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http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...6d-2161d68de923Brian Hoyer: ‘There hasn’t been an offseason for me’ Posted Apr 16, 2014 Kevin Jones Staff Writer @Mr_KevinJones Facebook Browns quarterback training extremely hard Hoyer's work ethic is unmatched It’s nearing 1 p.m. on a weekday at the Cleveland Browns practice facility in Berea. Most of the players have trickled out to the parking lot. Some are finishing a gourmet lunch in the cafeteria. Quarterback Brian Hoyer is still working. “There hasn’t been an offseason for me this year,” Hoyer said with a smirk. Standing one-legged on a balance beam, Hoyer catches a heavy-medicine ball being tossed at him by a trainer. He pauses for a moment, whispering what appears to be advice to one of his young receivers. Our interview is delayed so he can get some extra throwing reps in. Media members who cover the team will point to the veteran free agent signings as the reason why Cleveland feels so upbeat about their beloved “Brownies,” when actually, it starts with Hoyer. “We are trying to change the culture around here,” said Hoyer. “And that’s a long process. It’s not going to happen overnight. I think guys are really open to it.” A big part of the reason Hoyer’s teammates seem to be following his lead is because of what he showed briefly last season. Replacing Brandon Weeden in the starting lineup, Hoyer charmed Clevelanders with back-to-back wins in late September. The fourth quarter is where the Ohio-native shined, boasting a 117.3 QB rating. With seven seconds left against the Vikings, Hoyer lobbed a game-winning pass to Jordan Cameron in the back-corner of the end zone, capping off an 11-play, 55-yard drive. A week later against the Cincinnati, Hoyer protected the football, throwing two touchdowns and zero interceptions in an ugly 17-6 slugfest win over the Bengals. Just when signs were pointing towards the Browns turning the corner, Hoyer tore his ACL against the Bills and a promising season unraveled at the seams. “Starting was something I had waited for, for a long time,” said Hoyer, 28, who bounced around with the Patriots and Cardinals before landing in Cleveland. “I tried to make the most of it. Unfortunately it kind of got taken away from me due to the injuries. I’m out here working hard looking forward to getting back out onto the field and picking things up where I left off,” Hoyer said. So what now? Other than Hoyer, the only quarterback on the Browns’ roster is Alex Tanney, who has never taken an NFL snap. While Hoyer is on the mend, the Browns, at the very least, will need depth at his position when minicamps begin. Or even more likely, direct competition to his starting job. Hoyer knows this. “I’m not looking for anything to be handed to me,” Hoyer said. “I’ll compete with whoever it may be. I have full confidence in myself. I think all you can really ask for is a chance.” While others are rightfully vacationing and enjoying their time off before the grind of the 2014 season, Brian Hoyer will be locked in. The rehab workouts will continue. He’ll get acquainted to the terminology of Kyle Shanahan’s playbook, an offense he calls, “so versatile.” Quietly, his September performances and work ethic to recover from his ACL surgery, may have been the start of the culture change in Berea.
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The fourth quarter is where the Ohio-native shined, boasting a 117.3 QB rating. With seven seconds left against the Vikings, Hoyer lobbed a game-winning pass to Jordan Cameron in the back-corner of the end zone, capping off an 11-play, 55-yard drive. A week later against the Cincinnati, Hoyer protected the football, throwing two touchdowns and zero interceptions in an ugly 17-6 slugfest win over the Bengals.
This tells more than anything. Weeds, nor any of our other QBs, ever did anything like that. I understand the sample size is tiny. But, it's still better than any of the myriad number of QBs since our return.
I'm comfortable starting him this season. Let whoever we pick as a QB ride the pine for a few years until Hoyer fades out.
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Right or wrong, I always seem to wanna pull for the local kid. Not sure if that's realistic or not in this case. Looks as if we're going to find out soon enough.
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I'm all for the kid being a Cinderella story but please oh please draft QB early in the draft. I like the kid but there's a Holcomb 2.0 quality to him IMO. Here's hoping I'm wrong. 
