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Rish, I'm not referring to you as part of 'their level'. I am referring to people who tell other posters to go root for another team if they don't like what's going on. Only a couple of posters do that around here, and I don't recommended Mac joining that group is all I'm saying.

I thought this thread was about Manziel?

Allow me to try to divert the meanderings of the thread from evaluating posters back to evaluating Johnny Manziel.

Before last year's draft, I was pretty high on Manziel. I had him ranked as my second best QB. I thought his boom/bust potential was greater than anyone else in the draft and that scared me, but at the end of the day...I had him ranked number 2 on board of QBs.

Thus far, he has shown me that he hasn't shown me one thing to lead me to believe he is going to be an effective QB in the NFL. I am not writing a final conclusion, but man, you would think he would have shown us something positive.

He has shown me several major flaws:

--His footwork is atrocious. He even fell down on one of his completions yesterday, and that was w/no one in his face. He takes so many steps when he drops back. His feet become entangled and he doesn't square his shoulders to his target. 3-step drop? 5-step drop? Forget it.

--He has been unable to elude NFL defenders when he does run w/the ball. That magic he had in college as a runner has not been witnessed in the NFL. Instead, bigger, faster defenders run him down w/ease.

--His height has been an issue. He doesn't find throwing lanes and is forced to lob the ball over defenders, which causes the ball to float and be late. That is a terrible combination.

--His frame looks frail. How easily he was knocked out of the game yesterday was alarming.

--He is not reading coverages and has been late on most throws.

Look, it is too early to conclude that he won't make it in the NFL, but he hasn't shown me one thing that I can point to that gives me some hope.

Thus, I have to apologize to all the people who I debated with before the draft about how good/bad Manziel was as a prospect. You guys certainly seem to have called that one much better than I.

it's probably because we all know that it takes a cb a year and up to three to play well.

see: Joe Haden or Skrine Gipson.

Gems like Williams are hard to find. Next year we will be sitting very pretty with our depth at CB.

No offense, but it is harder to play QB in this league than it is to play CB.

Gilbert has been a huge disappointment this year. Almost every CB on the team has beat him out for reps.

But under your own evaluations of Manziel, Gilbert has shown flashes, while Manziel has not.

I am not going to argue about it. They both have stunk and both deserve criticism.

So on these valid points you are making, seems like these would be very obvious in practice to see and adjust...Is he just breaking down at game time and resorting to bad habits? I'd think that all of these traits can't be seen in practice or why would they put him out there? Is he a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for now until his corrections are rooted in muscle memory? It would seem that would be the only hope - that he is killing it in practice and needs to trust the changes on the field at game time...

No doubt about it.

man I have was so far off on JM... but i wont close the book yet... naive ?

Gilbert, I am liking more than the past... I think he is atrting too under stan dit a little , the light is ocming on but it's like a 20 watt one... its aint shining bright yet. His hips seem more fluid, he is actually getting his head around and sometimes even finding te ball, (Skrine still has issues with that).

His tackling... ugh did you see that one thie Sunday.. straight from the Mingo school of tackling.

Sorry off trrck meanderings... back on square/... JM has left a lot to be desired and I am sorely disappointed.

I feel your pain. I'm pretty disappointed in Manziel as well. I didn't expect him to be the second coming of Drew Brees but I thought for sure we'd see more than we have.

Hoping for it is probably the right way to put it.

As for Gilbert, CB is tough, no doubt, but by now, he should have shown more than he has. Up until we hit the 6 or 7 game of the year, I thought, no biggie about him not taking over. Mostly because I remember the same situation with Haden. It took him about that long to get going but look at him now.

But 15 games in and he still can't lock down the starting roll? That's not very good IMO. He might end up being great still, but it's tough at this point to see that clearly.

Great, once again we are the laughing stock of the nfl

Pretty much all of my pre-draft worries of Manziel have come to fruition in just 2 games worth of playing.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think he's an immediate bust. I do hope he can turn things around and become a good QB. I'm rooting for him to do well ... but last April I did NOT want to draft him #4 overall like so many other people did. I also would of preferred to have sat back and taken Teddy Bridgewater (or even Carr) at #26 had he fell there, but I STILL thought Manziel at #22 was a decent pick and was generally happy we were able to get him there.

