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West shake and bake!

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West looks fantastic.

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He really does. Big and quick


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JF looks like crap...relying on trying to run too much.That won't cut it at this level.

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Remember, JF is not playing with the first stringers either.


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It's time to take Pesir outta this game. He's gotta be pissing Pettine off!

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Remember, JF is not playing with the first stringers either.




He's not playing against first stringers, either.

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Desir has a lot of work to do!!!!


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I don't care,he's trying to run too much,thinking this is college.I've seen enough,Hoyer is our man for the year.

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It's time to take Pesir outta this game. He's gotta be pissing Pettine off!




If this was a regular season game yes he would need to come out. In the pre season rookies need to get a trial by fire like this. It is how they grow as a player so hopefully when they see time in the regular season they will not be making those same mistakes.

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Hoyer didn't have a fantastic night either. Inaccurate on almost all of his long balls.

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JOHNNY FOOTBALL!

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He's carrying that ball very dangerously, though...

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Johnny Freekin Football!!!!

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If Hoyer isn't the long term solution, why don't we let Johnny sit for the year? Like for the first time in 14 years? Let him get used to the speed of the game perhaps?


WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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That looked like a catch to me...

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Better learn to tuck the football and run. He does carry very dangerously.


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Hoyer didn't have a fantastic night either. Inaccurate on almost all of his long balls.


No he didn't,I just think he's our best option to go with.JF will just lose us games,I can tell he isn't ready for the defenses at this level.

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that was a catch


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right toe was out.


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he's gotta throw that to the FB


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I'm a fan of who gives us the best chance to win. If that Hoyer, so be it. If that's JF, so be it.

JF just missed a wide open target.

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cmon lewis


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Yeah, in a backfield crowded with capable backs... that's not how you make the team Dion!

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Yeah, in a backfield crowded with capable backs... that's not how you make the team Dion!




agreed.

my son just said JFF is a ball hog lol


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Hoyer didn't have a fantastic night either. Inaccurate on almost all of his long balls.


No he didn't,I just think he's our best option to go with.JF will just lose us games,I can tell he isn't ready for the defenses at this level.




I agree on August 9th Brian Hoyer is ahead on Manziel. But, the million dollar question is who will be ahead on Septmeber 7th.

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Hoyer didn't have a fantastic night either. Inaccurate on almost all of his long balls.


No he didn't,I just think he's our best option to go with.JF will just lose us games,I can tell he isn't ready for the defenses at this level.




I agree on August 9th Brian Hoyer is ahead on Manziel. But, the million dollar question is who will be ahead on Septmeber 7th.




Manziel needs a lot of work..

he won't be ready till next year


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Kirksey had great coverage there.

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Bademosi just got clobbered coming in on that blitz lol...

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Kirksey is covering Ebron lik a glove.

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Lol @ The JFF hate.



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If Hoyer isn't the long term solution, why don't we let Johnny sit for the year? Like for the first time in 14 years? Let him get used to the speed of the game perhaps?


Exactly...he needs to learn how to read a defense,or it will get ugly fast.If Hoyer stinks it up,or gets hurt then of course put him in,but I wouldn't rush the kid.

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Boy JF is throwing some lasers...

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Lol @ The JFF hate.




I don't think it's hate as much as it is keeping him healthy and move him along slowly.

I'd rather have a quality QB vs a torn up Tim Couch. that never develops.


I really like this Gabriel kid.


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So, Krause cut by morning?

Manziel looks pretty good. Shoulda dumped off to fullback rather than run on 4th Down, though. Manziel put that last one on the receiver's worst spot: right on the hands.

Didn't see Hoyer on 1st half yet. It's on DVR. Check later.

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So, Krause cut by morning?

Manziel looks pretty good. Shoulda dumped off to fullback rather than run on 4th Down, though. Manziel put that last one on the receiver's worst spot: right on the hands.

Didn't see Hoyer on 1st half yet. It's on DVR. Check later.




Hoyers stats are terrible but he looked 100x better than his stats.


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I don't think it's hate as much as it is keeping him healthy and move him along slowly.

I'd rather have a quality QB vs a torn up TIm Couch.


I really like this Gabriel kid.




I don't think that he necessarily needs to come along slowly ...... he needs an OL to block for him. He has been under immediate pressure too often tonight. He does need to work on his hot reads .... and he does need to work on his reads overall ......but I think that he has time to get there.

I bet that if he plays with the 1's next week, he will look extremely better.


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idk...

the game looks too fast for him

he needs time


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d -id Wicotts just learn the phrase " setting the edge" ? shhez its about the 10th time he has said it.


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One thing about Manziel I really liked is he seemed to improve with each drive, This last drive he was very sharp and his recievers let him down.

That shows the ability to process information quickly and execute. Something we really did not see from Weeden.

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