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Who thought having your pick of any quarterback in 2014 NFL Draft would be hard for Cleveland Browns? | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/04/who_thought_having_your_pick_o.htmlBEREA, Ohio -- A franchise in desperate need of a quarterback can have its pick of any in the 2014 NFL Draft. Two months ago such a proposition would have seemed as delightful as it was improbable. Two weeks before the first choice is made the scenario is not only plausible, but potentially troublesome to Browns’ decision makers. When the hype surrounding the latest crop of quarterbacks began to percolate in February some assumed Central Florida’s Blake Bortles and Texas A&M’s Johnny Manziel, along with South Carolina defensive lineman Jadeveon Clowney, would be off the board by the time the Browns selected at No. 4. The club would have to choose between Louisville’s Teddy Bridgewater and prospects such as Clemson receiver Sammy Watkins and Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack. That still might be the case when the general managers of Houston, St. Louis and Jacksonville – teams picking ahead of the Browns -- are forced to show their cards in America’s favorite televised poker game on May 8. But what if Browns GM Ray Farmer goes on the clock with the three talented and flawed quarterbacks all available? What if Watkins and Mack, two players who could help the franchise fill other playmaking roles, are gone through a pick or trade? It would represent a tricky situation for a rookie general manager armed with lots of picks and, judging by the organization’s track record, little time to turn it around. Farmer enjoyed a decent start to his tenure in free agency, adding respected veterans on defense, bolstering the running game, building depth at receiver and retaining All Pro center Alex Mack for at least two seasons. His first year, however, will be defined on what he does May 8 with the Nos. 4 and 26 picks. The Browns need a quarterback and logic dictates one of those choices must be a quarterback. But which pick to use and which passer to select? Manziel? Bortles? Bridgewater? Derek Carr? Jimmy Garopollo? Aaron Murray? The decision makers at the top of the draft might as well be juggling porcupines. “None of these guys blow me away,” four-time Super Bowl champion Terry Bradshaw said on WTAM this week. Pressed for an answer, the NFL on FOX analyst chose Manziel, “but not in the first round.” Former Browns coach Sam Rutigliano calls drafting a quarterback the “ultimate crapshoot,” and this year’s field makes the task as challenging as ever. All of the top candidates have legitimate NFL potential. All of them could get his GM fired. Manziel with his lack of size and aversion to staying in the pocket. Bortles with questions about mechanics and readiness to play now. Bridgewater with his slight build and the most talk surrounding a football player wearing gloves since the days of Johnnie Cochran. Adding to the struggle for clarity is the fact the league finds itself in a debate whether the multi-dimensional quarterback is a trend or fad. Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl in his second season. Robert Griffin III was too banged up to finish his second year. There’s no sure thing at any position in a draft. Receivers and pass rushers can go bust just like a quarterback. The consequences for picking the wrong passer seem more punitive, though. Research from The Big Lead shows nine of the 14 general managers who selected quarterbacks in the first round from 2009-13 are no longer in the employ of that franchise. The sum includes Tom Heckert, who missed with Brandon Weeden in 2012. It will be telling what the Houston Texans do with the No. 1 pick. The Texans need a quarterback and new coach Bill O’Brien, formerly of the New England Patriots and Penn State, is as astute as anyone in evaluating the position. Despite a dreadful 2013 season, the Texans have lots of pieces in place for another playoff run. If they pass on a signal caller it carries significant weight. Choosing an offensive tackle (Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews) at No. 4 doesn’t make sense because you have too much money/assets invested in the line. It says here Khalil Mack and Watkins are better at what they do than any of the passers, but quarterback remains the Browns’ greatest need. A year ago, the Browns were wise to pass on E.J. Manuel and Geno Smith, but the thinking was the 2014 class of quarterbacks would be better. And yet here we are ... Pass on those top-tier guys and risk one of them becoming a star. Choose the wrong one and risk becoming another unemployed GM. You can argue nothing about these quarterbacks has changed since season’s end, but we all know draft stocks plummet and soar (hello, Tom Savage) in the draft buildup. In two weeks, a team searching for a franchise quarterback could have its pick of the lot. Somehow, that proposition seemed much more appealing in February.
