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It's not racist because the comment was made about a white guy.
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This is just me personally, if you say most old white (or black) men are racist, i will probably agree with you, and feel it's not really a racist thing to say that..
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The self-righteous NBA completely ignored this little tid-bit: http://articles.philly.com/1995-02-13/sp...-colangelo-jokeI saw it live...it sure didn't sound like a 'joke' to me. I saw the replay of the incident on ESPN. They prefaced the playing of the tape by saying that they would show the clip one time and one time only. I wonder why? If it was a funny, they should have played it over and over. Oh yeah...Barkley was still PLAYING in the NBA at the time.
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The self-righteous NBA completely ignored this little tid-bit:
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I saw it live...it sure didn't sound like a 'joke' to me.
I saw the replay of the incident on ESPN. They prefaced the playing of the tape by saying that they would show the clip one time and one time only.
I wonder why? If it was a funny, they should have played it over and over.
Oh yeah...Barkley was still PLAYING in the NBA at the time.
I would point out that Twitter was not around in 95.
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This is just me personally, if you say most old white (or black) men are racist, i will probably agree with you, and feel it's not really a racist thing to say that..
Fair enough...I find the comment quite offensive.
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Why does that matter here?
Because in 95, or whenever, before the social media boom, things came and went, you didn't have MILLIONS of people talking about it at all ours of the day for weeks...
Maybe Barkley WAS joking around with a friend of his, sure the joke is in poor taste, but hell I've said "This is why I hate White People" at least once in my life, and I'm white...
Sterling obviously WASN'T joking around... I'm not sure he has that ability...
I don't think the two situations are comparable..
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What would happen is a White guy ......joke, no joke, under any circumstances said, "See, That's why I hate Black people"?
Could you imagine the reaction to that one?
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I get the point your making and respect it. But yes, your company, my company..etc can fire you or take some personnel action based on you based on, depending on what/how they find out things about you. Think about how HR departments check your online accounts on you( facebook..etc). So if your ex, significant other put out something on you ,there will be red flags raised. Usually, alot of people in certain industries have ethics clauses.etc, that can get them in situations like these. When Mark Cuban first said this is a slippery close we are going down, I first dismissed it. But then when I thought about it, I was like, we already went down that slope!! Sterling is just a high profile rich guy who just went down that slope!!
thank you  I agree we are headed down the slope
I am very concerned for our children's future and their rights to privacy. I have a 12 year old that I am constantly trying to explain to him how one mistake on the internet will never go away. very difficult to explain.
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Conflicting reports on if Sterling knew he was being recorded or not. But if he apologized for his words AND his past racist/bigoted actions over these years, it would be a start!
But of course, his actions have been as terrible or worse than his words.
BTW -> you can spare the Sterling got recorded pity party! He was with his mistress, he did not want to help his mistress with the lawsuit from his wife and mistress got him back!!.. Happens to married men all the time who cheat. No different than a married man whose mistress tells his wife about their actions! Boo - Hoo.. next time, control the mistress or help the mistress or talk the wife out of suing the mistress!!
Thanks.
By the way, just to clarify, I was in NO way attempting a "pity party" for sterling. If it came across that way, I apologize, it was not at all my intent.
I think my post on page 2 - or page 3 - would prove that.
Your point (much later post) about a slippery slope - you're right, we're there. I believe it was Barney Fife that said "Hey, it's the world we live in."
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I am constantly trying to explain to him how one mistake on the internet will never go away.
Teacher or parent to child: "Well... THIS is going on your 'permanent record'.... "
Struck fear into the hearts of countless generations of kids.
2014: nonexistent, now that there really is a 'permanent record.'
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Which is one of the reasons that FB is going to have to change or die... kids don't use it because there are other social media ways to communicate that leave little to no digital footprint unless somebody makes the effort to copy what you wrote immediately after you posted it.
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FB is investing in a few technologies mostly financed by stock options. They're pretty much dead in the water as is. College kids and high school kids don't use it anymore and it's just a bubble waiting to be popped. But they'll probably come out like bandits if Whatsapp takes off.
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Yeah, so apparently Sterling has cancer now... er, had cancer before.. But it's coming out now...