My major concerns from back then though have all come to haunt us this season:

1) He's a "running" QB. This is really what scared me the most. It's usually either feast or famine with these kinds of guys. While the running aspect of their game can give you immediate dividends and open up a whole new level of offensive options, it can also become a huge crutch for a QB and turn them into a one-dimensional player. Unless they can develop the mental, read-the-field aspect of their game, they are going to look for one or two receivers and take off if they aren't there. It might work for awhile, but if they aren't fast enough, they get injured or they get too old ... then suddenly they are a useless QB. You're starting to see this with RG3 and Kaepernick (and previously Vick). If the running aspect of their game is neutralized, you're left with an average-at-best QB.

2) He's immature. The stories I've seen recently say that Manziel really hasn't taken game preparation seriously until the week he was named starter. That's really not what I was hoping to hear. (And this is after all the off-season stuff we've already read about) The reason Russell Wilson works in Seattle is because he's one of those first in/last out kind of guys in practice. The amount of preparation he puts into games is already starting to become legendary. JM needs to be like that if he wants to be successful. If he's not taking things seriously until he's named starter ... well we've seen what the results are.

3) He's small. And this sort of goes with the Running QB aspect point I brought up earlier. If you're not very big in the NFL and you're always running around trying to get extra yards, it's a bad combination. That's just an injury waiting to happen and now we've seen it happen just two starts into his career. Unless he can find away to minimize the contact or just make quicker reads in the pocket to avoid taking hits, it's always going to be a big concern for him.

4) He tries to "make" plays happen. Now this is sort of the "Brett Favre-ian" thing that make players heroes in the eyes of many and makes ESPN want to cover you 24/7. It's a big reason why many people WANTED Manziel in the first place. It's a trait that many people think is good to have. It's also a trait that can backfire on you horribly if you aren't completely prepared or you can't exceed the talent you face like you did in college. This is what we saw against Cincy. A guy that was really not that prepared, going against guys that could keep up with his speed. When he tried to improvise, he'd toss up an easy interception. Even Brett Favre killed many-a-playoff chances in his later years when he would do this late in games. And he had some exceptional talent.


Now this isn't to say he can't correct some of these and become a great QB down the road. I mostly excused these worries when we drafted him because guys like Gruden were applauding his study of game film and said he was always looking for ways to work-out his deficiencies. I was hoping we had drafted Russell Wilson but for now, it looks like we've drafted a smaller RG3. I'm still hoping he can realize this and BECOME more like Wilson.

Don't know if I'd call it "debate", exactly.

When I said predraft that Manziel threw ducks if he couldn't step into his throws with a wide lane, and would have footwork issues at the next level you told me I was a big mouth who knew nothing abkut evaluating QB's, that I obviously hadn't watched any tape of Manziel, and just "hated" him.

Here was my first take on Manziel, pre-draft in January, based on tape:

Ok, I only watched a couple of Manziel games before (LSU and Bama), but since every Johnny fanboy on here was gushing about his Bowl game, I watched the condensed version with every Manziel play from that game.

I will preface this by saying that since this thread is 90% a love fest that I will concentrate on his negatives and why I ultimately think that he will bust in the NFL:

1. I'll start with the probably most controversial one: he's NOT an accurate passer. Not sure what most of you see when saying this, but in that Duke game he didn't hit a receiver in stride for almost an entire half. The last TD before the half qualifies, but was more of a good read and throw to a spot, he's good at that btw, especially on the boundary. His best throw was the TD deep with 5min left to make it a 3p game.

1.1 He threw behind his receivers ALL DAY. It was the biggest constant in this game. Especially on routes over the middle, even on screens. I saw wide open receivers wait for the ball or slow down to make the catch. I doubt he will have that luxury in the NFL, where there's tighter coverage.

2. I'll follow it up with another shocker: he sucks vs pressure.
Sure, most NFL QBs, esp. College QBs do, but since everyone and their mom gush over how "electric" Johnny is at that, I was incredibly disappointed. That's the part where having 2 Top 15 OL helped him out BIG TIME. When he was rushed, he was good at evading the first rusher, but it was all backyard football after that, which won't work in the NFL. You'll never see him make that jump-in-trenches pile-hop back for a TD in the NFL. If he ever thinks about jumping into a handful of DL like that, chances are much better that he will never do it again than throwing a TD out of it. It was an electric great looking play, but it was an electric great looking COLLEGE play. Forget it.
Anyway, when he was rushed, most of his throws didn't produce. He even had a couple of those stupid rainbow passes where he didn't even know where he threw it (think the Bama game completion). In the NFL, where every 5yd of the field is covered by some defender, someone will pick it up and jog for an INT-Ret TD. Those are as bad as Weeden's flippers and like Weeden, he does them constantly. They're part of his game. To make it worse, he does them while taking big hits. I applaud him for his toughness and not wanting to give up yds, but that's anything but smart.