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Nice read.
The thing is the teams drafting near the top are the ones needing a QB, and we come around again at 26....and we can move up from there if need be.....#26 and our 2nd moves us up a pretty good amount.
I think we trade up a few times in this draft. We may have 10 picks, but we probably only end up with 6 players drafted.
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Having nothing to base what this new regime will do based on their history, it will be a very interesting draft to me. I'm not saying you're wrong with your thinking, I just have zero evidence how, or in what direction they will take. I do like the idea of trading up in a deep draft where we could end up with less players, but of much higher quality though. Sounds great to me! Even after telling Dj I thought he was trading up too much in his mock. After having time to consider it, I changed my mind on that one. 
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Shoot, I still haven't decided what I want Farmer to do yet...
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They have to take a QB. They have to. Decide which one is the best one for the team and go get him. Don't second guess yourself.
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Take Manziel and move on. I've felt this way for weeks and haven't change my mind yet. But that's just my useless opinion, and I don't know anything.
What I can't understand, or buy, or support, is this idea from at least 2 poster on this board, (some of whom I have a lot of respect for), that you should take a guy, but only if you can get him with a later pick.
Because It's been so many years of such blah cheering for the Browns, that I don't care if they make a wrong 1st round pick.
If all of these guys were free agents and you had a chance to sign only one of them, who would you sign, and why?
And to me, it doesn't come down to NOT taking a guy because I don't want to use a top 10 draft pick on him.
Anytime you're on the clock to make a pick, you have your choice of Everyone who's left. So If you are willing to take a player anywhere with any pick, you should be willing to take him with the next pick you have.
And the next pick the Browns have is #4.
But if you take one guy, you don't get the other guy. That's called the opportunity cost, The missed opportunity of not getting Kahlil Mack, or Sammy, or Mike Evans, when you take Bortles or Manziel, is the cost you pay for taking who you take.
You can only improve your team one player at a time, with one pick, unless you have back to back picks. What I'm trying to say is, it's like a microcosim of when the Browns are on the clock, that if the 2014 draft was 1 pick long, the Browns had that pick, it was the 1st only and mr irrelevant, all at the same time.
Who do you take with it to improve the Browns chances.
What if you don't take a Qb at #4, and then the next 11 picks are all Qb's? There is no guarantee that that doesn't happen. That would mean Brian Hoyer is playing a major role in your 2014, or that you are signing someone who someone else doesn't want anymore.
And Qb is the biggest need of the team. This I'm confident in.
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Johnny Manziel is going to be playing somewhere, for some team in this league! He is going to be a starting QB for one of the 32 teams, in much likelihood.
What team do you want him to go to? Kansas City? Cincinnati? ? ?
Didn't this guy win the Heisman. Didn't he beat Alabama? He's not going to be a David Klingler type.
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I'm riding the Hoyer bandwagon, do not draft a QB at 4, do not trade 26 or 35. See what comes to us and don't reach, this is a deep draft and we have chips. 
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I don't like any QB enough to waste #4. Be patient and see what drops near #26. If we want to jump a bit then go for it, but don't reach at #4.
I'd be cool grabbing a QB in the 2nd round.
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I agree with this ...... particularly because the need is so dire. I have said that if I were in charge I would draft a QB at least every other year (not necessarily in the 1st every year, but high nonetheless) until I find my guy. No team wins consistently until they find a plus level QB. Keep taking shots until we find the right guy. QB is the one position you can almost never fill in free agency, (with a top level guy) and rarely through a trade.
If no other team takes a QB in 1-3, then great. We get our choice of players. Grab the guy we like best, and don't look back. Don't take risks here, and don't play games. Get the guy we feel is best suited to help turn this franchise around, and start getting ready for 26.
