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http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/17/plane-crash/12780457/Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed that it "has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam" Breaking (Photo: WKYC-TV) CONNECTTWEETLINKEDINCOMMENTEMAILMORE A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with 295 people aboard was reportedly hit by a missile and crashed Thursday in Ukraine near the Russian border, according to an adviser to Ukraine's interior ministry. Anton Gerashenko, the adviser, says on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 33,000 feet when it was hit Thursday by a missile fired from a Buk launcher, the Associated Press reports. A similar launcher was seen by AP journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday. It was no immediately clear who would have been in control of such a launcher in the restive area where Ukrainian forces are battling ethnic Russian separatists. Malaysia Airlines said on Twitter that it "has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace." Russia's Interfax news agency, quoting an unidentified aviation source, said Malaysia Airlines flies an Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur route that crosses Ukraine and Russian territory. The unidentified source, according to Interfax, said the plane was 30 miles from Russian airspace when it began to go down. It said the burning wreckage of the plane was found on the ground in Ukraine. The report, quoting the aviation source, says there were 280 passengers and 15 crew members aboard.
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Wow.... really makes you wonder what happened to the first one.
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Wow.... really makes you wonder what happened to the first one.
Makes you wonder what they did to . God or Aliens off so much to shoot down two planes in a year.
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time to bring these terrorists to justice..
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What terrorists? We don't even know what happened.
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Terrible news. Its hard to believe.
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Most news outlets are reporting it as a terrorist act.
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Ukraine separatists shot it down thinking it was a Ukrainian cargo plane.
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Most news outlets are reporting it as a terrorist act.
I see it now. You really have to give it up to Twitter and Facebook as public forums that you can immediately respond to news. My bad, guess I was just a bit late.
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How the hell do you mistake a jetliner for a cargo plane?
Here is a clue one has windows one doesn't.
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Kinda makes you think what happened to the first one.
This is really sad. People trying to go on vacation, business, going home or just visiting family, getting caught up in BS.
PRAYERS GONE OUT.
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And this is exactly why it DOES matter how the US is perceived abroad.
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The pro-Russian Ukrainians that shot it down with a ground-to-air missile?
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Terrible news. Its hard to believe.
Are you really shocked? Why? Putin projected power over Ukraine's Crimea and the world (and Obama) stood by and did nothing. Then, these Russian separatists sprung up because they knew that the West was weak and wouldn't do anything. It shouldn't surprise anyone.
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How is this a US issue? If there's an American on board then yes, if not....
But let me guess. This is Obama fault.
Ukraine just said they don't have ADA capabilities. A stinger missle doesn't have the range to shoot a jet out that high of altitude, so it had to be Russian forces.
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Terrible news. Its hard to believe.
Are you really shocked? Why? Putin projected power over Ukraine's Crimea and the world (and Obama) stood by and did nothing. Then, these Russian separatists sprung up because they knew that the West was weak and wouldn't do anything. It shouldn't surprise anyone.
What? Dude move to Russia if you wanna hang of putins sack so much.
The sanctions are WORKING. Did you see the new stuff coming out? Putin and the rubble(sp currency) took a hit. Russia NEEDS the EU and the US. Which is why their military fell back.
You keep saying one thing, but the opposite is happening.
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You should put away your jump to conclusions mat.
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How is this a US issue? If there's an American on board then yes, if not....
Are you saying that they wouldn't have shot it down if it was an American Airlines or Delta jet? Seriously, you're THAT stupid!
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Obama's weakness in foreign policy is to blame for this. Yes.
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Ukraine just said they don't have ADA capabilities. A stinger missole doesn't have the range to shoot a jet out that high of altitude, so it had to be Russian forces.
The equipment was Russian-made and it was a ground-to-air missile, but it was Ukrainian equipment in the hands of pro-Russian separatists. It wasn't a shoulder-launched weapon like a stinger is. This one has a ground-based platform.
Sadly, you served in the military but don't know jack about the weapon systems. What were you, a paper pusher? A recruiter?
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Kinda makes you think what happened to the first one.
This is really sad. People trying to go on vacation, business, going home or just visiting family, getting caught up in BS.
PRAYERS GONE OUT.
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Well, obviously, his knowledge pales in comparison to yours... 
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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How the hell do you mistake a jetliner for a cargo plane?
Here is a clue one has windows one doesn't.
Hard to see windows when you are looking up at a plane that is 33,000 feet in the air...
And I don't really care what most news agencies are reporting right now.. history tells us that in the hours after a tragedy, most news agencies are wrong... I'll wait.
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How is this a US issue? If there's an American on board then yes, if not....
From reports I've read, there were close to 30.
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Are you really shocked? Why? Putin projected power over Ukraine's Crimea and the world (and Obama) stood by and did nothing. Then, these Russian separatists sprung up because they knew that the West was weak and wouldn't do anything. It shouldn't surprise anyone.
What? Dude move to Russia if you wanna hang of putins sack so much.
The sanctions are WORKING. Did you see the new stuff coming out? Putin and the rubble(sp currency) took a hit. Russia NEEDS the EU and the US. Which is why their military fell back.
You keep saying one thing, but the opposite is happening.
I don't want anything to do with Putin, but you seem to love Obama so much that you can't see his faults even when they're glaring for everyone to see. You really should come up from having your head up your ass.
