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'Cleveland Browns see potential in small-school cornerback Pierre Desir' (with video) http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/cleveland_browns_see_potential.html#incart_m-rpt-1By Tom Reed, Northeast Ohio Media Group on May 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM BEREA, Ohio – For a kid who grew up playing a sport that discourages the use of hands, Pierre Desir has developed into quite the ball hawk. The Haitian-born cornerback intercepted 25 passes over four seasons at two small colleges. His production and size made him a target for the Browns on Saturday in the fourth round of the 2014 NFL Draft. Two days after using their first pick to acquire Oklahoma State corner Justin Gilbert, the Browns added Desir, a converted soccer player, with the No. 127 overall selection. While the Browns are not addressing a perceived need for receivers in the draft they keep collecting players who can cover them. The 6-foot-1, 198-pound Desir parlayed a strong senior season at Division II Lindenwood (Mo.) into invites to the East-West Shrine Game and Senior Bowl. “My strengths as a corner are my size, my length,” said Desir, recipient of the Cliff Harris Award, presented annually to the best small-college defender. “Besides that, I would say it would be the ability to attack the ball out of the air and just my overall ball skills.” Desir and Gilbert are both at least 6-feet tall, which is becoming en vogue following the success of the Seattle Seahawks’ Richard Sherman (6-3) and Byron Maxwell (6-1). “When you're long, it gives you a lot bigger margin for error,” Browns scout Chisom Opara said. “You don't have to be as perfect with your feet or your hips, but if you're close enough where your length can make up that difference, then there is some value to that. I think with our first-round pick and with Pierre we're able to accomplish that.” Desir’s back story helped make him a subject of ESPN’s series Draft Academy, which chronicles prospects’ journeys to the NFL. The family emigrated from Haiti to escape political tumult when Desir was age 4. He didn’t start playing football until his freshman year in high school in St Charles, Mo. Academic issues kept him off the radar of large schools and he played two years at Washburn (Kans.) University. Desir, who became a father at age 16, wanted to transfer closer to home with his wife and two daughters, but Washburn would not let him out of his scholarship. He opted to walk on at Lindenwood and work a variety of jobs -- everything from janitor to selling communication products to provide from his family. "When you have a guy from a small school and the cards are stacked against him, one thing you do look for are those 'make it' intangibles or reasons why you would think that if we take a shot on this guy, this guy will succeed," Opara said. "In talking to the coaches there and in talking to the support staff there, and then meeting the kid at the all-star game, this kid seems like he's wired the right way for success." Desir is making a big jump from Division II to the NFL, and needs to improve his technique and sharpen his instincts. When assessing small-college talent, scouts want to see dramatic separation between prospect and competition. The Browns said they witnessed it with Desir. “As the process unfolded,” Opara said, “this guy kind of checked off a lot of boxes as far as the questions that you may have of a guy from a small school.” (end)
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I'm a big believer in second chances and I do respect somebody who is able to overcome bad circumstances, but I have to admit, when those bad circumstances are self-induced, it does take just a little bit of the shine off of it for me.
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I'm a big believer in second chances and I do respect somebody who is able to overcome bad circumstances, but I have to admit, when those bad circumstances are self-induced, it does take just a little bit of the shine off of it for me.
Yes, and I agree. But, he is now a fulltime family man. And, I sincerely believe it. I saw an interview where his eyes were just glazed over talking about this and that and some of the troubles in his past. Then, the reporter asked him about his kids and his eyes just lit up and he got all excited to talk about his girls. So, yeah, he put himself in that position, but any good father is a hero in my book.
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Watching him on Draft Academy gives some great insight into this man. I'm really pulling for him...
But with #1 pick Gilbert and #1 paycheck Haden on the corners, he is not going to displace either of those 2. Nickle CB maybe but Skrine does pretty well there. Now...the move the FS makes more sense for him. His biggest skill is ball-hawking
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We are going to be playing four corners a ton. He just has to beat out McFadden.
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There is also no guarantee that Skrine will be here next year. His deal is up this year, and I don't know that we blow a big deal on him. If we get Desir experience this year, then he could slide right into that 3rd CB role next year, as a big corner on small receivers.
People talk about his speed like he's slow or something, but I also watched that Draft Academy, and his technique running out of the blocks stunk. He's not a track guy. He always played fast on the field though though, which I put far more credence in. It also appears that he played both man and zone in college, and played both well, which should make him valuable in that 3rd/4th role.
I see no sense in taking a corner capable of being a plus man defender and turning him into a Safety though. I would rather develop him into a top flight corner.
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This is exactly the type of guy I would expect Ray Farmer to love based on what Ray has stated in the past. Well spoken, smart and loves football above all else. This guy is definately not one of those "loves what football brings him" type of guys.
I am rooting for him.
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There is also no guarantee that Skrine will be here next year. His deal is up this year, and I don't know that we blow a big deal on him.
Skrine would have to show a lot personally and the Browns defense as a whole would have to be really good for Skrine to command a big pay day.. but it's a good problem to have if Skrine is worth a lot and Desir looks promising... I've long waited for a time when we had so much talent we couldn't afford to keep it all. 
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There is also no guarantee that Skrine will be here next year. His deal is up this year, and I don't know that we blow a big deal on him.
Skrine would have to show a lot personally and the Browns defense as a whole would have to be really good for Skrine to command a big pay day.. but it's a good problem to have if Skrine is worth a lot and Desir looks promising... I've long waited for a time when we had so much talent we couldn't afford to keep it all.
