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Vers check out the run from Crowell on this video freak!!
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Did you even go to the links? He was only backing up what you said earlier.
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FYI, I really appreciate the fact that you gave more perspective on the off-field troubles that Crowell had in college. He has the potential to be a tremendous player.
Baker also passed the eye test last year. He was decisive and physical. He belongs on an NFL roster, the "Play like a Brown" slogan really fits with the play he demonstrated last season.
If it were up me I'd go Tate and West to complete the RB stable. Not keeping score but on this one I'm 75 percent with ya!
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Crowell pre draft? Don't remember but don't need no thread to be pulled up...if you say so I'm sure you did.  good call. And we didn't need a pick to get him.
Tate...Just remember when we signed him...it seemed like the best FA move out there. Not that it isn't now but also we did not have West and Crowell what are appearing to be two beast in the making. Also Lewis had a bad injury leaving really Baker. By picking up TATE at FA early it eliminated the need to take RB with our first 3 picks!
As for the 4 RBs. Tate, West, Crowell, Lewis. Throw in Ogb n Baker...Best stable of RBs we've had - since Byner Mack era!
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Lineup updates: On Wednesday, rookie quarterback Johnny Manziel took the reps with the first-team offense for the second time. The first time was Monday. Brian Hoyer worked with the first unit Tuesday but was with the backups Wednesday. ... Jordan Poyer and Jim Leonhard rotated at free safety until projected starter Tashaun Gipson returned to team drills despite suffering a sprained left knee Friday. ... With seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas taking a day off to rest, Paul McQuistan took his place on the first-team offensive line. ... John Greco and Garrett Gilkey continued to rotate at right guard with the first-team offense. ... In the first team drill, the starting defensive line featured Phil Taylor (right end), Ahtyba Rubin (nose tackle) and Desmond Bryant (left end).
Highs and lows: The defense won its competition against the offense at the end of practice and will retain the orange jerseys for another day. Rookie inside linebacker Chris Kirksey broke up a pass from Manziel to tight end Jim Dray in front of the end zone, sealing the defense’s 3-1 victory in an 11-on-11, red-zone period. The offense won just one series, when Manziel connected with Dray for a 7-yard touchdown. Hoyer’s group failed to score on two attempts. ... On the first play of 11-on-11 drills, Manziel completed a 30-yard pass over the middle to slot receiver Andrew Hawkins. ... Linebacker Keith Pough recovered a fumble after quarterback Tyler Thigpen lost the ball on a handoff. ... Cornerback Buster Skrine ripped the ball away from wide receiver Josh Gordon as he attempted to haul it in during a 7-on-7 period. ... Manziel led the offense on a touchdown drive during a two-minute, 7-on-7 drill. On third-and-10 at the 36-yard line, he connected with Hawkins on a deep out for 24 yards. Three plays later, he extended the ball over the goal line for a 1-yard touchdown. ... In the same session, cornerback Pierre Desir deflected a pass from Hoyer over the middle, allowing fellow rookie K’Waun Williams to intercept it.
Injuries: Dray (shoulder) and inside linebacker Tank Carder (foot) returned to practice. ... Offensive lineman Alex Parsons was carted off the field early in practice after an athletic trainer examined his right knee. ... Thomas (scheduled rest), wide receiver Travis Benjamin (scheduled rest as he comes back from a torn ACL suffered last season), tight end Jordan Cameron (shoulder), inside linebacker Darius Eubanks (shoulder) and offensive linemen Michael Bowie (shoulder), Reid Fragel (lower leg) and Randall Harris (knee) did not practice. Offensive lineman Nate McDonald (wrist) remains on the nonfootball injury list.
Thursday’s schedule: Practice from 9:30 a.m. to 12:10 p.m., but it’s closed to the public.
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Another day goes by and from where I'm sitting, Manziel is outplaying Hoyer.....
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BPG...sitting? Are you there and thats your assessment or are you sitting at a chair and reading? Assessing from those written reports.
