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So we're going to have like 2-3 new threads like this for the next few months?
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The bandwagon will be full soon. Please buy your tickets in advance. Thank you for your support. 
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Welcome AG , HOPE YOUR RIGHT ! We are a bunch of loyal nut case fan base ! 
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Welcome to the board and thanks...excuse them who think their poop don't stink...lol 
 as you can see by my signature (bottom in white) I had that there about 2 months ago
I am very happy and I'm sure the Browns Fans across this US of A is going to love him and his ERA!!!!
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I really was hoping for Teddy, but Manziel was second in line. I am disappointed we didn't take Bridgewater, but I am very happy w/this pick.
Exactly how I feel. We wouldn't of even needed to bargain to get Bridgewater. Ah well, it is what it is now... Johnny Football circus up in Cleveland. I am really banking on the words of Pettine when he indicates fair competition and legit competition. May the best man, or kid - win! The second Johnny thinks he can start running outta pockets and dancing and getting smacked by these linemen or linebackers - he'll learn Johnny Football was a college thing.
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Well, we are now. Even Elfin' Magic couldn't hurt. I mean it's still magic, right?
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I wonder what happened to all the Colt McCoy fans who jumped on... Anyway, congrats on becoming a Browns fan 
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I wonder what happened to all the Colt McCoy fans who jumped on...
I guess I don't understand rooting for a pro team because a player from my favorite college team got drafted. For me it's the opposite. I hate Shazier now. Wish him nothing but the worst. Hyde? Dead to me. Now if a time comes where Shazier ends up a Brown via FA, welcome aboard.
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I remember some McCoy bandwagon people, and some Couch ones.
When those two couldn't cut it, they scattered and blamed the Browns for 'ruining' them.
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I'm kinda with you on that Portland. However, I would root for Hyde unless the 49ers play the Browns. I won't go out of my way to follow Hyde, but Shazier is definitely dead to me.
Sometimes when I watch games that aren't the Browns, I will root for the team with the most Buckeyes on it, unless it's Dallas, Pittsburgh or Baltimore.
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For me college is college. Pro is pro.
I hate the team up north but rooted for Braylon in orange and brown.
You're either a Buckeye or a Brown or I root against you. Period.
Though I guess when watching a game between two other teams on some level I root for the lesser of the two evils. If a Buck happens to be on that team on some level I'll say it's good to see them represent.
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To me, once a player hits the NFL, he's either a member of the Cleveland Browns, or he isn't.
Same thing with guys who leave. When they are no longer Cleveland Browns, then they are the enemy.
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Its always seemed to me that the Browns went out of their way to avoid Buckeyes in the draft. Maybe just a mis-perception on my part, but I recall thinking that a lot over the years. All things being equal (player-wise), you'd think they would welcome the opportunity to flip some Columbus-area fans into the Browns camp. Pitt and Cinci, on the other hand, seem to look for Buckeyes. Its annoying at times.
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I think that they would say that things are rarely equal.
That said, it would be nice to see a Buckeye or 2 on the Team. (we do have Fragel at T though)
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Its always seemed to me that the Browns went out of their way to avoid Buckeyes in the draft. Maybe just a mis-perception on my part, but I recall thinking that a lot over the years. All things being equal (player-wise), you'd think they would welcome the opportunity to flip some Columbus-area fans into the Browns camp. Pitt and Cinci, on the other hand, seem to look for Buckeyes. Its annoying at times.
It does seem that way. It's weird but I almost feel a sense of personal betrayal. Like, "how dare MY Buckeye go play for THAT team!" I felt a sense of disgust and betrayal when Shaziers name got called. I take it personally. I just hate him now like an ex girlfriend. Almost a sense of disgust that I ever liked him. Weird?
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Well, its not like they have a choice ... but I get what you mean. I don't root for any player on our rival teams (Pitt, Cinci, Balt), but I hope Hyde does well - except against us, of course.
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Its always seemed to me that the Browns went out of their way to avoid Buckeyes in the draft. Maybe just a mis-perception on my part, but I recall thinking that a lot over the years. All things being equal (player-wise), you'd think they would welcome the opportunity to flip some Columbus-area fans into the Browns camp. Pitt and Cinci, on the other hand, seem to look for Buckeyes. Its annoying at times.
It does seem that way. It's weird but I almost feel a sense of personal betrayal. Like, "how dare MY Buckeye go play for THAT team!" I felt a sense of disgust and betrayal when Shaziers name got called. I take it personally. I just hate him now like an ex girlfriend. Almost a sense of disgust that I ever liked him. Weird?
