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Well ... at one point the Lakers had hopes of getting Lebron ...... and Melo ...... and it looks like neither will happen.
As a side note, it's funny. I was talking to my mom, who is about the biggest NON fan there is. She doesn't like anything sports ..... but she said "He's going home, because it's home."
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Sources @espn moving from Bristol to Cleveland so that they can cover @JManziel2 @KingJames every single move. Also plans for Vegas office.
12:36 PM - 11 Jul 2014 
I was thinking no one is sadder/madder about this move than ESPN. I'll bet the offices are quiet and everyone is staring out the windows looking all forlorn and wistful.
ESPN loves this. Non-stop LeBron talk. If he goes back to Miami there is not much to talk about.
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My sincerest condolences go out to ESPN after the collapse of the Miami Heat. No parent should outlive their child.
I love Twitter sometimes!
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It would be Lebron AND Irving though ... who I think he's pretty good friends with.
I'm not saying that means he would go somewhere else.. just that it let's another somewhat attractive option into the conversation...
There is a good argument for getting him this year, first it would be a trade before he has the option of making the circuit and being wined and dined by other teams... second all of the momentum is in Cleveland's corner right now, go get it while you can. Third there is the possibility that Bennett looks as bad next year as he did last year and suddenly putting him in any trade is almost worthless... The big sticking point for me is Wiggins.. I do not want to give up Wiggins.
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Kevin Love 26.1/12.5 guy with 26.97 PER. Power Forward shooting .376 from 3 on 6.6 attempts a game.
Win Shares (formula that takes into account both offense and defense)
1. Kevin Durant-OKC 19.2
2. LeBron James-MIA 15.9
3. Kevin Love-MIN 14.3
4. Stephen Curry-GSW 13.4
5. James Harden-HOU 12.8
6. Blake Griffin-LAC 12.2
7. Chris Paul-LAC 12.2
8. Kyle Lowry-TOR 11.7
9. Joakim Noah-CHI 11.2
10. DeAndre Jordan-LAC 11.1
11. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 10.9
12. Paul George-IND 10.8
13. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 10.7
14. Anthony Davis-NOP 10.4
15. Goran Dragic-PHO 10.3
16. Andre Drummond-DET 9.9
17. Serge Ibaka-OKC 9.6
18. Damian Lillard-POR 9.6
19. Robin Lopez-POR 9.5
20. DeMar DeRozan-TOR
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My sincerest condolences go out to ESPN after the collapse of the Miami Heat. No parent should outlive their child.
I'm flying back to Key West on Sunday, I'm so sad I haven't been there for this. The Miami media and fans would be a blast to listen to now. Can't wait to get back for many reasons, and that's one!
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Say goodbye to Wiggens and maybe Dion.
I hope Dion, that guy is a thorn in the arse! , good player, not so good person.
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I will say it again; if you can get Love, you do it. LeBron and Love get you to the finals in the east. Throw in Irving and you have a 65 win team in the east.
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Kevin Love 26.1/12.5 guy with 26.97 PER. Power Forward shooting .376 from 3 on 6.6 attempts a game.
Win Shares (formula that takes into account both offense and defense)
1. Kevin Durant-OKC 19.2
2. LeBron James-MIA 15.9
3. Kevin Love-MIN 14.3
4. Stephen Curry-GSW 13.4
5. James Harden-HOU 12.8
6. Blake Griffin-LAC 12.2
7. Chris Paul-LAC 12.2
8. Kyle Lowry-TOR 11.7
9. Joakim Noah-CHI 11.2
10. DeAndre Jordan-LAC 11.1
11. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 10.9
12. Paul George-IND 10.8
13. Carmelo Anthony-NYK 10.7
14. Anthony Davis-NOP 10.4
15. Goran Dragic-PHO 10.3
16. Andre Drummond-DET 9.9
17. Serge Ibaka-OKC 9.6
18. Damian Lillard-POR 9.6
19. Robin Lopez-POR 9.5
20. DeMar DeRozan-TOR
Love doesn't turn 26 till September.
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I would have guessed he was older than by 2 or 3 years.
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I will say it again; if you can get Love, you do it. LeBron and Love get you to the finals in the east. Throw in Irving and you have a 65 win team in the east.
Yea, if it costs you Wiggens so be it. It hurts but you're an instant top 3 team.
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Ray Allen is willing to play for the veteran minimum in Cleveland, according to sources. #Cavs
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Wonder what lebron will pick for number. I'd love him to go back to 23, but it will be about jersey sales so probably 6 or 32. I'm curious to see what kind of contract he signs
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Let me just say that I would offer up an awful lot before I gave up Wiggins. I said a couple days ago and I stand by it that in the NBA if you have a chance to put together a team that gives you a legit 3 or 4 year window to win a championship, even if you know you will then have to blow it up and start over, you do it. It's different than the NFL and MLB in that regard where long term planning is essential.. So, and this is open to anybody who wants to play... What is our starting line-up without a Love trade... What is our starting line-up with a Love trade that you would agree with....? Feel free to use players still open in free agency that we could afford in your fictitious line-up if you like. 