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I'm all for the kid being a Cinderella story but please oh please draft QB early in the draft. I like the kid but there's a Holcomb 2.0 quality to him IMO. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
Oh Absolutely.. Draft someone and let them fight it out in camp..
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Holcomb and Hoyer literally possess no similarities. Holcomb never made quick decisions, infatuated himself with the long ball, and lacked poise in the 4th quarter.
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Holcomb and Hoyer literally possess no similarities. Holcomb never made quick decisions, infatuated himself with the long ball, and lacked poise in the 4th quarter.
I disagree. Issue with Holcomb was he never elevated his game. If Hoyer is as good as Holcomb's early game and improves, I believe we have a franchise QB.
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I like the way Hoyer presented himself on the field, but I do have some really major concerns. Hoyer had 3 INT in the game against Monnesota. The Vikings had only 12 for the entire season. They also allowed 37 TD passes last year, so they were about as far from being a passing defensive juggernaut as possible.That was his 1st game starting though. We played the Bengals with 3/4 of their starting secondary on the bench with injuries. We should have had a good passing game performance against them, and we had a solid one. The defense controlled that game, and the offense did just enough to win. Obviously Hoyer also played against the Bills for a short period of time. All in all, I do like the way that Hoyer took control of the team when he got on the field. I love the way he got the team fired up and excited to play. I like the way he handled the team at the LOS, and how he made largely accurate short passes. That is what Tom Brady does, and it can work t win big. That said, I don't really have a good feeling for what Hoyer can do in an entire season. Man I wish that he had gotten more exposure last year. He could suck ..... he could be great ....... and most likely he'll be somewhere in the middle of the 2. Hopefully if he is in the middle, it's the middle closer to the top.  I do think that Pettine should have some idea what he's looking at with Hoyer, because he had to break him down heading into our game against the Bills last year. It would be nice to have someone great fall into our lap fo once. We've tried everything to try and find a QB ..... it would be incredible if we wound up with a great one off of waivers. I still want us to draft a QB in the 1st though.
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Of course we all root for Hoyer because he simply brings out some hope for us. And the "hometown boy" angle is always nice!  I think you did a great job pointing out the reasons many of us also have some reservations as to how this will play out. It was a very small body of work against, as you pointed out, some very questionable situations. At this time it would be impossible for me to give a big  just as it would be impossible for me to give a big  There's simply too many questions left unanswered to know what we have in Hoyer. But here's hoping for the best!
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I think YTowns stats are misleading. Anyone who watched the games knows what Hoyer brought to the table. Use stats all you want..............my eyes told me something different.
And if you want stats................we were 2 and 0 in his two full games. I would say that is the most important stat, especially since we won only 4 all year.
I like Hoyer. Not because he is a hometwown kid, but because he is an underdawg and he has worked hard. I root for guys like that. However, his body of work is too small. Hard to believe in him as our savior.
With that said, we better pray that he is the man, because I am beginning to believe that our current regime doesn't have a clue about QBs.
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Well, in all fairness, ytown is not a good qb evaluator. That is and was obvious by his backing Weeden from top to bottom.
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All i know is when Hoyer was in i had that old time feeling that we had a chance to win. I just knew it. Not felt that since Couch. My gut says he is a QB who can will his team to win no matter what adversity he faces once he knows his system inside and out.
I think his physical attributes are all mediocre to be honest. But its his mental toughness and desire that excites me. I still want us to get Jimmy G though no matter what.
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With that said, we better pray that he is the man, because I am beginning to believe that our current regime doesn't have a clue about QBs.
then by logic we are screwed.... if they know nothing about QB's and are banking on Hoyer to be the QB, then it stands to reason that Hoyer is not the answer.
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I like Hoyer and everything he stands for. For once I got a feeling we have a guy who will not be a flash in the pan. don't know if he will be a franchise guy, but I got a feeling he could be a steadying force for the offense.
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LOL..............not exactly how I meant that. But, if history is any indicator, then yes.................by logic, we are probably screwed. 
