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Sure there is. Paul Ryan is a great one. His economic plan called for tax cuts for the rich, cuts to the budget and increasing the military budget. At the end of the day you have a larger deficit. Just like Reagan.
You may not have liked Ryan's plan... I don't remember all of it but it did include some things that people almost universally favor.. things like simplifying the tax code, eliminating loop holes, attempting to streamline the entitlement programs...
But it was a plan and it included some elements that could have been debated... What new reform plans has anybody else offered up?
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Sure there is. Paul Ryan is a great one. His economic plan called for tax cuts for the rich, cuts to the budget and increasing the military budget. At the end of the day you have a larger deficit. Just like Reagan.
You may not have liked Ryan's plan... I don't remember all of it but it did include some things that people almost universally favor.. things like simplifying the tax code, eliminating loop holes, attempting to streamline the entitlement programs...
But it was a plan and it included some elements that could have been debated... What new reform plans has anybody else offered up?
Yep....None, nada, ziltch, from the right. There have been plenty from the other side. All being ignored while Ryan now mimics earlier liberal ideas on simplifying the tax code, eliminating tax loopholes. Also, which entitlement programs is he trying to streamline? I'm sure it's not Social security or trying to extended unemployment compensation during an economic recession. 
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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Yep....None, nada, ziltch, from the right. There have been plenty from the other side.
Where are all of these out of the box thinking reforms that have been proposed and ignored?
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while Ryan now mimics earlier liberal ideas on simplifying the tax code, eliminating tax loopholes.
Then why won't liberals get behind it and use it as a starting point to actually get something done? And if they are liberal ideas, then when were they proposed? Who proposed them?
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Also, which entitlement programs is he trying to streamline?
What difference does it make? If you could streamline and improve just one, is that not a start?
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I'm sure it's not Social security or trying to extended unemployment compensation during an economic recession.
How does one streamline social security? And how long should unemployment be paid during a recession?
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If you look hard enough (or everywhere when it comes to Tea Party non-sense) you can find a poll to prove your point on just about anything. Still does not make it true. Just sayin'.... that's all.
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Reaganesque conservatives are now considered raging, radical, liberals. 
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