3. Without the threat of his feet, we would not even talk about a top 5 round QB here and considering the longevity of "feet QBs" in the NFL, it would be incredibly stupid to waste a top 10 pick on this guy.

4. His passes are in the air a long time. Sure, he covers a lot of the field. He CAN throw deep and all over, no doubt. But he's more a "dropper" than thrower. His passes lack zip, add that to the tighter NFL coverages, more rush/less protection he'll face.

5. Last but not least: I know many love his on-field personality and absolute will to win games, but I think it is a result of his overall personality, which is that of a spoiled idiot, who always got what he wanted and never had to experience losing. Imagine he pulls the crap he did with Evans with some of the no1 WR divas in the NFL, including Gordon or with the older and smarter OL who are going to block for him in the NFL, when they lose a couple of games early in his career and he faces adversity for the first time in his life. It'll be ugly. If you want a potential 1-2 win season with a good shot at the no1 overall pick and chance at a real franchise QB, go ahead and draft Johnny. He has locker room cancer/divider written all over him imho. The NFL are grown men with harsh backgrounds. They won't be impressed by a golden spoon crybaby, because that's how he will be perceived and greated, even within his own locker room.
RG3 was a model citizen, without Johnny's ego, and even with him you see and hear some light version of what I am alluding to.


After watching this game, he reminded me of another QB: Brian Hoyer, the quicker version….He isn't afraid to take risks, even though he lacks ability (arm AND accuracy)….and like him, he's all hype and unlike Hoyer, not only on this board, but nation wide.

Of course, the QBs I backed in the past (Roethli, Gabbert and Weeden) were all prototypical pocket QBs and two of them busted hard, so what do I know. It's just my opinion, but Johnny Football is not an NFL starting QB. At best he becomes a much shorter version of Kaepernick, who I think is overrated to begin with. That's his absolute high end ceiling imho, which he will never reach because of injuries and/or off field drama/ego. I pray we don't pick him. Like RG3 it'd be "electric" at first, but if you want SUSTAINED success and a FRANCHISE QB, then STAY. THE HELL. AWAY.

I wasn't saying "you guys" in a derogatory manner, just to indicate that you were one of others who is defending Manziel as similar to Wilson. We are on a forum and not engaging in private messages to posts can be directed are more than one person...just sayin'.

They've been my second team since their first year in the league.

My Pops came home with two uglyazz knit caps: one Seattle, one Tampa Bay. "Pick one. The first one to the Super Bowl gets a steak dinner and braggin' rights."

Sad to say that he passed away before his team made the dance.

Last year, I quietly said, "Finally caught up to you, Pops."

Saw my share of bad football with that team, too. It's nice to watch them play so well these days. Now, if I could just get my first team to follow suit-

Good stuff, Clem!!

May your dad rest in peace.

People wonder why this team and sports in general mean so much to some. Those moments are the ones that make it more than just liking something. It's not just the love of sports, but the connection between Father/Mother and child.

You can take away everything and we still have the memories. And, that, makes this all worth it....

Thank you for sharing!!

You get it, WV54... you understand.

He still doesn't get it!

Johnny Manziel: 'I don't think it'd be fair to give up on somebody after seven quarters of football'

BEREA, Ohio -- Johnny Manziel, who's done for the season with his hamstring injury, vowed Tuesday to take his job a lot more seriously in the future, but also says it would be a mistake for the Browns not to make him their quarterback of the future.

"I don't think it would be fair to give up on somebody after seven quarters of football,'' he said. "If that's what they were in the business for and that's what they intended on me coming in here doing, just giving them seven quarters, giving them a couple games and then looking somewhere else, I don't feel like that's a lot of commitment and sticking with somebody.

Browns coach Mike Pettine said last week that the Browns would have doubts about Manziel even if he hit it out of the park the final two games, and a "ton of doubts'' if he didn't play well because of the small sample size.