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Look, I hope that Hoyer is the absolute best that any of us hope for. That would be the best outcome for us, because we would have him, and a young QB to develop behind him.
However, it is true that the Vikings had every reason to expect that the Browns were prepared to give up following the Trent Richardson trade. It was all that any major sports organization reported. "It's week 3, and the Browns have gone into give up mode, They have traded Trent Richardson."
If anyone thinks that this kind of thing doesn't have an impact on a team, they're nuts. Football players are human. When you hear that another team has been dealt what appears to be such a devastating blow on the personnel side, you can't help but let down just a bit. The Vikings had come into that game 0-2, and had to think that they were in line for their 1st win of the year.
I have said that I thought that Hoyer played much better in the game against the Bengals, but that doesn't change the fact that they were missing 3 members of their secondary, including both corners.
If you feel comfortable anointing him under those circumstances, then that's your choice. I want to see more before I do so.
I like what Hoyer brought to the game, and have said that. I wish that we could have seen him play for more than the couple of games that he did. If he had, then we would have a much better idea of what he can actually do.
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It could just be me, but from reading both of you, I don't think you're actually that far off in your opinions.
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It's the same argument both ways.
We haven't seen enough of Hoyer to say he is or is not a quality NFL Starting QB...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Am I wrong or does Brian Hoyer have only 2 and a half games in his Career!
How are you supposed to put stock in that.
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There's simply too many questions left unanswered to know what we have in Hoyer. But here's hoping for the best!
The BEST of the Best would be he is our long-term #2 QB.
Get Bridgewater, Bortles or Manziel in town and I'm telling you we are playoff bound for a LONG TIME!
All 3 of these guys are WINNERS and CLUTCH. Their game film shows it. I don't care how much these media pee-ons pick these guys apart for the next month.
Stay away from Carr. That pocket presence of his and skiddish movement is a recipe for disaster.
And screw trying to make guys like Garoppolo, Mettenberger, McCarron and Murray a starting QB in this league. GO WITH THE TALENT!
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The same way people put stock in people that haven't played a down in the NFL?
NO ONE is saying he IS "The Guy"
Some would just like to see him be given a shot to prove, or disprove it..
But if a rookie can come in and beat him out, so be it.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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NO ONE is saying he IS "The Guy"
Some would just like to see him be given a shot to prove, or disprove it..
But if a rookie can come in and beat him out, so be it.
There we have it. Every argument about Hoyer and drafting a QB...any QB...should be required to have that post as the post signature.
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Of course we all root for Hoyer because he simply brings out some hope for us. And the "hometown boy" angle is always nice! Besides all that...I root for him cause he just is the best QB I've seen darn a Browns Jersey since 1999.
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Of course we all root for Hoyer because he simply brings out some hope for us. And the "hometown boy" angle is always nice!
Besides all that...I root for him cause he just is the best QB I've seen darn a Browns Jersey since 1999.
Garcia was probably the best QB we've had, but we tried to fit a square peg in a round hole.. Rarely works..
But I like Hoyer. He brings fire. Is that enough? We'll see..
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I think Garcia pretty much stunk it up here in Cleveland, but Couch and Holcomb were both good that one playoff year (2002?), and Derek Anderson was pretty darn good in 2007 (@Cinci game aside). I'd put Hoyer's limited time last year on par with Couch / Holcomb's performances that year and a little behind DA's in '07.
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Quietly, his September performances and work ethic to recover from his ACL surgery, may have been the start of the culture change in Berea.
This is a pretty powerful statement.
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Just an opinion,, nothing wrong with you thinking what you think.. but from the perspective of having done it successfully in more than 2 games, Garcia was better
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If you feel comfortable anointing him under those circumstances, then that's your choice. I want to see more before I do so.
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I just disagree w/how you used stats to make your claim. Then, you make stuff up about the Vikings not trying because TRich was traded. Come on, man. Their offense had a big day. Did they only NOT try on one side of the ball?