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Here comes the slippery slope. web page An excerpt from the article: Sports writer Charles Pierce wondered on PBS “what does [NBA Commissioner] Adam Silver now do, for example, with the DeVos family in Orlando, which funds anti-gay candidates and anti-gay issue ads all over the country, as well as owning the Orlando Magic? Does he talk to them? This is an entirely new world, and if we’re going to step into it, let’s step all the way into it.” And. “While a racist in their midst deservedly gets the boot,” Craig Crawford writes at the Huffington Post, “the NBA and its players paid no attention when one of its owners gave half a million dollars to an anti-gay group, defended it and, despite a tepid boycott effort, went along his merry way without any consequence.”
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I will point out that, I didn't know about that...
Haven't heard ANYTHING about that..
Weird.
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I will point out that, I didn't know about that...
Haven't heard ANYTHING about that..
Weird.
78% of the NBA players are black, less than 1% are openly gay.. not that hard to understand.
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78% of the NBA players are black, less than 1% are openly gay.. not that hard to understand.
It's not about percentages, it's about the thought police being active in our world. If your opinion does not agree with theirs, you should be shunned by the world and removed from life. They are looking to take away a team from a Christian person because his beliefs tell him that homosexuality is wrong, and since he is not for their perceived rights, he's obviously a bigot and deserves to be condemned and stripped of all rights and property.
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DeVos, the co-founder of Amway, has donated to Focus on the Family, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, the Heritage Foundation, and other traditionalist groups. He also has generously supported measures aimed at maintaining marriage as a one-man, one-woman institution, calling “respecting marriage” a “sacred issue.” This outrages SportsGrid writer Jake O’Donnell, who wonders whether holding this opinion—codified into law by the majority of states—should be grounds for disqualification in the NBA’s club of owners. “Hey, this isn’t nearly the same thing as Donald Sterling’s recorded hate-rant,”
I disagree.
I think there is a difference between being racist, aka, not wanting someone your with to take pictures with black people..
And believing that marriage is "between a man and a woman"
I don't AGREE with that stance, but I still feel like you're attacking a religious thing. And you can't really do that.
Basically I'm saying being Racist and Anti-Gay are different. While both of them usually come from the way you were raised, I feel like one is religion based, while the other is just a "personal thing" or whatever...
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DeVos, the co-founder of Amway, has donated to Focus on the Family, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, the Heritage Foundation, and other traditionalist groups. He also has generously supported measures aimed at maintaining marriage as a one-man, one-woman institution, calling “respecting marriage” a “sacred issue.” This outrages SportsGrid writer Jake O’Donnell, who wonders whether holding this opinion—codified into law by the majority of states—should be grounds for disqualification in the NBA’s club of owners. “Hey, this isn’t nearly the same thing as Donald Sterling’s recorded hate-rant,”
I disagree.
I think there is a difference between being racist, aka, not wanting someone your with to take pictures with black people..
And believing that marriage is "between a man and a woman"
I don't AGREE with that stance, but I still feel like you're attacking a religious thing. And you can't really do that.
Basically I'm saying being Racist and Anti-Gay are different. While both of them usually come from the way you were raised, I feel like one is religion based, while the other is just a "personal thing" or whatever...
I'm not attacking anything. I'm showing the liberal bias in thoughts. There are two sports reporters in that article that are stating this owner should be investigated as he supports religious organizations. Where does this crap end? Are we all to go to the reeducation camps to have our opinions installed?
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Just have everyone go through the South Park Museum of Tolerance..
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And just who is being intolerant, the person who gives to organizations he believes in, or the person that wishes to take livelihood from him for having a different opinion?
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And just who is being intolerant, the person who gives to organizations he believes in, or the person that wishes to take livelihood from him for having a different opinion?
You're wording it a specific way to skew it.
You could say..
Who's more intolerant, the person who pays money so that certain people aren't given the same rights as him, or the people who don't think he should be in a high profile position..
Same people.. Just worded differently.
And for the record, I agree with neither of them.
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You're wording it a specific way to skew it.
You could say..
Who's more intolerant, the person who pays money so that certain people aren't given the same rights as him, or the people who don't think he should be in a high profile position..