I feel the same way. Seems to be the Steelers draft Buckeyes and the Bengals always sign recently cut FA Buckeyes. Browns seem to do neither (except for the ONE highly rated Buckeye I never wanted, Brian Robiskie).
On JFF, I don't think he starts this year, and I'm not advocating him starting this year. This is a huge departure from my thoughts on past 1st round QB's, and here's why:
1) Brian Hoyer. If there's ever a QB who can lead a surprise "Season of Dreams" revival of the Browns, it's Brian Hoyer and unlike Derek Anderson it wouldn't be a fluke (far more accurate). I also don't think there's a better mentor for JFF. If he fails? Start Johnny. Nothing to lose at that point. Bottom line is I don't see this as a "development year." Time to compete for the division, and I don't see Hoyer either as a flash in the pan (Derek Anderson), downright embarrassing (Charlie Frye, Brandon Weeden) or not good (Colt McCoy).
2) JFF does need development in the pocket. Not saying "he'll get killed if he's thrown to the wolves," because I think ultimately he'd figure it out. But I'd rather him develop the right way and be ready when he goes out there.
If Hoyer gets hurt, JFF starts. No question in my mind about that.
As a side note: I wonder how much Kyle Shanahan's offense will resemble "RG3 Shanahan offense" or "standard Shanahan offense." I'm going to assume a hybrid of both because he lacks the top end speed of RG3.
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Well, a least he didn't go to Vegas and stay at the same hotel Ryan Leaf did. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...intcmp=featuresWould've much preferred a guy who went out to an expensive restaurant and celebrated with his mom & dad and wife / fiancée and / or children, but, who knows?????? 
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Its always seemed to me that the Browns went out of their way to avoid Buckeyes in the draft. Maybe just a mis-perception on my part, but I recall thinking that a lot over the years.
It's not like there's a murderer's row of Ohio State players in the NFL to the point where I'd rue us passing on Buckeyes.
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Since the return:
Pittsburgh: Mike Adams (2nd), Cameron Heyward (1st), Thaddeus Gibson (4th), Doug Worthington (7th), Santonio Holmes (1), Rodney Bailey (6)
Cincy: Reid Fragel (7), Dan Herron (6)
Browns: Darnell Sanders (4), Brian Robiskie (2)
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It does seem that way. It's weird but I almost feel a sense of personal betrayal. Like, "how dare MY Buckeye go play for THAT team!" I felt a sense of disgust and betrayal when Shaziers name got called. I take it personally. I just hate him now like an ex girlfriend. Almost a sense of disgust that I ever liked him. Weird?
I still want him to play well.... just hope that his team goes 0-16 every year...
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I'm watching the NFL Network, they have a ticker running along the bottom. I guess the Browns are saying they won't be taking anymore QB's the draft. We'll see.
Yea, they weren't going to take Manziel either. 
I was stunned at the pick..kinda still am..thought for sure Bridgewater was the target..
Shanny must have lobbied hard for him.
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I love Bill Belichick. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foot...scouting-reportLess than 24 hours after Johnny Manziel was drafted by the Cleveland Browns on Thursday, a website called BroBible.com published what was purported to be a leaked scouting report on Johnny Football. The report supposedly came from the Patriots and was filled with a lot of negative things. For instance, the report said that Manziel was 'spoiled' and 'doesn't study the game.' Everything has been pretty well-documented in online articles about the kid, but sources say he's a spoiled brat (grandfather gives him allowance, father bought him luxury car). Doesn't study the game, said to know about 60% of the offense in '12, never watches film; one source said only time he watched film during '12 was before ALUN. The report wasn't all negative though, it did mention that Manziel has "High, knotted calves, with pretty good thickness through the thighs and bubble." It also said that he has "big hands and feet." So that's a plus. The only problem with the scouting report is that it came from a site not exactly known for publishing leaked scouting reports. So did BroBible.com somehow get its hands on a real report? Patriots coach Bill Belichick was asked about the situation on Friday night and issued the most Belichickian non-denial, denial that you'll ever read. In short, he doesn't confirm or deny if the 'Manziel Report' actually came from his team. "With all due respect, I hate to admit this but I don't think I've been online in a couple days or weeks or whatever, so that's not really an important thing to me. I don't even know what's online and what isn't online," Belichick said. "But I would say we probably have, I can't even imagine, 10,000 pages of information. It's a lot of information. There's no way I can sit up here and tell you that I've read it all. I've read a fraction of it. But we have a ton of information on all the players that are in the draft. What's online, you should go talk to the geniuses that are online. I don't know. MyFace, YourFace, InstantFace. Go talk to whoever you want that does that stuff. I don't know." So basically, the answer lies somewhere on MyFace, YourFace and InstantFace, we just have to find it.