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^ This! I think one or more of the top QB's will be available at 26. I like Manziel and Bortles... but I love the thought of Watkins opposite Gordon.
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I agree with this ...... particularly because the need is so dire. I have said that if I were in charge I would draft a QB at least every other year (not necessarily in the 1st every year, but high nonetheless) until I find my guy. No team wins consistently until they find a plus level QB. Keep taking shots until we find the right guy. QB is the one position you can almost never fill in free agency, (with a top level guy) and rarely through a trade.
If no other team takes a QB in 1-3, then great. We get our choice of players. Grab the guy we like best, and don't look back. Don't take risks here, and don't play games. Get the guy we feel is best suited to help turn this franchise around, and start getting ready for 26.
I'm with you, man. It's time.
We need to take Farmer, Pettine and Shanahan and have the 3 of them come to a decision on who they believe will be the best QB for this Offense. And take him at 4. Don't get cute. We've had all of these guys in for visits. We've seen all the film. We like one or more of them. There's zero doubt about that. The media p-ons are the ones dropping guys down boards, NOT NFL Front Offices.
You guys wanting to wait to see who drops to 26 could be in for a rude awakening.
Countless teams have an aging QB and would love to have a QB in the waiting for a couple of years. Or a QB they just aren't sure of.
Oakland
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Minny (Ponder)
Tenn (Locker)
Pittsburgh (Berger's gotten his ass beaten to a pulp the past 3 years)
Arizona (Palmer)
KC (Smith)
SD (Rivers)
NE (Brady)
Denver is a HUGE one
AT WORST I'd sell Watkins to Tampa and take Bridgewater right there. I would not go any further down, IF EVEN THAT.
Then get him another WEAPON for this Offense. This draft is so deep in Top 40 pick WR's it's almost crazy. One will be there at 35. Mathews.
If we can come out of this draft with this, it would be a serious step toward long term playoffs virtually immediately.
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Disagree. Sounds pretty moronic to me.
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^ This! I think one or more of the top QB's will be available at 26. I like Manziel and Bortles... but I love the thought of Watkins opposite Gordon.
The problem is that history shows that 1, 2 or all 3 of the top 3 guys aren't going to be good. It's just statistically not going to happen that all 3 are going to be good NFL QBs. It's possible that 1 or 2 of them will be good. So it's not like you just wait for which ever one of them falls to fall. We have to make a proactive choice and take the action. That may even mean trading up which I don't love but we gotta get the guy we believe can be "the guy". Can't wait for Andrew Luck sure thing years. Next year isn't that kind of year. So what are we gonna do? Continue to wait and hope people fall to wherever we pick?
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“None of these guys blow me away,” four-time Super Bowl champion Terry Bradshaw said on WTAM this week. Pressed for an answer, the NFL on FOX analyst chose Manziel, “but not in the first round.”
I've been saying this for months. This is the weakest draft class we have seen in a while. There is no superior talent that is ready to take a snap year one. After a year on the bench, they will be more NFL ready.
I'm Glad more and more people are saying the same things in interviews.
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I have and still want Bridgewater. I'm not as big on "work out warriors" as I am on players. He doesn't have the strongest arm, but unlike so many try to indicate, it's plenty strong enough. He has what every bust QB we've had doesn't have.
He's football smart. Goes through progressions, can read the opposing D, looks off the safety and makes smart decisions. I don't care about his pro day, I care about how he played the game. I want a QB who is mobile, but doesn't depend on that mobility in his game plan.
Like many, I like Hoyer, but it was two games. Minny's pass D only had 12 INT's all year. Three were against Hoyer. Cincy had I believe three starters in their secondary sidelined with injuries. I'm not trying to minimize what he brought to those games, just pointing out the circumstances I consider going forward.
To me those circumstances dictate we still don't know that we have an answer at QB. And even if we do, has a team ever considered it a problem having 2 good QB's?
The QB position is the one single position that can do the most to turn a team around. And despite all of the draftnicks and double talk, I believe Bridgewater will be the best of this draft class and the most qualified QB in this draft class bar none.
