way someone would describe Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh to Russians.
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Odd, I don't ever recall Beck or Limbaugh talking about nuking the Russians. This must be your own prejudices.
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Odd, I don't ever recall Beck or Limbaugh talking about nuking the Russians. This must be your own prejudices.
"Kiselyov has earned a reputation as one of Russia's most provocative television news hosts, in particularly with his often blatantly homophobic remarks.
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Odd, I don't ever recall Beck or Limbaugh talking about nuking the Russians. This must be your own prejudices.
Beck on "nuking anyone that doesn't agree with me." Link
I'm fairly sure I could dig up something along those same lines with Limbaugh as well.
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Odd, I don't ever recall Beck or Limbaugh talking about nuking the Russians. This must be your own prejudices.
LOL You are right, they only want to Nuke the White House
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Odd, I don't ever recall Beck or Limbaugh talking about nuking the Russians. This must be your own prejudices.
Beck on "nuking anyone that doesn't agree with me." Link
I'm fairly sure I could dig up something along those same lines with Limbaugh as well.
That sounds bad.
Out of curiosity, would you have a link to the whole segment that contained that? I've checked and I can't find it.
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true enough. more so in other countries.
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exactly, the UK can as well. so does other nuclear countries. and putin would be sorely mistaken if he thinks China will back him.
and the sad part is that we the least stable leader is the one that can start it all. our safety is what the least stable thinks. just spooky if you ask me.
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http://archive.glennbeck.com/archives/05-11-06.shtmlProbably in archive 3. I love how people say that Obama is not respected internationally and then international reports cite Republicans bad talking Obama. Funny how that works. But I still don't see the big deal about this.
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Yeah - looks like you need to be a beck subscriber to get that. I am not a subscriber. Any place else I can hear (we can hear) the whole bit about blowing up Iran?
Or, did the person that posted that just do a search for inane statements and post that? I'm asking - I don't know.
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I'm fairly sure I could dig up something along those same lines with Limbaugh as well.
That sounds like a facetious comedy bit.
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Putin a better president than Obama: Romney http://nypost.com/2014/01/25/putins-a-better-president-than-obama-romney-says/and Fox news hyped that up with all there peoples agreeing and such. THATS what pisses me off. more love for the enemy than our own president.
I think you need to take the emotion out of it. By just about any measure you'd care to use, and I think, especially in the court of public opinion, Putin has appeared to run circles around Obama. Obama's "threats" appear empty, while Putin just seems to do whatever he wants. Is that fair? Probably not, but I think it's the perception. The reality of the situation is that Ukraine and Crimea are much more important to Russia than they are to the US or even the EU. I have no trouble believing Russia would go to war over it, but I don't think we would. And I'm not faulting us for that, I don't want send you and your buddies over there to get shot at for Crimea.
The President has large amounts of egg on his face over this, and over the way he handled Syria. The other party (Romney et. al) is fully justified in critiquing his performance. I read the article you linked to, and I think it was more about criticizing his performance. He said Putin has been a better president, he didn't say he was a better man. I don't think I would put Putin the category of say, Kim Jung Un, but I have to confess that I haven't met either one. I will say that over the last ten years, Russia has been trying to capture the glory of the Soviet days. Russian media is still tightly controlled, and Putin has basically created a personality cult.
The bottom line is that our President is in a tough situation because we won't go to war with Russia over this, and Putin knows it. Also, western Europe gets much of it's natural gas from Russia, so they don't want to support severe sanctions, and Putin knows this too. So Vlad holds all the cards, and you have to tip your hat to him, he's played the game well.
