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At least if we get Marquise Lee, we will be getting a good kid with a clean record.

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Something that really makes me mad is that Josh Gordon was on ESPN all day today and they just sprung this on him real quick.

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I wish I could cuss up a storm here, but I'm not getting suspended.

Hot damn am I pissed off though.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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...and this was one of the reasons I wanted the Browns to draft Watkins at #4...insurance in case Gordon failed another test.

I'm not complaining about how the draft worked out, but I believe the Browns need to take the best WR on the board in round 2.






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I overheard the ESPN special at work... Didn't Mort say the browns have known for 2 weeks? Could have sworn I heard that

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Something that really makes me mad is that Josh Gordon was on ESPN all day today and they just sprung this on him real quick.




Would you rather they confront him and make him sweat without confirmation?

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Under policy, when player is facing possible removal from field, owner and high-level execs are informed but prohibited from telling staff




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nobody is going to trade anything good for this drug addict even after his suspension...he is a punk kid who is selfish...get him off this team.....he just sabotaged the season...........took all the wind out of the sails......if this is tre im calling it now...3 maybe 4 wins this season........because i'm telling you josh gordan just caused us about 4-6 wins


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All the wind that came into my sails at 8:00pm last night just left.

I'm now floating aimlessly in a vast ocean of depression.




well said my good friend




That's it. After me hearing about this 18 minutes ago, the wind is back in the sails.

I/we knew this could AND PROBABLY WOULD happen and it did.

Screw the dumbass. I'm well over it............after just 18 minutes of depression. Imo this team with this FO is well on it's way, with or without Gordon.





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yeah but im pretty sure a organization like the NFL has much better methods of testing for this stuff then whoever is testing you......this is the nfl...they are not stupid




It doesn't matter if its the NFL or Joe's Garage. Its an Independent Company doing the testing. It all depends on the type of test (hair, urine, blood, etc).

I question these "sources." The only people that should know are the clinic, Josh and the NFL. If it was leaked by someone other than Gordon, it had to be the NFL or the clinic. In either case, that is garbage to feed ESPN that info. And its not legal to do so.

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Unbelievable, I really hope nobody leapfrogs us for Marquise.

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nobody is going to trade anything good for this drug addict even after his suspension...




Get ready for the phrase "...with the fourth that we got from New England".

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'Josh Gordon reportedly facing up to a year-long suspension for positive drug test'

http://nfl.si.com/2014/05/09/josh-gordon-year-long-suspension-drug-test-cleveland-browns/

History repeats itself. And didn't he once say that he wasn't addicted to pot? Denial always comes first.

Oh, I'm pissed off.

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If this is true .... IT SUCKS!!!


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Rosenhaus just said he was instructed by NFL office not to comment on it


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Well, this sucks.

The front office has known about the failed test for two weeks though, so they must have a plan. There is WR talent left in the draft, plus always the possibility of a trade for a veteran.

No one player the Browns can get will replace Gordon though, and that would have been the case even if Watkins or Evans was drafted at 4. It's gonna have to be a team effort, and with the additions of Tate, Hawkins, and Burleson there are more weapons on this team than last year.

Losing Gordon sucks, and is a huge loss. But it's going to have to be dealt with, and it can be.

It's Cleveland, nothing is ever easy.

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Mortensen said it was confirmed that the FO knew well before last night, but the coaches just found out 90 minutes ago




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Was a huge reason many of us pushed for Watkins. While Gordon was great on the field, there has always been a huge possibility that he would end up in this position. If Farmer knew and still passed on Watkins...disappointed and makes the decision to move down a terrible move.

Knowing your number 1 receiver is gone for the year and still taking a number 2 CB stinks.

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I hope Haslam can spend some green to get Josh out of this mess. It's worked so far with the Feds, might work with the NFL.

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Amari Cooper, come on down!

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Im upset but i am not actually surprised at all..I love Gordon and it is a huge loss but i dont see it as the end of the world..A bit depressing yes but we will get over it. I read earlier that teams are scared of Lee because of his knee..I really dont know though...Stay strong guys lol


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Rope-a-doped again. Not me this time.
How this is not nearing conspiracy level to keep this franchise down is beyond me.

So glad I was not all warm and fuzzy last night.
I can't imagine how mad I would be.
LMAO over 2500 season tickets? LMAO

....sigh....
And here I thought the implosion would not happen until about week 6.
Silly me.

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Something that really makes me mad is that Josh Gordon was on ESPN all day today and they just sprung this on him real quick.




I was thinking the same thing, hes done a few rounds on espn shows for the past couple months. I thought, even today, wow he finally gets it. I'm in the limelight, all,I need to do is stay clean. Nope, how could the browns FO let him parade around national outlets with this looming?


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I can't say I'm stunned because I kind of thought this would happen eventually. He had a problem and relapsed last year, guys like that tend to always stay in trouble. I'm sure living in South Beach didn't help matters.

Oh well. Looks like we'll be drafting two WRs now.


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But it's going to have to be dealt with, and it can be.





Oh we'll deal with it! But we're not going to totally change our draft board. there will be a wr added to the roster, and itcould come from more than one place...


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Something that really makes me mad is that Josh Gordon was on ESPN all day today and they just sprung this on him real quick.




I was thinking the same thing, hes done a few rounds on espn shows for the past couple months. I thought, even today, wow he finally gets it. I'm in the limelight, all,I need to do is stay clean. Nope, how could the browns FO let him parade around national outlets with this looming?