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I've been saying this for months. This is the weakest draft class we have seen in a while. There is no superior talent that is ready to take a snap year one. After a year on the bench, they will be more NFL ready.
I'm Glad more and more people are saying the same things in interviews.
He's only expressing what most GMs and team front offices have quietly been saying for months.
Of course, the Browns (it was reported) used 11 of their 30 visits & workouts on QBs. I think it's just to gauge where (which round outside the 1st) they would take them. I really don't think that the Browns have any intentions on taking a QB in the first round. None. They will be looking in the 2nd, maybe 3rd or even 4th round before they select a QB.
To me, it seems like they may be considering a trade back and acquiring more selections. I would love for them to take Khalil Mack at #4 (if he's available) and then trade back from #26 if necessary and acquire more mid-round selections.
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I don't see how you trade back for more picks with already having 10. You have new coaches, new systems and wish to integrate 13 or 14 rookies?
I would think moving up in later rounds to end up with 6-8 rookies drafted would be more likely if we do much of any trading at all.
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I don't see how you trade back for more picks with already having 10. You have new coaches, new systems and wish to integrate 13 or 14 rookies?
I would think moving up in later rounds to end up with 6-8 rookies drafted would be more likely if we do much of any trading at all.
No, you don't have to integrate 13 or 14 rookies. It would be a good problem to have though.
You get the selections because you don't know how many of them you are going to hit on. You accumulate them to improve your chances of hitting on players in the draft. You don't reduce your chances.
The Browns, two years ago, gave up 3 additional selections to move up one spot and get Trent Richardson (who would have been there anyway). Then they drafted Brandon Weeden with the #22 selection. They MISSED in a big way on both.
It's true, they got a 1st rounder back for Richardson (but still lost out on three other selections) and got nothing back from Weeden. Nothing. If you ask me, there were 4 completely wasted selections (Weeden and the additional picks surrendered for Richardson) and a yet to be known recovery from that 2012 draft. I remember what the arguments were then - the same as you're saying now. What could you do with 13 selections (which is what the Browns started with)? Well, you can compensate somewhat for totally missing on wasted selections like Richardson and Weeden.
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"They have to take a QB. They have to. Decide which one is the best one for the team and go get him. Don't second guess yourself.
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Maybe you are just trying to make a joke....cool.....I consider Vers a friend. We may not always agree on things, but I will always try to keep things respectful.
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I hear you, my draft strategy is probably a bit of a defeatist attitude. Just because we need a QB does not mean we need to draft one at 4. I think one of the tackles are probably the most "safe" pick. I think the " safest route " for Browns contention is don't take a QB at 4, and keep the picks.
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Thanks. But, if I would have replied to him.............DC, YTown, and others would say I was wrong because the guy was only adding to the discussion.
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Yes, we have to take a QB but IMHO NONE of them are worth it at #4.
Whenever you draft according to need before actual ability then you always get burned.
I think several if not most of them are worth a mid to late first round pick. I don't think any of the so called top 4 QBs are anything close to a sure thing.
Take the BPA at 4 then take which ever of these project QBs they like best at 26. Taking project QBs at 4 when there are sure fire prospects we KNOW will improve our team is a recipe for disaster.
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Maybe you are just trying to make a joke....cool.....I consider Vers a friend. We may not always agree on things, but I will always try to keep things respectful.
How have you been? I haven't seen you around in a while. Well I hope.
Good.. thanks! Yea.. was just trying to lighten things up.. seems everyone needs a release around here.
Maybe this extra time for the draft isn't such a good idea...
I just have a good feeling that Farmer and company will hit one out of the park for their first draft... although I look forward to how it plays out here.. 