I just ASSume the written reports are all a little biased towards JM succeeding. I remember the camp Colonel (my dad was 2nd in command as a Major) the Camp Newspaper had the Blue Angels baseball team (11 years old) T...G...(company commander's son) SMASHES a TWO RUN HOMER!!! While A...C...(me) hits a home run with two on base. 
Actually I never noticed it or didn't care but my dad was really P.O.'d lol
Maybe that was the start of Bozoism for me 
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I can concede that it may be media bias. I've been reading everything coming out of camp though and I haven't heard any reports of Hoyer playing particularly well.
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I can concede that it may be media bias. I've been reading everything coming out of camp though and I haven't heard any reports of Hoyer playing particularly well.
Don't worry about it. Manziel is clearly a better player. His time will come. Remember, Bernie sat behind Gary Danielson for the first 6-7 games.
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Hopefully you take this more as a compliment.
But I can respect YOUR Opinion of what you witnessed at camp Much much more than your opinion derived from reading others opinion of what they witnessed.
That is why I asked what I did. Also Why I'm going to wait to see how they play Saturday and only will weigh the COACHES opinion of what they saw cause we tend to assess too much on stats. Completion pct. yards ect. I want to see Red Zone, 3rd down completions. Release, reads, holding onto the ball or getting a flow going. So much more than stats...if I got nothing I will use stats to IMAGINE what happened 
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Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to watch the game this weekend. I've been an admirer of Manziel since before we drafted him. I've defended him mercilessly in the draft threads against people who say he is a scrambling chucker. So it very well could be I'm reading what I want to read or they aren't saying much about Hoyer.
I will be able to watch next weeks preseason game, which I think Manziel will get the start. I'll grade him then.
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I think its live on NFL Network...no venue to tape it?
Actually I'll get to see more of JM with the two's. Although I did read somewhere that Pettine said he will keep the starters in a little longer than most teams...due to the NEW O n New D so that they can evaluate Game condition tape on ALL THE COMPETITIONS.
Although, usually you see Vanilla D's without their arsenal of blitz packages.
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Hopefully you take this more as a compliment.
But I can respect YOUR Opinion of what you witnessed at camp Much much more than your opinion derived from reading others opinion of what they witnessed.
That is why I asked what I did. Also Why I'm going to wait to see how they play Saturday and only will weigh the COACHES opinion of what they saw cause we tend to assess too much on stats. Completion pct. yards ect. I want to see Red Zone, 3rd down completions. Release, reads, holding onto the ball or getting a flow going. So much more than stats...if I got nothing I will use stats to IMAGINE what happened
I'm not at camp and I'll reserve my comments for when I see them on Saturday during the game against the Lions.
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I hope that we keep 4 RB, because I do think that we have some talent at the position, and guys can also get banged up there. (and Tate's history is one of having some nicks and dings along the way)
If the 4th RB, possibly Crowell or Baker, is better than the last player on the roster ar a different position, then I think we;ll keep 4.
I bet the NY Giants might be interested in some first round RB cuts and for a team like the Browns, who seems to be racking RBs, they might snag one of these guys. I'm worried that someone like Crowell could be signed off the PS almost immediately.
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I hope that we keep 4 RB, because I do think that we have some talent at the position, and guys can also get banged up there. (and Tate's history is one of having some nicks and dings along the way)
If the 4th RB, possibly Crowell or Baker, is better than the last player on the roster ar a different position, then I think we;ll keep 4.
I bet the NY Giants might be interested in some first round RB cuts and for a team like the Browns, who seems to be racking RBs, they might snag one of these guys. I'm worried that someone like Crowell could be signed off the PS almost immediately.
The biggest issue with Crowell was that he would not be able to get his head on straight ..... and it appears that he has.
He has had the 3 longest runes in camp so far. He seems to understand his weaknesses, and what he needs to do to have and keep a job in the NFL. He would be snapped up almost immediately by a RB desperate team.