Yeah, he was on SVP&Russilo today. Regardless of who knew in the organization, I'm surprised he put himself out there KNOWING he was about to look like a complete fool.

Welp, I guess we have to sit back and wait for the appeal.

Being a Cleveland fan is never dull.


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He ran the full gauntlet today. Did First Take, Sports Center, Highly Questionable and another show I think. Kinda disgusted that neither the Browns or ESPN told him what's up before they paraded him out there like that.

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Something that really makes me mad is that Josh Gordon was on ESPN all day today and they just sprung this on him real quick.




I was thinking the same thing, hes done a few rounds on espn shows for the past couple months. I thought, even today, wow he finally gets it. I'm in the limelight, all,I need to do is stay clean. Nope, how could the browns FO let him parade around national outlets with this looming?




Yeah, he was on SVP&Russilo today. Regardless of who knew in the organization, I'm surprised he put himself out there KNOWING he was about to look like a complete fool.

Welp, I guess we have to sit back and wait for the appeal.

Being a Cleveland fan is never dull.




He smokes pot and he gets tested for drugs so he knew he failed this test. If he didn't know he was just probably hoping he passed. He probably has squeaked one or two by in the past.

He is in denial he's addicted to pot. HE'S A POTHEAD and it is ruining his career. Or maybe even ruined it?

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Maybe the nfl made this public knowledge on a Friday afternoon to let cleveland fans down easier, could be worse, the news could have come out on a Monday morning.

There's the rationale of a clevelander


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On the bright side he just killed his next contract...

Gotta look for hope somewhere

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He ran the full gauntlet today. Did First Take, Sports Center, Highly Questionable and another show I think. Kinda disgusted that neither the Browns or ESPN told him what's up before they paraded him out there like that.




That is not what is disgusting. The fact that people rely on him and he screwed up HOW MANY TIME NOW is what is disgusting... at least to me. He is the 'victim' of no one but himself.

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I can hear the laughter all the way from Pittsburgh.

You know what... SCREW'EM! Screw those punks who hold crap like this over our heads for years now and SCREW JOSH GORDON!

Fine! DO IT THE HARD WAY BROWNS! Dig deep, hit a punk in the mouth, and impose your will! Cuz when the gloves fall you don't want to be the one who backed the Dawgs against the wall.


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He ran the full gauntlet today. Did First Take, Sports Center, Highly Questionable and another show I think. Kinda disgusted that neither the Browns or ESPN told him what's up before they paraded him out there like that.




Huh?

Gordon has known about it since April.

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He ran the full gauntlet today. Did First Take, Sports Center, Highly Questionable and another show I think. Kinda disgusted that neither the Browns or ESPN told him what's up before they paraded him out there like that.




Or, if he did know, then it's disgusting that he went out there as a representative of the Browns.

What an immature ass. If I was one of his teammates, I would seriously be tempted to punch him right in his stupid face. Good Lord, how can a person be so damned stupid? He screwed not only himself, but the Browns, and his teammates as well.

Ugh. Oh well, the Bible says to forgive so now that my rant is over with .........

Hopefully we come up with a starting quality WR to replace him with. I don't see him coming back if this is the year long suspension. I suspect that the Browns will cancel his contract and go after whatever remains of his signing bonus. This kid screwed up his whole career because he had to get high. What a shame for him, and a tragedy for the Browns and their hopes for this coming year.

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Never trusted him, never will. And that's why you don't draft multiple-time failed druggies out of college.

Yet another black eye on the H&H regime.

Nice going Holmgren, nice going Heckert, nice going Gordon.

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I'm still skeptical of the "Source." There is protocol for these results. No one should have access to this info and share with ESPN. Especially on Draft Day. when we are trying to keep everything quiet.

Hoping we faked the "source" for the ultimate SMOKE and mirrors!


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No one should have access to this info and share with ESPN.




Someone did last year.

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Huh?

Gordon has known about it since April.




Didn't hear about that. Thanks.

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I wouldn't doubt ESPN on this. It has been picked up everywhere, and no one puts such a huge story out there, on draft day, unless it's verified by a legitimate source.

There were reports last year of Gordon's drug suspension well before there was official word. The team cannot comment on the matter until the NFL lets them.

*Sigh* What a waste of talent.


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Nfl Drug Policy

I implore everyone to read the NFL drug policy and try to understand what will happen for yourself.

For whatever reason I sincerely believe the media is wrong. I don't know how or why they are all wrong, but if you look at the policy Gordon will be suspended 6 games.

Last year he violated the first test within Stage 2 and was banned for four weeks. He argued this down to 2 weeks.

He should now be under the second titled "Discipline for Second Failure to Comply in Stage 2":

A suspension for the period of time to cover six
consecutive regular and post season games
(including the Pro Bowl, if selected) without pay if
the player was suspended pursuant to Section
E.2.b.(1)(b) above.

(If the player has not completed Stage 1 successfully)

Gordon will be suspended six weeks. If I am wrong then the NFL policy needs to be rewritten into english because that is the only way this makes any sense if you read the actual policy. If I am right, the media needs to read the damn policy and stop spouting scare stories.

Gordon is a top 1-5 receiver in this league. He came into the league with an injury history known commonly as "stupidity". I seriously keep this guy as long as his body is working and try to get him to stop using drugs. Players blow out their ACLs and lose their speed. At least with Gordons suspension he is only an idiot, when he comes back he'll be full speed but will continue to be a suspension risk. I can live with that.

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