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To Cutler or not to Cutler, that is the question.

I am intrigued by the possible availability of Jay Cutler. While he was undeniably bad at the end of 2014, there have been stretches in his career were he has been very good. He is also one of the more physically talented QBs in the league. The problem with him is his attitude and his perceived lack of caring.

If he was available I would trade for him immediately. As soon as he was on our roster he would instantaneously become the best QB we've had since 1999.

Cutler has been the QB on multiple playoff teams (he has a career record of 61-58) and his numbers are better than anything we've experienced at QB for decades. This past season (when Cutler got benched at the end of the season for the last two games) he threw for 3,812, 28 TDs, 18 INTs, and a 66% completion rate. For his career he averages over 3,000 yards per season, 20 TDs, 14 INTs, and 62% completion rate.

There are literally no options better than Cutler this off-season. The easiest way for us to make a big jump is to improve the QB position, Cutler is the best [possibly] available option. We need to go for him if it is possible.

He has and always will be a mediocre QB. No.

He would require a monetary investment that dictated a time investment.

I would pass.

That said, he's the best option out there.

Mediocre is miles above anything we've since 1999. It is also miles above anything that is readily available this off-season. Our easiest way to improve the team is to improve the QB position. Cutler is easily the best guy available.

I agree. With Cutler, we go from worst QB situation in the AFCN to a tie for 2nd, IMO. (Yes, I think he's as good as Flacco, in the right situation.) Build a wall in front of him with a premier O-Line, draft a #1 RB, and you might put him in position to fulfill his potential.

I think with our OL (Mack Healthy) draft some depth, our RB's Are young and talented, this would be a great opportunity for Cutler behind our OL and handing to these RB's ... JMHO

I agree. As long as he's handing off and not passing the ball he should do well.

Our OL is better than Chicago but if Cutler can't put up even average numbers with Forte, Bennett, Marshall and Jeffrey how in the world is he going to be any good here?

I wouldn't mind Cutler, but I don't think they will trade or cut him. There are no better options and they just fired their coach. Seems they will try to find coaches who can get better effort from him. It's easier to replace coaches than it is to replace QB's.

He is not very good and his contract is near or at the highest in the league. Pretty silly to spend that much money on mediocre.

I don't want him, I think he's a head case, but he's head and shoulders above anything we currently have on our roster.

The guy has massive all pro talent weapons surrounding him in Chicago and still can't stop turning the ball over.

No thanks.

Does it really matter whom the Browns bring in at QB? Especially, with carousel of offensive coordinators that have come through Cleveland.

Cutler has a cap hit of $15.5 million this year which goes up to $19.5 million if he is cut.

Next year it's a cap hit of $16.5 million that goes down to $3 million if he is cut.

Like you said, he's better than anything else that is available right now. No good reason for Bears to ditch him now.

It most definitely matters. Something tells me that if our QB was successful our coordinators would stick around longer.

Do you really think they could even get a decent QB to play here with that kind of instability?

What decent QB is available besides Cutler?

Actually Cutler isn't available. He's under contract with the Bears for I believe the next two years.

It is possible he will be available through trade.

Additionally, I think it's a hefty contract $$$$$$$

So paying a guy who couldn't succeed with Forte' and the WR's he has in Chicago over 15 mil next year and over 16 mil the following year PLUS having to trade to get him makes the most sense to you?

Not me.

What is your definition of succeed? Cutler's numbers weren't bad in 2014. In 2013 he was pretty good before getting injured.

Are we really going to ding Cutler for the Bears defense ineptitude?

His contract is large, but he is better than any QB we've had since 1999. Eventually we are going to have to pay a QB. Adam Schefter has even said that the Bears might give up a draft pick to team that would take on Cutler's contract:



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My point is simply this -- Cutler, if available, is easily the best QB on the market this off-season. He is also much better than anything we've had in the past. The easiest (and hardest) way to improve a team is to have better performance from the QB position. Cutler is the only guy out there that could do that.

With the this year/next year cap hits: when does that change occur? March 11th 2015 the start of the new league year?

If that is the case, I can see the Bears cutting him March 12th and taking that $3 million dollar cap hit.

I doubt the Bears get rid of him, but if they are going for a full rebuild he could be available. They also just might be tired of him. Obviously if I was the Bears I'd keep him. The next best option is someone like Mark Sanchez or Brian Hoyer. That is ugly.

I like Jay's arm, but that is about it. His attitude is crap. With a great run game with Forte and two monsters on the outside in Marshal and Jeffery, you'd think you'd have a million pass yards but no. He's a crap decision maker.

I say stay away from Cutler unless it's at backup price, which I don't see that happening.

All JMO

Forte averaged 3.9 yards per carry in 2014. The Bears offensive line was crap.

Cutler had ten more TDs than INTs.

Yes, but he also fumbled 12 times.

The dude isn't worth the money he's earning nor the cost it would be to get him.

What would it cost to get him? Schefter says the Bears might give up something to a team willing to take his contract.

His fumbling probably has nothing to do with having no protection.

We do NOT want Cutler. Period. End of story.

Because why? Our QB standards are not high and Cutler is better than any other option. Who do you want? Sam Bradford?

Why? Because cutler sucks. Period. He is a turnover guru. He sucks. I'd rather go with conner shaw than cutler. Period.

So you have no clue what are talking about or are irrational or both?

Just cause he's better then what is out there does not make him a quality QB. Plus he is being paid a ton.


As far as Chicago's Oline they finished the year statistically in the middle of the pack.

Repeat after me: Cutler sucks. Period.

He is not, nor would be, an improvement over ANY of the qb's we have on our roster as of today. Throw in the contract he has, and it is 2 steps back for cleveland.

I have a clue, and I am not irrational.

Those of us that are willing to take other teams sucky qb's are clueless and irrational. Period.

He is definitely quality. I would say he is in the top half of the league.

Cutler is not better than Connor Shaw? Really? If we have Cutler on our team in 2014 we make the playoffs.

There is a stigma against Cutler because of his attitude. Change his name to John Smith and we would all want him.

...says the guy who just claimed Jay Cutler wouldn't be an improvement over Connor Shaw.

For you and cfrs..........that is NOT what I said. pdr, you do some pretty adroit copy and pasting.

I SAID I'd rather go with Conner Shaw than cutler. Period.

Throw in the money that cutler is due?

Bad attitude?

Here is the full sentence, unedited:

He is not, nor would be, an improvement over ANY of the qb's we have on our roster as of today.

You all-capped the word 'any' as if to stress it.

And Cutler is still the better option.

If Connor Shaw starts 16 games for us when win at most six. With Cutler we are at least as good as we were this year and probably better.