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I'm just worried because a lot of people thought we were stacked at RB last year and we see how that turned out.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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We were stacked last year. Just not near as talented as this year.
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Johnny Manziel won't work with starters in Detroit, LeBron James in the house: Cleveland Browns training camp report day 11 Mary Kay Cabot, Northeast Ohio Media Group By Mary Kay Cabot, Northeast Ohio Media Group BEREA, Ohio -- Johnny Manziel will have to wait at least a week to work with the starters in a preseason game. Coach Mike Pettine said Brian Hoyer will get all the first-team reps Saturday night in the Browns' preseason opener in Detroit. Manziel's chance will likely come Aug. 18 against the Redskins on ESPN's Monday Night Football. "I don't think he will (get first-team reps),'' said Pettine. "I think we're going to let Brian go.The circumstances could change that obviously. For this game, I think we'll pretty much stick to the units as we've practiced, so Brian with the ones and Johnny with the twos." Hoyer worked with the first-team in a light practice Thursday that was closed to the public. It contained few highlights, and the offense struggled again a day after Hoyer said the team needed to come out with a greater sense of urgency. Hoyer's first pass, a deep ball down the right side, was tipped by receiver Travis Benjamin and then dropped by cornerback Buster Skrine. Later, in red-zone drills, Hoyer's pass to Andrew Hawkins was broken up by Skrine; and then Hoyer threw two interceptions in a set, one by linebacker Zac Diles one by Joe Haden. Manziel threw one TD pass to Miles Austin in red-zone drills, and one long ball to Charles Johnson down the right side. After the play, Johnson, recovering from a torn anterior cruciate ligament, came up a bit hobbled. Question is, who will Hoyer and Manziel throw to in Detroit? Former Lions receiver Nate Burleson sat out Thursday with a hamstring injury, and tight end Jordan Cameron has already been ruled out with his shoulder injury. Fortunately for the two quarterbacks, Josh Gordon is still available for duty while he awaits word on his suspension. King James in the house LeBron James created all the buzz at Browns practice Thursday when he showed up about 80 minutes into the session to watch his good friend Johnny Manziel. Afterward, James posed for photos with starstruck players such as cornerback Justin Gilbert, who ran inside to grab his phone to snap a photo, which he later posted on Instagram. Browns coach Mike Pettine envisioned James, the former All-State receiver from St. Vincent-St. Mary High School, catching passes in the red zone. "Yeah. He'd be a heck of a target,'' said Pettine. "Let's just flex him out a little bit and just throw one up for him. That would be very enticing." James promised Pettine that he'll come to some games this season. "You could tell that he's into it and loves football, a big Browns fan,'' said Pettine. "He said he'll be at the games when it's warm and when it's cold he'll be watching in his basement." Justin Gilbert idle Cornerback Justin Gilbert, who's been breaking up passes all week and earning some reps with the first team, sat out practice Thursday with groin injury and his status for the game is in doubt. "Gilbert is a little bit nicked,'' said Pettine. "I don't know (if he'll play).'' The injury comes at a time when Gilbert is gaining ground on Buster Skrine for the starting cornerback job opposite Joe Haden. "I love it," Gilbert said of his first-team reps. "I feel comfortable when I'm in that position, and it always raises my level of play when I'm in there with them, knowing that I've got those guys, the first unit, there. Playing with those guys, it just feels like the right place for me." Linebacker Eric Martin also sat out Thursday with a concussion. Michael Symon too: Super-chef Michael Symon, a Cleveland native and big Browns fan, also attended practice Thursday and watched from the sidelines. What's next: The Browns will have Friday off as they head to Detroit for the game -- a soldout contest at 7:30 Saturday night on WKYC-TV Channel 3. They'll also have Sunday off and resume practice Monday at 9:30 a.m. Their four remaining open practices are Monday through Wednesday, and Friday. All tickets have been distributed, but some get returned. Log onto clevelandbrowns.com for availability. web page
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In the first team drill, the starting defensive line featured Phil Taylor (right end), Ahtyba Rubin (nose tackle) and Desmond Bryant (left end).