Many of us saw a qb who made quick decisions. Many saw the energy of the entire team increase. Many saw he made clutch throws when we really needed him to make those throws. Many even noticed how his arm was hit on one of the picks. Many of us saw him never get down and become the Master of the 3 and Outs. We saw a guy who gave life to a lifeless franchise.
But again..............his body of work is too small. That is why I think we draft a QB at number 4!
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I think YTowns stats are misleading. Anyone who watched the games knows what Hoyer brought to the table. Use stats all you want..............my eyes told me something different.
And if you want stats................we were 2 and 0 in his two full games. I would say that is the most important stat, especially since we won only 4 all year.
I like Hoyer. Not because he is a hometwown kid, but because he is an underdawg and he has worked hard. I root for guys like that. However, his body of work is too small. Hard to believe in him as our savior.
That pretty much mirrors my thoughts on Hoyer. It is a small body of work to go by, but he was the first QB we have had that I felt in each of those games he played we could win, even when we were down to the Vikings. Every other QB I've always just waited for them to screw up and they rarely proved me wrong lol.
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Am I wrong or does Brian Hoyer have only 2 and a half games in his Career!
How are you supposed to put stock in that.
But let's put stock in a prospect that has no games of NFL experience?
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There's simply too many questions left unanswered to know what we have in Hoyer. But here's hoping for the best!
The BEST of the Best would be he is our long-term #2 QB.
Get Bridgewater, Bortles or Manziel in town and I'm telling you we are playoff bound for a LONG TIME!
All 3 of these guys are WINNERS and CLUTCH. Their game film shows it. I don't care how much these media pee-ons pick these guys apart for the next month.
Stay away from Carr. That pocket presence of his and skiddish movement is a recipe for disaster.
And screw trying to make guys like Garoppolo, Mettenberger, McCarron and Murray a starting QB in this league. GO WITH THE TALENT!
This is our chance. DO IT.
Perhaps my intuition is off, I don't know, but I have a suspicion they are going to draft Carr. (Ut-oh?)
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Derek Anderson actually made a Pro Bowl.
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I think YTowns stats are misleading. Anyone who watched the games knows what Hoyer brought to the table. Use stats all you want..............my eyes told me something different.
And if you want stats................we were 2 and 0 in his two full games. I would say that is the most important stat, especially since we won only 4 all year.
Sorry Vers, but I think these are things YTown posted that are very helpful in trying to be objective.......
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They also allowed 37 TD passes last year, so they were about as far from being a passing defensive juggernaut as possible.That was his 1st game starting though.
We played the Bengals with 3/4 of their starting secondary on the bench with injuries. We should have had a good passing game performance against them, and we had a solid one. The defense controlled that game, and the offense did just enough to win.
All of these things are factual and tell a story.
I like Hoyer too and see some of the very same things you do. But I try to look at an entire picture and not in only one direction.
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I already said we should draft a qb.
YTown is trying to paint a one-sided picture w/his use of the stats and other information. He is not giving Hoyer any credit at all.
To each their own, but I think that is BS.
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I already said we should draft a qb.
YTown is trying to paint a one-sided picture w/his use of the stats and other information. He is not giving Hoyer any credit at all.
To each their own, but I think that is BS.
Let's see ..... I said:
I like the way Hoyer presented himself on the field, but I do have some really major concerns.
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All in all, I do like the way that Hoyer took control of the team when he got on the field. I love the way he got the team fired up and excited to play. I like the way he handled the team at the LOS, and how he made largely accurate short passes. That is what Tom Brady does, and it can work t win big. That said, I don't really have a good feeling for what Hoyer can do in an entire season. Man I wish that he had gotten more exposure last year. He could suck ..... he could be great ....... and most likely he'll be somewhere in the middle of the 2. Hopefully if he is in the middle, it's the middle closer to the top.
Now if you think that is one sided in a negative manner, and BS ...... then I don't know what to tell you. 
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Happy Birthday my friend....
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Cake?...did someone say cake?...
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