Now, the Browns have only six quarters of starting football on which to evaluate Manziel and will continue to explore every possible option at quarterback in the offseason, including the top prospects in the draft such as Marcus Mariota. They have two first round picks again, and anything can happen at the position.

"This league is a process and it takes a lot of time,'' said Manziel. "Nobody comes in this league right away -- and I mean nobody comes in this league right away and just absolutely kills it.

"That's just not the way it works. You can show signs, you can show flashes, but at the same time, you need reps, you need years of it, you need time and I think that's what happens with a young quarterback, so hopefully --- I'm not going into this offseason, into this draft having any concerns about that or any worries about that. I mean, it's just something that I'm definitely not thinking about.''

He doesn't believe that his two poor outings as a starter -- 13-of-26 for 112 yards with no touchdowns and two interceptions for a 29.6 rating and 0-2 record -- have caused the Browns to doubt him.

"No, because I know when I've been in this building that I've been doing the right things and like I said, I got one game against Cincinnati (a 30-0 loss) that obviously was a rough day for us and then I had a quarter and a half last week and then one and a half drives in Buffalo, so if that's what they think is enough to evaluate a quarterback, then that's really up to them,'' he said. "But I'm going into this offseason working extremely hard and wanting to be the guy next year and if that's not the case, then obviously we'll see down the road, but that's my mindset going into it and I'm 100% sticking with that.''

Manziel vowed that he's changed from the player he was on May 8th when the Browns drafted him. From that moment until the starting of training camp, he played the part of Johnny Football, party boy extraordinaire. He jet-setted from coast to coast, almost always being photographed with a large bottle of alcohol in hand. The Browns reprimanded him for his frat-boy lifestyle, especially after a disturbing photograph surfaced of him rolling up a bill in the bathroom of a bar.

The Browns took swift action to let Manziel know that such antics wouldn't be tolerated. They lectured him again after he was involved in a fight with a fan at 2:36 a.m., just hours before the team was about to board a plane for Atlanta. In training camp, Manziel made it clear that he was going to "live my life to the fullest and I don't care what anybody has to say.''

But after being humbled on the football field over the last two weeks, he's drastically changed his tune.

"The main thing is I'm not the guy that I've always been,'' said Manziel. "I'm not the Johnny Manziel that came in here a year ago and was talking to you guys when I first got here and I feel like I hardly know y'all, but it's a lot different obviously for me. It's been a year of growing up for me.

"This is a job for me now and I have to take it a lot more seriously than maybe I did at the first, still going home and whatever I was doing in the offseason but do I feel that had a negative effect on me? No, I don't but at the same time I am extremely committed to this and I want what's best for this team and what's best for myself and I think moving forward in this offseason I need to put in the time I need to put in and make sure I'm staying sharp because I want to give next year and the following years that I'm here, all that I have to try to be as successful as possible.''

Manziel acknowledged that he's brought his bad boy reputation on himself.

"I haven't painted the greatest picture of me of being in here and staying on top of myself,'' he said. "I'm sure with the stuff I've done off the field it's negatively affected that. But I know, and what matters to me most the guys in this locker room see I'm inn here working and these coaches know this is my life and this is my job and I'm 100 percent committed to that. That's what matters more than anything.''

He admitted that he tried to keep his wild Texas A&M lifestyle going in the pros. He even acknowledged midseason that he missed his carefree college days and wasn't ready to leave them behind.

"I think with time and through showing what I'm about and my actions of sticking to this and staying on top of this that some of that stuff will fall away with a kid who still had a college mindset a little bit,'' he said. "That has absolutely faded from my mind and now I think this year has really helped mold me into a pro and figure out how this league works and what it takes so there was a lot of learning to do throughout this year and I think it's for the better for me as a person and as a player.''

Still, he wouldn't take back the inflatable swan or the money phone or the visit to Justin Bieber's or any of it just to have studied his playbook a little more.

"I don't think so,'' he said. "I don't feel like I would have done anything different. It takes reps and seeing the stuff that these coaches and everyone talks about, seeing it and feeling it when you're actually out there and really have it stick in your head and you can hear things time and time again, but until you really experience it and feel it, it doesn't really stick as much as it would when you're just being told it.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/johnny_manziel_i_dont_think_it.html

cant figure out what have caused the Browns to doubt him?