I like seeing this. Last year, some of us thought that was going to be our starting line...I know tab and I thought that way...and I think Mourg was too. I never did understand why they put Taylor at NT and Reubin outside.
Now, I can see moving them around and having them switch occasionally, but it seems that it is much smarter to play Reubin at NT most of the time and Taylor at DE for the majority of his snaps.
Btw----------I really like that Kitchen guy as a back-up NT. He is short and stout and has a great motor. I thought our run D improved when he was in there over Phil last year.
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I am thinking in HOrton's D the DE needed to have better discipline, particuarly the way he had his OLB going up field. We all know dicipline is not PT strong suit. Rubin plays under better control. That said if DE is allowed to attack more PT moight shine on the outside 
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After the play, Johnson, recovering from a torn anterior cruciate ligament, came up a bit hobbled.
Question is, who will Hoyer and Manziel throw to in Detroit?
Former Lions receiver Nate Burleson sat out Thursday with a hamstring injury, and tight end Jordan Cameron has already been ruled out with his shoulder injury. Fortunately for the two quarterbacks, Josh Gordon is still available for duty while he awaits word on his suspension.
I realize that many of you don't want to hear it, but we are so thin in the receiving department. Many of these guys have injury histories, others are old and coming off of injuries, and most of the rest is unproven. I don't know if we have one sure thing there. We can maybe say Jordan, but he seems kinda fragile to me. He's battled small injuries for most of his career.
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In the first team drill, the starting defensive line featured Phil Taylor (right end), Ahtyba Rubin (nose tackle) and Desmond Bryant (left end).
I like seeing this. Last year, some of us thought that was going to be our starting line...I know tab and I thought that way...and I think Mourg was too. I never did understand why they put Taylor at NT and Reubin outside.
Now, I can see moving them around and having them switch occasionally, but it seems that it is much smarter to play Reubin at NT most of the time and Taylor at DE for the majority of his snaps.
Btw----------I really like that Kitchen guy as a back-up NT. He is short and stout and has a great motor. I thought our run D improved when he was in there over Phil last year.
I like that defensive line also.
Another, set on the DLine I have heard they will use I like is on passing downs Sheard will come in as a Def End with Kruger and Mingo playing outside linebacker. Why not put your 3 best pass rushers out there at the same time.
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I hope that we keep 4 RB, because I do think that we have some talent at the position, and guys can also get banged up there. (and Tate's history is one of having some nicks and dings along the way)
If the 4th RB, possibly Crowell or Baker, is better than the last player on the roster ar a different position, then I think we;ll keep 4.
I bet the NY Giants might be interested in some first round RB cuts and for a team like the Browns, who seems to be racking RBs, they might snag one of these guys. I'm worried that someone like Crowell could be signed off the PS almost immediately.
I think Crowell will make the roster. I'd keep him over Baker.....and Baker is pretty decent. He will get picked up.
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I'm just worried because a lot of people thought we were stacked at RB last year and we see how that turned out.
I don't know you and my intention is not to offend but at some point I have to ask why any fan would assume that past events will determine the outcome of current events. Almost every area of this organization has experienced change since last season. So there is every reason to allow for different outcomes.
I'd be surprised if the trade of the magnitude of the Richardson deal will occur. I'm at least hopeful that injuries don't devastate this unit like last year. I think this team, as a whole, is more invested in running the football than last year. So the idea that because we had problems with RB last year it will happen this year seems odd to me.
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GD, it's a good point. However because every 1-2 years it's a new scheme and same results. Each year it looks better on paper but have had the same results. Our time is coming and there is no reason because its a new regime that we will see the same results as you have indicated. I like the fact that our rookie class appears to be very solid. That excites me As far as running backs, I guess we all assume OBI is going to be picked because of his versatility, but I'm not so sure. We have two fullbacks duke n it out and I don't hear OBI as one of them. So it probably boils down to Baker, Cromwell, Lewis, OBI competing for 1 or 2 positions. FYI- I'm have been an OBI fan but it is time to move on for some up n coming talent. It's almost like when Cribbs was here, loved him to death, but until our special team player wasn't our best player, we just wouldn't get where we need to go. So in the same fashion I wish OBI well!