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just clicking, lets celebrate people, we have months to talk about trades, what should we do what should we not do. Today is all about Northeast Ohio and the people  ok, you can talk trades if you want 
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I think I'm going to have a celebration beer or three for Cleveland tonight. Big win for the city.
Windy said this might be the best sports event since the Browns won in 1964, it would be hard to argue with him.
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yea this is the best moment for me in regards to Cleveland sports.
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It looks like the Rockets are going to get Bosh and retain Parsons. That is a pretty good team. Howard, Bosh, Harden, Parsons, Beverley, and Jones is a strong first six guys.
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Wonder what lebron will pick for number. I'd love him to go back to 23, but it will be about jersey sales so probably 6 or 32. I'm curious to see what kind of contract he signs
Lebron's website shows him in a Cav's #6 jersey.
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That's a damn good team.
I think that they could, realistically, be the favorite.
Umm ,.... on ESPN they are talking about the Cavaliers trying to trade Gee ......
Didn't we already trade him away for Haywood and the 2nd round player from this past draft?
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I don't think it was official.
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ODDS TO WIN 2014-15 NBA CHAMPIONSHIP (6/15/15) Team Odds Cleveland Cavaliers 9/2 San Antonio Spurs 5/1 Oklahoma City Thunder 6/1 Chicago Bulls 15/2 Los Angeles Clippers 12/1 Houston Rockets 15/1 Indiana Pacers 18/1 Golden State Warriors 25/1 Portland Blazers 40/1 Washington Wizards 45/1 Memphis Grizzlies 50/1 Miami Heat 50/1 Dallas Mavericks 50/1 Phoenix Suns 60/1 Toronto Raptors 60/1 New York Knicks 50/1 Denver Nuggets 60/1 Los Angeles Lakers 65/1 New Orleans Pelicans 65/1 Brooklyn Nets 85/1 Charlotte Hornets 85/1 Atlanta Hawks 85/1 Boston Celtics 100/1 Minnesota Timberwolves 150/1 Orlando Magic 300/1 Detroit Pistons 300/1 Utah Jazz 300/1 Sacramento Kings 300/1 Milwaukee Bucks 400/1 Philadelphia 76ers 650/1 http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
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Those odds are also with Bosh in Mia or, most probably pre Houston.
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Cleveland Cavaliers 9/2
San Antonio Spurs 5/1
Oklahoma City Thunder 6/1
Chicago Bulls 15/2
Los Angeles Clippers 12/1
Houston Rockets 15/1
Indiana Pacers 18/1
Golden State Warriors 25/1
I'm as glad as anybody but that looks like a knee jerk reaction to me. We have a little ways to go to prove that these guys (especially the young guys) can play together as well as some of the teams on that list that have been good for a few years...
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I'm somewhat tempted to go on the 12-1 and 15-1 odds I've seen on Houston, but I don't know how to gamble on sports legally and while avoiding getting my credit card information stolen.
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Great start to building a resume for your first GM gig David Griffin:
- traded Clark, Sims, draft picks for Hawes during the season
- received first pick, drafted Andrew Wiggins in supposedly a very deep draft
- signed Kyrie to a max deal
- signed Lebron
* - possibly traded/signed K. Love (?)
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But what’s most important for me is bringing one trophy back to Northeast Ohio...
We’re not ready right now. No way. Of course, I want to win next year, but I’m realistic. It will be a long process, much longer than it was in 2010. My patience will get tested.
So, how do we know he won't run out of patients and leave again with Decision #3 before delivering a championship?
It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
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Okay, where are all the doubters at? ... please step forward and eat this plate of crow.
If you are asking for the those that doubted he'd return, I'm right here..Not eating any crow.
I have mixed emotions. Obviously, LBJ is the best player in the NBA today. And we'll win a lot more with him here.. No question.
He didn't do anything wrong when he left 4 years ago, I just didn't like the way he did it. this time, he did it very well.
Then on the other hand, Gilbert acted like a kid who had his football stolen from him with that silly letter.
In the end, neither side handled it all that well.
Perhaps they can work it out and get a ring or two here.
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According to Windhorst, the Gee deal is still going through, but he will wind up on the Pelicans now. Seems like we would still get Haywood though.
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FYI: Again, Thursday afternoon, Cavs source told @FOXSportsOH: "Andrew Wiggins is not being traded."
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But what’s most important for me is bringing one trophy back to Northeast Ohio...
