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Need a turnover/hold em' to a FG, there is no way our offense can get another touchdown...

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I would bet there is dissention in the locker room over the QB issue. Just given the way they have responded to Manziel.


I bet we won't see JM this year...no reason to bring him out. He needs a lot of mechanics work so he won't learn much next week - focus on offseason. The Browns will use the injury as a reason to not play him and keep him healthy for next season - IMHO.


I think Manziel will be gone next season.

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I love Hoyer!


did you love it when he lost us a chance at the playoffs by throwing 1 TD to 8 picks?


We all know you did.


Why would I? I'm no Johnny fan boy. But you act like Hoyer was playing AWESOME when he got benched.


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Same play as the one to Gordon that they called incomplete for us ..... so it will be complete for them. crazy


Good logic, YTown. It seems that is the same type the refs use.


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Good job Desir!

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they been pickin on Desir all game long. nice play in the endzone. he's nowhere to be found mid field tho

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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
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I would bet there is dissention in the locker room over the QB issue. Just given the way they have responded to Manziel.


I bet we won't see JM this year...no reason to bring him out. He needs a lot of mechanics work so he won't learn much next week - focus on offseason. The Browns will use the injury as a reason to not play him and keep him healthy for next season - IMHO.


I think Manziel will be gone next season.


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Good play Desir.

I know someone called him out earlier, but I really don't think Desir has played too bad today. Especially, what seems to me, in his first significant playing time.


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Well so much for that

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did anyone actually think the defense would hold


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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
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I would bet there is dissention in the locker room over the QB issue. Just given the way they have responded to Manziel.


I bet we won't see JM this year...no reason to bring him out. He needs a lot of mechanics work so he won't learn much next week - focus on offseason. The Browns will use the injury as a reason to not play him and keep him healthy for next season - IMHO.


I think Manziel will be gone next season.


If Manziel is gone after 1 1/2 games in his rookie year? Farmer is gone too! you don't trade up for a guy that busts THAT quickly and survive. If Manziel is already a bust then Farmer gets fired....


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these second/third stringers are killin me here....

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You know Carolinas problem?

Cam cares more about on field celebrations than being a good QB.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I hate our front 7 and our dc and the scheme. No discipline


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Pettine and his buddy did not prepare for Cam newton running?? What were they thinking

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Originally Posted By: TI84_Plus
Good play Desir.

I know someone called him out earlier, but I really don't think Desir has played too bad today. Especially, what seems to me, in his first significant playing time.

He was shaky earlier, but he has played better throughout the game. I was pretty rough on him in the first half.


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
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I would bet there is dissention in the locker room over the QB issue. Just given the way they have responded to Manziel.


I bet we won't see JM this year...no reason to bring him out. He needs a lot of mechanics work so he won't learn much next week - focus on offseason. The Browns will use the injury as a reason to not play him and keep him healthy for next season - IMHO.


I think Manziel will be gone next season.


If Manziel is gone after 1 1/2 games in his rookie year? Farmer is gone too! you don't trade up for a guy that busts THAT quickly and survive. If Manziel is already a bust then Farmer gets fired....


Manziel won't be gone.

Zero logic to that conclusion.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Sad I hate to say this but I blame this game on the officiating and bad offensive play calling ... JMHO superconfused


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Farmer will not get fired. Manziel was a Jimmy Haslam pick!

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still plenty of time...another TD O - come on!


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am i to believe that we have 2 straight TD scoring drives?!? i thinks not.

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Get ready for a three and out and Stewart running the clock out


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OK, now it's Hoyer to Gordon time...

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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
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I love Hoyer!


did you love it when he lost us a chance at the playoffs by throwing 1 TD to 8 picks?


We all know you did.


Why would I? I'm no Johnny fan boy. But you act like Hoyer was playing AWESOME when he got benched.


Nobody is acting like he was playing awesome when he got benched. Correction, some of us are flabbergasted with the play of Mr. Football and would rather see a QB that at least knows the offense run it.

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I hate our front 7 and our dc and the scheme. No discipline


You hate everything, it seems.


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
For those that want to resign hoyer, he already turned down a backup money contract. If he signs with us he will want a big bump in money. Starter money. And for more than one year. You sign him, he IS your QB for the foreseeable future. So that's the decision right there. Do you want this guy under center for the next three or more years?
yes


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Now there is noodle arm.

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
You know Carolinas problem?

Cam cares more about on field celebrations than being a good QB.


Skill aside, Newton and Manziel are probably not that different, Golden boys who will probably be fairly average.


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Typical, finally score an offensive TD, and give the lead right back up mad


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Everyone knew they'don't score.

The Winn call was all you needed to know.


We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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As we said noodle arm


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Benji just saved the day!!!!


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What a play Benji!!!!!


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
Originally Posted By: Dawg_Traveler
Originally Posted By: Cjrae
I would bet there is dissention in the locker room over the QB issue. Just given the way they have responded to Manziel.


I bet we won't see JM this year...no reason to bring him out. He needs a lot of mechanics work so he won't learn much next week - focus on offseason. The Browns will use the injury as a reason to not play him and keep him healthy for next season - IMHO.


I think Manziel will be gone next season.


If Manziel is gone after 1 1/2 games in his rookie year? Farmer is gone too! you don't trade up for a guy that busts THAT quickly and survive. If Manziel is already a bust then Farmer gets fired....


Manziel won't be gone.

Zero logic to that conclusion.


Not to hijack the thread - but could we afford the Cap hit or would there any negative impact?


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