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When it comes down to who makes the roster on the back end it comes down to 2 or 3 things.
1) Special Teams
2) Versatility
3) Up Side Developement
So with the running back position the assumtion is that the Browns will keep 4 with Tate and West as sure things with Obi, Crowell, Lewis, and Baker fighting it out for the final 2 spots.
Obi and Lewis has versatility we already know so Baker and Crowell must show that they can during this camp and pre season games.
Obi is who he is so the other 3 need to show they have more up side potential than him.
And most important will they have as much value as Obi on special teams.
If they do Obi will be out. If not he may stick. Lewis just needs to show he can be the weapon on 3rd down everyone thought he was going to be last pre season. Crowell and Baker needs to show they will be assits on special teams, ability to be versatile out of the back field. If they do they will more than likely stay before OBI.
My prediction is Tate, West, Lewis as a change of pace 3rd down weapon, and Crowell for potential.
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From years of watching this team , everyone should be objective..preseason can fool you.
The test will be the first regular season game.
But we should see how the new offense works or needs more work.
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2014 Browns training camp snapshot: Day 11 Lineup updates: Veteran quarterback Brian Hoyer was back with the first-team offense Thursday. Rookie Johnny Manziel took the reps with the starters on Monday and Wednesday. … Free safety Jordan Poyer opened 11-on-11 drills at free safety with projected starter Tashaun Gipson coming back from a sprained knee that an athletic trainer checked out again on the sideline Thursday. … John Greco and Garrett Gilkey continued to rotate at right guard with the first-team offense. … Inside linebacker Zac Diles practiced with the starters while Karlos Dansby took a day off to rest. Highs and lows: Hoyer had a rough day. He completed 4-of-9 passes in 11-on-11 drills with two interceptions. Diles and cornerback Joe Haden intercepted Hoyer passes on back-to-back passes in a team red-zone period. Another pass from Hoyer was tipped by Gipson and nearly intercepted by cornerback Buster Skrine. … On the other hand, Manziel completed 6-of-8 passes with a touchdown to receiver Miles Austin in a red-zone session. … The offense and defense competed for orange jerseys at the end of practice with coach Mike Pettine pitting the linemen from each side of the ball against each other in a field-goal kicking contest. Joe Thomas and Gilkey each made a 20-yard attempt to help the offense prevail. Armonty Bryant was the only defender whose kick was good. Desmond Bryant and Phil Taylor missed. In the interest of full disclosure, the offense had a bit of an unfair advantage. Thomas kicked and punted in high school, and Gilkey kicked in junior high school. … Practice was closed to the general public, but the Browns hosted several organizations. About 500 people were believed to be in attendance. … Chef Michael Symon watched practice from the sideline. He was the most famous guest until LeBron James strolled onto the field. Injuries: Rookie cornerback Justin Gilbert (groin), wide receiver Nate Burleson (hamstring), tight end Jordan Cameron (shoulder), inside linebacker Darius Eubanks (shoulder), offensive linemen Reid Fragel (lower leg), Randall Harris (knee) and Alex Parsons (knee), outside linebacker Eric Martin (concussion) and defensive end Billy Winn (abdomen) did not practice. … Offensive lineman Nate McDonald (wrist) remains on the non-football injury list. … Defensive lineman Calvin Barnett left practice with what appeared to be an eye injury. … Dansby and strong safety Donte Whitner were given the day off to rest. … Thomas and wide receiver Travis Benjamin returned to practice after resting Wednesday. Friday’s schedule: The team will travel to Detroit, where it’ll face the Lions in the preseason opener at 7:30 p.m. Saturday. — Nate Ulrich http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/2014-browns-training-camp-snapshot-day-11-1.511521
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I think with Johny running around its gonna give these smaller receivers more time to get open and its hard to cover those little guys for any time. A lot of playaction coming and I love the fact that Johny has really excelled with the PA fake and is freezing the defense in their tracks. I am not yet worried about the receivers but I am worrying more and more about Hoyer. His release looks off.