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jc Jason Butt reporting Aaron Murray to work out for the BrownsIf the Browns elect to pass on a quarterback in the first round, a mid-round target has potentially emerged for them. According to The Cleveland Plain Dealer, former Georgia quarterback Aaron Murray will work out for the Browns on Sunday. This follows a visit Murray took to Cleveland this past Wednesday. "It was a tremendous visit,'' Murray told the Plain Dealer. "I felt like I hit it off very well with coach (Kyle) Shanahan and the other coaches. I really feel like the team is headed in the right direction and there are a lot of positive things going on there. I'd love an opportunity to play for the Browns or any team that's willing to give me a shot.'' Murray is projected to be a mid-round prospect and is coming off of a torn ACL, sustained late during the 2013 season. A four-year starter for the Bulldogs, Murray's 13,166 yards and 121 touchdowns are the best-ever from any quarterback in the SEC. Follow me on twitter: @JasonHButt Smart dude. He knows the Browns represent one of the best situations for him in terms of scheme and depth chart/chance to play. Hey, I mock drafted him, because drafting him makes too much sense. He's THE WCO-style QB in this draft and he impressed me with his situational football. You won't see many other College QBs look off DBs as much as he did. He even looked good to me in his supposedly worst career game vs Mizzou. I would probably be ok with as high as 71 if we don't draft a QB in the 1st, but one of the 4th rounders seems like a good value for him. I'm all for drafting Murray, even if we go QB in the 1st.
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I want us to come away with one of these 5 QBs, and I have them in two tiers.
Tier 1: Manziel, Carr, Bridgewater
Tier 2: Aaron Murray, Stephen Morris
Pretty much anyone else I'd be bummed about: Bortles (mostly because he's got a long way to go and wed have to take him in first half of first round. Not sure he'll ever "get it."), Garoppolo, McCarron, Mettenberger (bad fit for WCO), Savage, Logan Thomas (again WCO non fit)... Just say no please.
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I have no tier 1 this draft, not one QB I 100% believe in, but then again, I never have that conviction with QB prospects. The only one that came close was Roethli, then Gabbert, then Weeden. Hey, batting .333 is considered good, lol
I have Bridgewater and Bortles as my top two, but both are in the Gabbert/Weeden category for me, as in: really like their chances, but they still are boom/bust types. Maybe Teddy less than Bortles.
Tier 3 is Murray's pretty much alone. High floor, system fit, low ceiling type of QB. If you get lucky, you end up with a Drew Brees type. He has the highest "Brees-factor" easily, but he could also become one of the dime a dozen backup overachievers.
The 4th tier are Carr and Morris. Developmental types with the size/arm ratio you look for. Carr should be ahead of Marris though, because of better intangibles and smarts.
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I have no tier 1 this draft, not one QB I 100% believe in, but then again, I never have that conviction with QB prospects. The only one that came close was Roethli, then Gabbert, then Weeden. Hey, batting .333 is considered good, lol
I have Bridgewater and Bortles as my top two, but both are in the Gabbert/Weeden category for me, as in: really like their chances, but they still are boom/bust types. Maybe Teddy less than Bortles.
Tier 3 is Murray's pretty much alone. High floor, system fit, low ceiling type of QB. If you get lucky, you end up with a Drew Brees type. He has the highest "Brees-factor" easily, but he could also become one of the dime a dozen backup overachievers.
The 4th tier are Carr and Morris. Developmental types with the size/arm ratio you look for. Carr should be ahead of Marris though, because of better intangibles and smarts.
Two questions for you:
1 - Did you not have Luck as a tier 1 prospect?
2 - If Murray could potentially be a Drew Brees, how can you say that he has a low ceiling?
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I still maintain that the difference between the top of the draft and the bottom of the draft in terms of QBs.
The difference between Bortles/Manziel/Bridgewater and McCarron/Mettenberger/Garappolo and Shaw/Savage/Murray is just not very big.
these guys are all incredibly similar in terms of quality. I think Manziel stands out as the best, and Bridgewater is close in ability, but neither look like theyre going to have remarkably better careers than guys like Mettenberger, McCarron, Shaw or Savage...