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I saw it yesterday..but here's the thing..his boy Lombardi and Banner loved Manziel, and anything in that report has been known about Johnny..HE'S been dissected by everyone...
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Myface, yourface, instantface...classic!
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Just don't go look at Kenny Britt's instagram.  There was a tweet during the draft that he had a rather x-rated video (with him and a woman) on his page.
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Bill Belichick Discusses Leaked Johnny Manziel Scouting Reportby J. Camm on May 10, 2014 Last night, Bill Belichick addressed the Johnny Manziel scouting report that we leaked online. One thing you’ll notice is that the Patriots head coach did not deny the report’s validity. Via It Is What It Is: “Well, with all due respect, I hate to admit this, but I don’t think I’ve been online in a couple days or weeks or whatever, so that’s not really an important thing to me,” he said. “I don’t even know what’s online, and what isn’t online, but I would say we probably have — I can’t even imagine — 10,000 pages of information. That’s a lot of information. There’s no way I’d sit up here and tell you that I’ve read it all. I’ve read a fraction of it, but we have a ton of information on all the players that are in the draft. What’s online, you should go talk to the geniuses that are online. I don’t know. MyFace, YourFace, InstantFace, go talk to whoever you want that does that stuff. I don’t know.”So where does this leave us? It leaves us with Scouting Report Truthers on our front lawn trying to . holes in the report’s validity. I understand the doubt. A site named BroBible isn’t supposed to obtain this kind of information. When we do, people automatically assume it’s fake. So why don’t we go ahead and list all the reasons people think the document is a fabrication. It’ll be a fun, cathartic exercise and we’ll all be better off for having had the experience. The logo is old. You’ve got me there. It is old. They changed the logo in July 2013, which is after this document was originally created. Dismissing it as a valid document based on that makes complete sense, too, because the first thing an NFL scout probably does when such a monumental organizational switch that has no bearing on his job occurs, is put a halt to scouting and go through all of his existing templates and documents to swap out the logo. Kliff Kingsbury is the coach of Texas Tech so the report is OBVIOUSLY BS. Yes, he is. Congratulations on another astute observation. Kingsbury is mentioned in the report, because he was also the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Texas A&M in 2012, the year Manziel won the Heisman and year in which the scouting report mentions him. The Patriots official draft grades look different and more in-depth than those purported on the leaked report. We never claimed the report was their FINAL DRAFT GRADE of Manziel. He visited New England in April, that information is no where on the document. Nor is anything after October of 2013. As Belichick said, “we have a ton of information on all the players that are in the draft.” Is it plausible that this is one piece of the final puzzle, from one scout’s computer, that went into Manziel’s final draft grade? We think so. Primarily because the unchangeable file path of the source document told us so. We paid $5,000 for the report. We did not. In fact, the email sent to Barstool claiming we offered that amount was sent to them four hours before we ever made an offer, and two hours before we even knew the report was being shopped around. BroBible.com
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Of course it's fake. Everyone knows if it was an official Patriots report it would have the Browns logo on it.
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If that's a fake, it's a highly detailed and creative one. And creative in the way of being extremely specific while also lacking sensationalism...which generally isn't the function of forgeries.
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It seems legit until you read about his outlaw bloodlines.
Odd comment.
Who knows and who cares at this point? Time to get behind the guy and figure out what the hell is going to happen with Gordon.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Odd comment.
Who knows and who cares at this point? Time to get behind the guy and figure out what the hell is going to happen with Gordon.
I've done work with evalutations where you see a lot of stuff like that.
I remember one instance specifically where notes for a "scouting report" of a CFO candidate I worked on listed him as being a bit "too Jersey". That stuff usually doesn't make the cut in final evals, but it'll hit the notes.
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I think its a very fair and accurate. Whether its fake or not, everything goes pretty much in line with what I see.
One thing to notice, not once did it say he wasnt NFL caliber talent. So thts good news. Everything mechanically is fixable. Lets hope he gets to work and has and attitude adjustment and wins superbowls
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LOL..........the one pick most are bashing is my favorite pick. Manziel might be a bust. However, he has more upside than any player in this draft. Not one player in this draft or in recent memory has the potential to turn an entire franchise around the way Manziel can.
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It will take more than an attitude adjustment for him to succeed.
He's not exactly Quinn/Weeden territory, but he leans far more in that direction than in a positive one.
With that said, I get the move. One thing about the NFL, if you don't have a QB, you have to pull triggers until you find one.
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