He hasn't exactly convinced anyone he should be the QB of the future. No one expected him to kill it right away, but we also didn't expect him to be as bad as he was. Now we've seen how easily he gets injured. Even if his skills improve, I have doubts on him being able to stay healthy.

JMO

When you feel the need to apologize for not giving it your all........but then you say you wouldn't change it if you could, there's an issue.

It almost sounds like he's begging for another chance.

Most nfl qb's study, don't they? They prepare.....more than just the week they find out they're starting........don't they?

I wasn't enamored with his drafting. The more I read about him, and from the limited amount I've seen of him on the field, I'm even less enamored. Ticked off might be the phrase.

Dude flat out admits he didn't treat this job seriously.....then he gets hurt.

Sounds to similar to a kid that gets his way over and over and over, and when it finally doesn't go his way, he decides to say the right things - but John can't even do that. He's a petulant wanna be. Maybe reality will smack him in the head. Maybe it won't.

His accuracy stinks, his footwork makes him look foolish, his "strong arm" is non existent, he can't read d's, and his body motion on most throws makes you say "what the hell?"

Here's my thoughts: Growing up dirt poor makes many players bust their ass to get to the nfl. Then they blow the money, and end up dirt poor again........just as growing up rich, having every thing handed to you makes you think you're all that. And in the nfl, you aren't "all that" unless you put forth serious effort.

To hear him basically admit he didn't take this year seriously bodes extremely poorly for John. He had an opportunity, and he didn't grab it.

Man, every time I see or hear this kid speak I get more and more down on him...

Yeah, he's a dunce.

That was one of my biggest issues with him going into the draft.

It's hard enough to make the transition he would have to make, going from backyard ball to the NFL...and if you don't have it upstairs, it's next to impossible.



Then why didn't you?

He's falling into the trap that Hoyer did when he fell apart...don't politic and make your case to the media. You'll look like an excuse machine.

Have you been as critical of Gilbert as you have of Manziel?

If not.......why not? Gilbert was drafted higher and has been called out by both his coach and a respected vet for "not getting it." Gilbert had a better opportunity to win the starting job than JM did, as well.

You guys pick and choose based on predetermined opinions. That is your right, as it is my right to point out your hypocritical stances.

Browns’ QB situation muddled short, long term with Johnny Manziel sitting out finale, Brian Hoyer hurt, Connor Shaw preparing to start


“We’re going to evaluate everything we’ve done in our football operations from A to Z,” Pettine said. “And quarterback’s going to be a big part of it.”

While listing the qualities he seeks in a quarterback, Pettine described a mentally tough playmaker who leads vocally and by example, has an “encyclopedic knowledge” of the scheme and is “in lockstep with the coordinator.” Pettine said the ideal candidate also must “elevate the play of the guys around him” and, of course, just win, baby.

If the Browns don’t believe Manziel can satisfy those requirements, they’ll try to secure someone else. The organization is armed with two first-round picks in next year’s draft because of its trade-down deal with the Buffalo Bills this past May.

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns...-start-1.552097

every time I think to myself "rookie with less than 2 games" I read crap like this.

Uh........try looking at the thread title much? Here, I'll even quote the thread title for you: "Even More Johnny Manziel discussion"

Now, for me, that kind of narrows it down to discussing JM, no?

Perhaps you'd like me to laud Solomon in this thread?

Maybe I should discuss the apparent weakness of Manning's arm?

He's a celebrity acting as NFL QB. We drafted a fraudster.

The shocking part in all of this is that many bright football minds fell for it

Nicely done.

He's going to come back and tell you he's sick of this agenda posting and he's here to be the arbiter of hypocrisy.

If he's drunk or mad or whatever trigger blows his stack, he'll call you 'Mouth', which is more often than not a good sign that he will get banned within an hour for saying something stupid.

Okay..........how many times have you criticized Gilbert on other threads? How many posts did you make on the thread where Dansby criticized Gilbert? I am guessing zero.

What the hell does that matter? Honestly. What, I can't criticize one player till I criticize another player?

Hey, here's a thought: If you want to discuss my post, let's discuss it. If you want to discuss other players, let's do that elsewhere - ummm, maybe in a thread that involves the other players?

If I haven't commented in a thread that is about other players, perhaps there's a reason?