What makes Manziel stand out over Shaw? Their measurables are the same, in fact Shaw ran faster, they both make plays happen with their feet...in Fact Shaw has a better record...and a better TD/INT
What makes Mettenberger better than Savage? Both have big bodies and big arms. McCarron and Bridgewater are similar in that they don't make mistakes...
That's why I think you don't need a QB in the 1st this draft...you can get almost equal quality much much later...That's where I land...if you can get a good QB in the 4th round...why do you need a good QB in the 1st, when we have so many needs and there are some really HIGH quality players at other positions...Watkins is the best WR in the draft...Matthews and Robinson are great OLers, Clowney is a beast, Mack is a beast (though I think Barr will end up better)...
Even at 26...guys like Amaro, Beckham Jr, K Benjamin, Marqise Lee, etc are all great pickups...CJ Mosley, and others...all have a ceiling that is considered higher than guys like Shaw and Savage...
This is actually a GOOD draft to grab guys later at the QB spot...the quality is still there much later...but that goes with them also needing time to adjust...Carson Palmer style...thank goodness we have Brian Hoyer who has been in the league, and has some starting experience.
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1 I did. Everybody and their mom did. I was thinking about QBs the Browns had a Shot at, should have been clearer. Luck really wasn't on anyone's board because he was a Colt weeks if not months before the draft
2 You kind of got me there. I just think he has the best shot to develop that way, but probably not as good even in s best case scenario
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Isn't it just typical, when we have a high pick and the ammo to move up if necessary, there is no clear cut choice to be had at the quarterback position. Why the hell couldn't there be a sure thing QB in this years draft? Damn!
If, as the writer suggests, their first choice is Watkins or Mack and they are gone, I'm thinking we should take either Greg Robinson or Jake Mathews(Bloodline 2.0). That said, if they do roll the dice on tiny John or Bortles I can certainly see why. I think everyone can see how desperate we are for a QB. But drafting out of desperation rarely works and it almost never works for the Browns(Weeden). Taking a less risky player at #4 and rolling the dice a little later in the round would seem prudent. But we shall see. Maybe Bortles, the guy no one is linking to us, will end up a Brown. I sure do hate all this waiting. Moving the draft was another dumbass decision. As if the hype surrounding the draft wasn't sufficient before.... hurry up and get here already.
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Isn't it just typical, when we have a high pick and the ammo to move up if necessary, there is no clear cut choice to be had at the quarterback position.
Teddy is the clear cut pick. Sick of listening to the manufactured BS. The guy can play. Manziel would also be worth picking. If both are gone, I would take Bortles.
We are NOT in a bad position. People are whacked when evaluating this class. We are in a good position and should end up w/our franchise qb.
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I'm riding the Hoyer bandwagon, do not draft a QB at 4, do not trade 26 or 35. See what comes to us and don't reach, this is a deep draft and we have chips.
I totally agree. I believe that Hoyer and trading a mid-round pick for Glennon would be better than drafting any of these QBs with our picks. JMHO Go Brownies!!!
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Isn't it just typical, when we have a high pick and the ammo to move up if necessary, there is no clear cut choice to be had at the quarterback position. Why the hell couldn't there be a sure thing QB in this years draft? Damn!
I hear you. We're one year early with these extra picks.
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Isn't it just typical, when we have a high pick and the ammo to move up if necessary, there is no clear cut choice to be had at the quarterback position. Why the hell couldn't there be a sure thing QB in this years draft? Damn!
here is the reality of it all. Point blank there are two teams needing a QB just as bad as we do. Texans and Jaguars. Picking ahead of us. What makes you think remotely we would have a chance at THE CLEAR CUT CHOICE of a QB standing 3rd in line. Come on lets not get depressed - actually there are two maybe 3 QBs in this realm of things that 5 years from now teams will be kicking themselves in the head for not taking! Lets hope we get one of them!
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What makes you think remotely we would have a chance at THE CLEAR CUT CHOICE of a QB standing 3rd in line.
Eo, I will be mildly surprised if there is a QB selected before #8...
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