Same people.. Just worded differently.
And for the record, I agree with neither of them.
Actually, I am not wording this a specific way. I honestly didn't sit and ponder over how to pose my question. I just wrote what came to mind.
As for his 'high profile position', he earned his money and bought the team. This man probably provides a living for thousands of people, as he pays or provides opportunity for players, coaches, assistants, trainers, food vendors, clothing vendors, ushers, advertising execs, parking attendants, janitorial staff, building maintenance, and salespeople. Those opportunities are just local to his area. He's an obviously evil man for that one opinion, in spite of all he does to create jobs.
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There are two sports reporters in that article that are stating this owner should be investigated as he supports religious organizations.
You can say that it's religion or religious to hold those beliefs.
Once you start trying to legislate those beliefs, it crosses into discriminating bigotry.
Society has more or less moved on from patronizing the idiocy of the religious and homosexuality.
But these writers are silly to bring up the comparison between what happened with Sterling and ant-gay biases.
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And technically he doesn't create jobs, he's no different than anyone that owns a business. Look at Chik-Fil-A. That guy did the same thing. More people knew about it, so it became a big deal...
I'm not really sure what you're arguing anymore. I don't think the NBA is going to go through and interrogate every owner to see who they hate, and start kicking people out. Something specific happened, and it was dealt with..
Orlando's owner is part of something completely different than what Sterling was..
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I'm not sure how I feel about that...
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And technically he doesn't create jobs, he's no different than anyone that owns a business.
I don't understand what you are saying there...it's way off-topic, so I'm not going to get into details or respond regardless of your answer, but...are you saying that people who own businesses do not create jobs?
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I don't understand what you are saying there...it's way off-topic, so I'm not going to get into details or respond regardless of your answer, but...are you saying that people who own businesses do not create jobs?
He PERSONALLY does not create any jobs, he just bought a business.
And hell as old as he is, I question how much running of the company he does anyways..
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I'm not sure how I feel about that...
I can't tolerate that much tolerance. It's intolerable.
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When this first was reported, one of my immediate thoughts was, How long before the girlfriend ends up in Porn.. Well, that didn't take long LOL http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/02/v-stiviano-porn-offer-vivid-revenge-sex-tape-black-men/
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Exactly. The NBA supports don't ask, don't tell for it's owners.. be as big of a scum bag as you want, just make sure it stays private.. 
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see this is the problem. its like the country only cares about offended us(blacks, minorities), but everything else gets chalked up to "eh, just apologize and all is forgiven".
this guy shouldn't had lost a damn thing, except that gold digging girlfriend he got.
he allowed to hiring of a black coach.
most of his players are black.
they have very nice contracts, get paid nicely.
all minorities have never had an issue buying tickets and getting into the stadium.
so once again, what did he do wrong? how racist can this guy truly be when his girlfriend is what? black and asian or something like that?
man...people need to give it a rest. we got guys in the NBA bringing guns into the locker room, fighting fans in the stadium, etc. and this is the biggest issue?
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Most of your points have been made in the previous 5 pages or so of this thread but you pulled them together well..
The guy is a racist, I'm pretty sure that is accepted by everybody, but apparently in his basketball business he doesn't discriminate.. so he is being punished for something he THINKS and not something he DID.. and that is the slippery slope that has been brought up.... where does that end?
His gf is half black, half latino if I recall
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I said he pays or provides the opportunity. If there was no Orlando Magic, all those jobs would be gone. There are a few thousand people employed just because that team is there.
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And technically he doesn't create jobs, he's no different than anyone that owns a business. Look at Chik-Fil-A. That guy did the same thing. More people knew about it, so it became a big deal...
I said he pays or provides the opportunity. If there was no Orlando Magic, all those jobs would be gone. There are a few thousand people employed just because that team is there.
Not really relevant to the overall subject, but my point in regards to that is that he's an owner of a team. Unless he founded the team from the start, which I don't know, he just bought something that was already running.
If he didn't own Orlando, someone else would. Because that's where the NBA wanted a team.
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They didn't ban him from the NBA because of what he said, they banned him because all playoff teams were not going to play and the NBPA was about go get seriously involved. They banned him as an economic decision, not a moral one.
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