Now, in this thread about JM - let's get back to Manning......and I saw Dalton and the bengals win last night. Why aren't you discussing THOSE topics here????

Agreed. Was just getting to the NFL the goal??

With all the national press, the entire Johnny Football persona, winning the Heisman seemed to really elevate his attitude and prop him up to fail [no excuse]..the sad part appears to be that he felt like he had made it just be being drafted first round, and success was guaranteed.

At least we will see what kind of drive and passion he has - now that all the accolades have fallen and Johnny Football is now just one step from Johnny Backup.

He could take a page from Russell Wilson...ref this article
12 lesson of Greatness

"Russell Wilson credits one thing to his unexpected, but extraordinary success so far in the NFL: relentless preparation.

During a recent SportsCenter Conversation with Chris Berman, the defending Super Bowl champion QB heading into his third full season as a pro admitted that, unlike Joe Montana, the fear of losing isn’t what drives him.

I’m not afraid to lose, I’m more afraid of being not prepared to win.

Showing up to practice, or a game, not fully equipped to lead his team on the field is what keeps Russell up at night — so, what does that mean for him? Being the hardest worker, not only in the room, but in the entire league."

The article goes on to list the 12 ethics but I love this line..



OK Johnny, you have 1 more chance - let's see what you do with it

To be fair, Gilbert isn't the one making these dumbass statements.

I said it when people were crying out 'Why isn't Pettine starting Johnny?'

Professionalism vs. foolishness as seen through the eyes of a guy in his 40's who has a family.

Which way is he going to lean?

Pettine said from day 1 he didnt want to start a rookie unless it was a have to situation and with Hoyer being an 8 year vet he didnt have to. I dont know why that is so hard for people to understand.

I saw much of the same issues with Johnny in his first 2 starts as i did with Tannehill in his. Same folks that were chucking it up because he was sucking are wowed by how much improvement he has made. The game isnt to fast for Manziel, his mind is to fast for the game. That will come with more time on the field.

He will be our starter next year and have a full offseason to prepare. The kid was injured and everyone is now questioning whether or not he is faking it? Thats pathetic.

I have no doubts that we have our QB in Johnny Football. the greatest growth any player makes is from year 1 to year 2 in that first real offseason.

He is a 22 year old rookie from the spread. I have no problem with what I saw in his 3 appearances. He showed Flashes and thats what you want to see. Year 1 you want flashes and progress. Year 2 you want capable. Year 3 you want him pushing his way into that top tier of QBs.

No doubts, huh?

Staggers the imagination.

Manziel goes all over the place with his public comments. When a guy says "I have to work harder", or "I have to take this a lot more seriously", and then also says "But I wouldn't have changed anything I have done" ...... well, that flat out scares me, because it sure seems to indicate that he is giving lip service, and is not truly evaluating what he has done, and how he has prepared.

If he would have said "I really underestimated the NFL. I had so much success in college that I thought that I would be able to breeze through the league, but after just 2 short games, I can see that I am going to have to bust my butt every day of the year in order to prepare to be a great player. I cannot just show up and expect to win. I have to work hard every day, and I definitely underestimated the amount of work I would have to put in when I came into the league." If he would have said something like that, then I might be more reassured that he has "got it". However, it seems like he is saying what people want to hear .... and then "protects" himself by saying that he wouldn't have done anything differently.

I hope he figures it out.

Browns' Johnny Manziel: 'I have to take this a lot more seriously' : Fantasy News
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasy...-more-seriously

by Brandon Wise | CBSSports.com
Tue, 23 Dec 2014 4:30 PM ET


Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel said Tuesday he wants to be back in Cleveland again next year and thinks it's unfair for the franchise to give up on him after seven quarters.

"I'm not the guy I've always been. I'm not the Johnny Manziel that came in here a year ago," Manziel told reporters.

Manziel, who was declared out for Sunday's game against the Ravens with a significant hamstring injury, also said he has matured and will be extremely committed to the team in the offseason.

"It's been a year of growing up for me. This is a job for me now. I have to take this a lot more seriously," Manziel added.

He is expected to be ready for OTAs after rehabbing his injured hamstring. Manziel finished the season with 175 passing yards and a 42.0 quarterback rating. He also had two interceptions and one fumble lost.

jc

I wonder what happened to this guy.



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