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Putin could care less about Obama sanctions. MOSCOW (AP) — Russia's President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday approved a draft bill for the annexation of Crimea, one of a flurry of steps to formally take over the Black Sea peninsula. Crimea on Sunday voted overwhelmingly to secede from Ukraine and seek to join Russia. The West and Ukraine described the referendum which was announced two weeks ago as illegitimate. The United States and the European Union on Monday announced asset freezes and other sanctions against Russian and Ukrainian officials involved in the Crimean crisis. President Barack Obama warned that more would come if Russia didn't stop interfering in Ukraine. Russian troops have been occupying the region for more than two weeks. The decree signed by Putin and posted on the official government website Tuesday morning is one of the steps which would formalize the annexation of Crimea. Russia, however, still has a room to back off. The treaty to annex Crimea has to be signed by leaders of Russia and Crimea, approved by the Constitutional Court and then be ratified by the parliament. Putin is set to address both houses of the parliament at 3 p.m. Moscow time (1100 GMT) in a nationally televised speech where he is widely expected to stake Russia's claim on Crimea. Crimea had been part of Russia since the 18th century until Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev transferred it to Ukraine in 1954. Both Russians and Crimea's majority ethnic Russian population see annexation as correcting a historic insult. Ukraine's turmoil, which began in November with a wave of protests against President Viktor Yanukovych and accelerated after he fled to Russia in late February, has become Europe's most severe security crisis in years. http://news.msn.com/world/putin-approves-draft-bill-for-annexation-of-crimea
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Putin a better president than Obama: Romney
http://nypost.com/2014/01/25/putins-a-better-president-than-obama-romney-says/
and Fox news hyped that up with all there peoples agreeing and such.
THATS what pisses me off. more love for the enemy than our own president.
I think you need to take the emotion out of it. By just about any measure you'd care to use, and I think, especially in the court of public opinion, Putin has appeared to run circles around Obama. Obama's "threats" appear empty, while Putin just seems to do whatever he wants. Is that fair? Probably not, but I think it's the perception. The reality of the situation is that Ukraine and Crimea are much more important to Russia than they are to the US or even the EU. I have no trouble believing Russia would go to war over it, but I don't think we would. And I'm not faulting us for that, I don't want send you and your buddies over there to get shot at for Crimea.
The President has large amounts of egg on his face over this, and over the way he handled Syria. The other party (Romney et. al) is fully justified in critiquing his performance. I read the article you linked to, and I think it was more about criticizing his performance. He said Putin has been a better president, he didn't say he was a better man. I don't think I would put Putin the category of say, Kim Jung Un, but I have to confess that I haven't met either one. I will say that over the last ten years, Russia has been trying to capture the glory of the Soviet days. Russian media is still tightly controlled, and Putin has basically created a personality cult.
The bottom line is that our President is in a tough situation because we won't go to war with Russia over this, and Putin knows it. Also, western Europe gets much of it's natural gas from Russia, so they don't want to support severe sanctions, and Putin knows this too. So Vlad holds all the cards, and you have to tip your hat to him, he's played the game well.
how can you say that?
putin in obama are in two different forms of government. putin pretty much has power to do whatever he wants, when he wants.
thats not how our country has EVER worked. our government isn't ran like that. we have a checks and balances system. our president doesn't have half the freedom of power that putin and past presidents in russia do.
i hate when people compare the two when its not even remotely the same.
could you imagine how MORE crazy the stuff our presidents would do have they have damn near absolute power like putin? putin's antics right now would be the least of our problems.
hell, it still is.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
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Reminds me of the Three Stooges.. Does the deer have any doe,, Yeah, two bucks LOL
Or my all time favorite, What do you want for breakfast? I'll have burnt toast and a rotten egg. I have a tape worm and that's good enough for him
Which costs more, beer nuts or deer nuts?
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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So Crimea wants this, Russia wants this... based on the historical borders until 1954; I don't see the problem. I think Putin is a jackass, but why do we need to put our nose into everything? That makes us jackasses.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but let's say Obama gave Hawaii to Japan. 50 Years pass and Hawaii has a vote and doesn't want to be part of Japan but wants to be part of the USA again. Would we be up in arms about them rejoining us? Would it . us off if Russia got in the way? So I kind of see it like that. UNLESS I'm missing something.
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