You really should take a reading comprehension course. Nevermind, it wouldn't work. You're too brain-dead for it to have any effect.
The sanctions had no effect whatsoever and Obama imposes more sanctions that mean little more than nothing. That ought to get Putin to change his ways.
I can see you saying that the downing of his airliner by pro-Russian separatists as being proof that Obama's foreign policy is working. 
I simply can't take any more of your non-sense. Bye. Maybe you can tell someone else that "they want to hang off Putin's sack".
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Well, obviously, his knowledge pales in comparison to yours...
It does. One might even say that his knowledge pales compared to that of a rock.
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Obama's weakness in foreign policy is to blame for this. Yes.
This guy has been comedy gold this week.
He's on a whole other level right now.
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Well this has escalated quickly.
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Well this has escalated quickly.
Well, Swish has to protect his messiah if anything criticizing him is said.
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And this is exactly why it DOES matter how the US is perceived abroad.
How is this a US issue? If there's an American on board then yes, if not....
Are you saying that they wouldn't have shot it down if it was an American Airlines or Delta jet? Seriously, you're THAT stupid!
I guess he could say the same for you about your impending suspension from this board.
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How is this a US issue? If there's an American on board then yes, if not....
Are you saying that they wouldn't have shot it down if it was an American Airlines or Delta jet? Seriously, you're THAT stupid!
I guess he could say the same for you about your impending suspension from this board.
*shrug* My feelings won't be hurt.
Oh, and 23 Americans were reportedly on the flight. Is that enough for Swish to say that it's an American issue?
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To add... from the Telegraph UK newspaper. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...order-live.htmlThey confirm that 23 Americans and 8 Britons on-board. My guess is that Obama says something that everyone else will say about being sorry and praying for the families of the dead, but nothing else will occur to solve the conflict there. But, planes are now being routed around Ukraine.
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Why are they flying a commercial airline over a war zone in the first place? That's asking for trouble.
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I guess there was bad weather to the south, which would've been their normal flight route..
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Which is really all he should say.. that and we will make a full commitment to get to the bottom of what happened. And as soon as he says that, then we can start with Benghazi analogies. 
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Which is really all he should say.. that and we will make a full commitment to get to the bottom of what happened. And as soon as he says that, then we can start with Benghazi analogies.
Yeah, what's he supposed to say? We're invading Russia?
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Yeah, what's he supposed to say? We're invading Russia?
Why would we invade Russia? We will invade Romania claiming that they are behind this.....
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'Ukraine: We did not shoot at any plane' http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-did-not-shoot-plane-162417249--finance.htmlAssociated Press By PETER LEONARD 4 hours ago KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine's president says his country's armed forces did not shoot at any airborne targets, after reports that a Malaysian Airlines plane went down over Ukraine. President Petro Poroshenko says Thursday "we do not exclude that this plane was shot down, and we stress that the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not take action against any airborne targets." Poroshenko said "we are sure that those who are guilty in this tragedy will be held responsible." THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below. A Ukrainian official said a passenger plane carrying 295 people was shot down Thursday over a town in the east of the country, and Malaysian Airlines tweeted that it lost contact with one of its flights over Ukrainian airspace. Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's interior minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet). He also said it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher, which can fire missiles up to an altitude of 22,000 meters (72,000 feet). Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed that it "has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow." The plane's destination was It was the second time that a Malaysia Airlines plane had gone missing in less than six months. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared in March while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. It has not been found, but the search has been concentrated in the Indian Ocean far west of Australia. The Donetsk region government said Thursday's plane crashed near a village called Grabovo, which it said is currently under the control of armed pro-Russian separatists. The region where theflight was lost has seen severe fighting between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russia separatist rebels in recent days. A launcher similar to the Buk missile system was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday. On Wednesday evening, a Ukrainian fighter jet was shot down by an air-to-air missile from a Russian plane, Ukrainian authorities said Thursday, adding to what Kiev says is mounting evidence that Moscow is directly supporting the separatist insurgents in eastern Ukraine. Security Council spokesman Andrei Lysenko said the pilot of the Sukhoi-25 jet hit by the air-to-air missile was forced to bail after his jet was shot down. Pro-Russia rebels, meanwhile, claimed responsibility for strikes Wednesday on two Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 jets. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry said the second jet was hit by a portable surface-to-air missile, but added the pilot was unscathed and managed to land his plane safely Moscow denies Western charges that is supporting the separatists or sowing unrest in its neighbor. The Russian Defense Ministry couldn't be reached for comment Thursday about the Ukrainian jet and Russia's foreign ministry didn't respond to multiple requests for comment. Earlier this week, Ukraine said a military transport plane was shot down Monday by a missile fired from Russian territory. The rebels are known to possess portable anti-aircraft rocket launchers, but Ukrainian officials say that kind of weapon would have been unable to (Note: the ^last sentence^ was mysteriously left unfinished.) (end)
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Yeah, what's he supposed to say? We're invading Russia?
Why would we invade Russia? We will invade Romania claiming that they are behind this.....
it was Canada!!!
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Yeah, what's he supposed to say? We're invading Russia?
Why would we invade Russia? We will invade Romania claiming that they are behind this.....
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