Finally we might get some comp picks for guys like Skrine, Sheard, Rubin, etc who we already have guys lying in wait for! 
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Sorry to interrupt the dream big party, but Desir will never be a slot CB, there's just no way.
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Sorry to interrupt the dream big party, but Desir will never be a slot CB, there's just no way.
I think it's more likely if after this year Skrine leaves that Gilbert may make the move to slot for Nickle packages. I think he has the best hips of the bunch to stay with shifty slot types. History has shown Haden is best against size not agility.
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There is also no guarantee that Skrine will be here next year. His deal is up this year, and I don't know that we blow a big deal on him. If we get Desir experience this year, then he could slide right into that 3rd CB role next year, as a big corner on small receivers.
People talk about his speed like he's slow or something, but I also watched that Draft Academy, and his technique running out of the blocks stunk. He's not a track guy. He always played fast on the field though though, which I put far more credence in. It also appears that he played both man and zone in college, and played both well, which should make him valuable in that 3rd/4th role.
I see no sense in taking a corner capable of being a plus man defender and turning him into a Safety though. I would rather develop him into a top flight corner.
Yeah, I can see Skrine leaving for a FA payday. Someone will overpay him but I doubt Farmer does. (Let's face it..if someone is willing to pay Shaun Lauvo $17M...)
As for Desir, I'm curious what the coaching staff will do with him. He just seems out of place for a slot cover guy and there is no way he's cracking the starting corners except for an injury *knocks on wood*
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I think the Dolphins moving in front of us to #125 and pickeing CB Walt Aikens was one of those battleship moments Farmer talked about. I think he was our small school CB target and that's why Miami moved up. I would have preferred him over Desir too, so I hope he was Farmer's primary target
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j/c Bleacher Report has a good article on this kid.. Read it here Hard not to root for someone who really values family above all else and the sacrifices he's made. Watching Draft Academy....I like how he was new car shopping at the Hyundai dealership for a family vehicle...not just a fancy new ride for himself like we see most athletes do. I think that shows a great deal of maturity and he has his head screwed on straight. Lets hope he can put it together on the field when called upon.
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There is also no guarantee that Skrine will be here next year. His deal is up this year, and I don't know that we blow a big deal on him. If we get Desir experience this year, then he could slide right into that 3rd CB role next year, as a big corner on small receivers.
People talk about his speed like he's slow or something, but I also watched that Draft Academy, and his technique running out of the blocks stunk. He's not a track guy. He always played fast on the field though though, which I put far more credence in. It also appears that he played both man and zone in college, and played both well, which should make him valuable in that 3rd/4th role.
I see no sense in taking a corner capable of being a plus man defender and turning him into a Safety though. I would rather develop him into a top flight corner.
Yeah, I can see Skrine leaving for a FA payday. Someone will overpay him but I doubt Farmer does. (Let's face it..if someone is willing to pay Shaun Lauvo $17M...)
As for Desir, I'm curious what the coaching staff will do with him. He just seems out of place for a slot cover guy and there is no way he's cracking the starting corners except for an injury *knocks on wood*
Someone mentioned the possibility of (eventually, next year maybe) sliding Gilbert inside on 3rd downs, and playing Desir on the outside. That seems like it could be a reasonable way to handle things if we lose Skrine.
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Skrine is a similar player as Munnerlyn, undersized slot/CB2 tweener. Munnerlyn got 3years, 11mil, 4+ guaranteed and just 1mil signing bonus.
I expect Skrine to get at least that on the market. Gilbert will cost around 3mil/year, Haden 12mil, Desir just above the minimum. Not sure, depending on how the rooks develop I might even try to keep Skrine for that kind of money
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Going into the draft I thought CB was our biggest need. Now it seems it may be one of our biggest strengths. Love the 2 CB's picked.
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me too. People blasted me when I said that we should take 2 CB high ...... well, that's what we wound up doing. Maybe the 2nd CB wasn't as high as I thought, but he was a highly thought of prospect, with size and significant physical talent.
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Skrine is a similar player as Munnerlyn, undersized slot/CB2 tweener. Munnerlyn got 3years, 11mil, 4+ guaranteed and just 1mil signing bonus.
I expect Skrine to get at least that on the market. Gilbert will cost around 3mil/year, Haden 12mil, Desir just above the minimum. Not sure, depending on how the rooks develop I might even try to keep Skrine for that kind of money
I don't think Skrine gets as much as Munnerlyn.
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well, that's what we wound up doing.
Taking a CB high but in a drop back. I might have downplayed a suggestion to take CB at #4 - who knew we will pick at #8???
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If you recall, I wanted to trade down a couple of spots to #6 with the Falcons. (depending which QB(s) went with 1-3) I wanted to take the QB early, and the CB with 26 (and 35, or one of our 3rd rounders) ..... but it wound up working the other way with our top 2 picks.
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In the end, I am a big fan of corners. It's hard to have too many of them, andf if you do, you can always trade them for a premium. It's the "skill" position of the defense.
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In the end, I don't think it was a great idea drafting two cbs that high, especially considering what we already have at that position and the glaring needs we have at other positions.
But again, it is just opinion.
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In the end, I don't think it was a great idea drafting two cbs that high, especially considering what we already have at that position and the glaring needs we have at other positions.
But again, it is just opinion.
We'll see what shakes here.. with most teams coming out in 3+ WR sets now.. we need solid guys...
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