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Not to mention that we've upgraded the OL by letting Lauvao walk, cutting Pinkston, drafting Bitonio and signing McQuistan.
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but we are so thin in the receiving department.
Whoever is available out there - there is a reason for that. I think we will reassess our needs at WR, after preseason n Gordon's decision by NFL we then will scour the cuts and waiver wire and bring in some guys that have better prospects than what we have here (bottom of our barrel stuff) Its our only option.
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Without Gordon, it's difficult to love the WR corps. However, the potential is there to be serviceable, if not actually good. It starts with experience, moves to ability to get open and ends with the ability of the QB to get them the ball efficiently. Austin, Hawkins and Armstrong, (and Burleson if he sees the field but for now I'm referring to the other three,) all bring experience and the ability to get open. So, as is most often the case, it becomes incumbent on the QBs to get them the ball, put it where they can catch it and gain extra yards. To me, that is the biggest question mark here, not the WR corps per se. Not that I totally doubt the abilities of Hoyer & Manziel, just that, to this point, it remains unproven. Even with Gordon in there, same situation. As I see it, the issue is not with the wide receivers, it lies in the unproven nature of the passing game as a whole. (Depth and injury issues present a different dynamic, though there are some promising prospects with Snead, Johnson, and Gabriel.)
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I think our WR is essentially the island of misfit toys. Instead of likable characters we have has-beens, never-wases, the injured and Josh Gordon leading them with his red-nose.
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I think our WR is essentially the island of misfit toys. Instead of likable characters we have has-beens, never-wases, the injured and Josh Gordon leading them with his red-nose.
That's a dim and pessimistic view, and while you are entitled to it, I refuse to believe that this is what Farmer and Pettine have assembled. While at first glance this assembly may appear to be a scrap head of mismatched parts, I believe there is a core of talent there, but it will take some luck (in staying healthy) and a lot of hard work to build chemistry and consistency before we see it fully bare fruit.
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the injured and Josh Gordon leading them with his eyes.
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Actually "IF" they all stay pretty much healthy...no season ending IR stuff. On the whole the WR Unit is pretty solid. If they start dropping like flies...yeah we start to lose a lot. But its always been a position that somebody ends up stepping up that nobody really counted on. Whether its for 5-6 games or the entire season.
You never know when a Coltson or a Wexler will appear out of the wood works.
Hawkins I think will be very key and Austin brings some start quality if he remains healthy.
I think the passing game will be predicated on how successful our running game is. Cause this offense is built around the play action boot leg. As a staple play!
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First off, no offense taken. You're allowed to disagree with me, though I don't recommend doing it all that often. Secondly, my response was to the poster who wondered if other teams would be interested in any of our RBs because we seem to have a glut of RBs. Last year, we seemed to have a number of RBs, then injuries hit us hard and we struggled the whole year. I'd hate to see us start shipping out RBs and then have the same thing happen. But, I also recognize that we can't keep 70 RBs just to protect against injury. We're probably going to release a player or two that could have contributed. That's all I was getting at.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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but we are so thin in the receiving department.
Whoever is available out there - there is a reason for that.
I know and there is a reason why our receivers were available.
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Know you are busting chops...but we got our WR from FA while we were building our Roster. Way before camps. The guys available now what I meant is that they have been passed over several times and not on teams who have beefed up to 80+ on the Roster.
There are no Austins, Hawkins or Burlesons out there. They would be gobbled up for sure by several teams.
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Austin has looked really good in camp ( that he stays healthy, and Hawkins is going to be great in this offense. No matter who is guarding him (including Haden) he just makes them look bad. He has the quickness and the moves that nobody can keep up with. He is making guys look foolish in camp.
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