We’re not ready right now. No way. Of course, I want to win next year, but I’m realistic. It will be a long process, much longer than it was in 2010. My patience will get tested.
So, how do we know he won't run out of patients and leave again with Decision #3 before delivering a championship?
We don't... and never will.
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If the Cavs can keep Wiggins and get Love that is a failure by Flip Saunders and the T'Wolves. With that said, if I were the Cavs I would be offering everything else. Bennett, Waiters, and three first rounds picks is a pretty good offer. I think think problem is Saunders, stupidly, wants to win this season.
The financials work if the Cavs trade Bennett, Waiters, and Hopson for Love.
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jc Kind of a light-hearted approach trying to illustrate how good a baseball player one would have to be to have the same effect on the game (using wins above replacement) as LeBron does in basketball. It shows that 1) LeBron is really good and 2) A great basketball player can influence games far more than baseball players (or most other athletes) can: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/lets-imagine-a-baseball-playing-lebron-james/FWIW, I tend to think the second approach makes more sense, and I suspect those that read through it will probably agree.
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Gilbert's take on his infamous letter, and the apologies that happened in their secret meeting on Sunday: How LeBron James forgave Cavs owner Dan Gilbert and returned to Cleveland
Adrian Wojnarowski By Adrian Wojnarowski
55 minutes ago
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For four years, the letter had come to define Dan Gilbert, and the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers wanted to wash away the shame and embarrassment and guilt of it all. So Sunday, Gilbert sat down with LeBron James and his inner-circle and tried to absolve himself of a most wretched moment in time.
"We had five great years together and one terrible night," Gilbert told James, and so started the process of reconciliation on Sunday night in Miami. "I told him how sorry I was, expressed regret for how that night went and how I let all the emotion and passion for the situation carry me away. I told him I wish I had never done it, that I wish I could take it back."
And soon, James told Gilbert that he wished he had never done "The Decision" on cable television and that they had made mistakes together, that they could move past it. From James and his agent Rich Paul and business manager Maverick Carter, the air of peace hung heavy in the South Florida air, the process of returning to Cleveland had begun in earnest. Soon, they had stopped talking about the past and talked about the possibility of a future together and for the first time – truly the first time – the possibility of reunification had become genuine.
"It was more comfortable than I actually thought it would be," Gilbert told Yahoo Sports on Friday afternoon. "They made it easy for me."
These had been Gilbert's first public words since agent Rich Paul called him moments before a public announcement, and said simply, "Dan, congratulations. LeBron's coming home."
Gilbert had flown down on his private jet on Sunday for the most important meeting of his billionaire business life. After obliterating James on the night of his departure for the Miami Heat four years ago, Gilbert had come back to make his pitch for the most improbable of partnerships: James and Gilbert, older and wiser, scarred in far different ways from sport's most spectacular falling-out.
James became branded by The Decision, and Gilbert became a hostage to his Letter. Only, James would win two titles in four years with the Heat, and winning washes everything away. Winning changes the story. The Cavaliers have lost a lot of games, made mistakes and then Gilbert started to understand something: For all his business genius, all his rebuilding of Detroit and charitable endeavors and everything he had done in his life, the letter had come to define him.
"Do a Google search on me, and it's the first thing that comes up," Gilbert told Yahoo Sports. "To a certain segment of society, it's like somebody killed somebody, like somebody killed their kid. I told LeBron, 'That letter didn't hurt anybody more than it hurt me.'
"For the first two months, I kept thousands of letters – not hundreds – thousands written to me. There were 90-year-old ladies and CEOs, and I realized that that letter had transcended the event, went far beyond LeBron. After a few months, I would re-read it and just be full of regret. That wasn't me, that wasn't who I am. I didn't mean most of the things I said in there. The venom it produced, from all sides … I wish … I wish I had never done it.
"I'm grateful that we all get another chance together now."
Three years ago, Gilbert says he "started to hear rumblings that this could be possible," that James had thoughts about someday making a return to the Cavaliers. "I went back and forth in my mind, thinking: Could this really happen? It was a volatile thing for years, and now that it's happened, I'm still in shock."
Gilbert couldn't stop talking about Paul and Carter, about how they were the conduits to make it all work again. "So professional with us through the whole process," Gilbert said. In the end, LeBron James wanted to come home, wanted to forgive, and there were these two figures, forever connected in history, sitting in Miami on Sunday and slowly, surely laying out a way it could all happen again.
LeBron James comes home a two-time champion, comes home with a chance to deliver something Dan Gilbert would've never imagined possible again: a chance for them to be champions together, a chance to wash away all the stain of a Scarlet Letter and The Decision, to get together older and wiser, and better understand how it can be made right again.
His cell phone buzzed on Friday afternoon, and Dan Gilbert, the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers, heard the words he could've never, ever imagined: LeBron's coming home. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-lebron-...-191445831.html
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