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Earlier this season, he tweeted out asking why he "has to go to classs? He came to play football, not play classes".

And now he's staying for his education?

Good for him, but not particularly consistent.

I thought that happened 2 years ago.


Possibly. I saw it retweeted this year. And to be fair, he might have been frustrated with a class or something at the time. We've been there too.

That's the beauty of Twitter - emotions run rampant.


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I admire this guy! Some of you are all about money yet you ridicule JM for his antics and the money sign. A good education is the GREATEST gift anyone can give themselves. Heck, why not have both? He's setting himself up for something greater than football.

In watching his declaration, he seems genuine, intelligent and mature. All the things JM is not.

He is giving himself time and a lifetime gift.....life after football. He said he wants to be a financial planner. Cardale Jones obviously has lifetime goals and a means to achieve them. Good for him.

Only three games is a small window to indicate great success in the NFL.


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That's an incredibly gutsy gamble on his part. I don't think it's the right call, but who am I to say?


I would have chased the money too. A few years in the NFL will earn him more than the standard college degree will in a lifetime.


Depends where he's drafted.

We talked about it on another thread...if he goes in the middle of the 3rd, he's looking at a ~$700k bonus and a $3.5m contract. But he could get cut at any time and not see much of the contract money.

Is that worth it?


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I admire this guy! Some of you are all about money yet you ridicule JM for his antics and the money sign. A good education is the GREATEST gift anyone can give themselves. Heck, why not have both? He's setting himself up for something greater than football.

In watching his declaration, he seems genuine, intelligent and mature. All the things JM is not.

He is giving himself time and a lifetime gift.....life after football. He said he wants to be a financial planner. Cardale Jones obviously has lifetime goals and a means to achieve them. Good for him.

Only three games is a small window to indicate great success in the NFL.

Play football now, go back for your education. It is all about the money, I have no shame in saying that. You have to strike when it is hot - make a few million at a minimum and manage your money right then go back to school. If it works out and he is a superstar then school isn't even necessary, but could still go back after his career is over. My .02


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I admire this guy! Some of you are all about money yet you ridicule JM for his antics and the money sign. A good education is the GREATEST gift anyone can give themselves. Heck, why not have both? He's setting himself up for something greater than football.

In watching his declaration, he seems genuine, intelligent and mature. All the things JM is not.

He is giving himself time and a lifetime gift.....life after football. He said he wants to be a financial planner. Cardale Jones obviously has lifetime goals and a means to achieve them. Good for him.

Only three games is a small window to indicate great success in the NFL.

Play football now, go back for your education. It is all about the money, I have no shame in saying that. You have to strike when it is hot - make a few million at a minimum and manage your money right then go back to school. If it works out and he is a superstar then school isn't even necessary, but could still go back after his career is over. My .02


He stated that HE wanted to be done with college when he entered the NFL so he could focus on that and nothing else. We can debate all day but what it boils down to is Cardale Jones has his priorities in line. He was actually doubting his own NFL competency based on the three games he played. That tells me something. Another championship year or at least great play gets him in an even better position.


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Originally Posted By: texaslostdawg
so the deadline is not the dead line?

Maybe he will pull a Kosar and apply for the supplemental draft. Is that possible?


He would have to graduate early, but after the draft, in order to do what Kosar did.


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Earlier this season, he tweeted out asking why he "has to go to classs? He came to play football, not play classes".

And now he's staying for his education?

Good for him, but not particularly consistent.

I thought that happened 2 years ago.


It was 2 years ago, he's obviously matured.


He absolutely has matured. I thought, for sure, that he was gone. He has really impressed me with his maturity through all of this. He obviously knew that he was not ready for the NFL, and that he needs more time on the field. This is a great move for his long term success. He could have chased the money now and probably failed at the NFL level. I think this gives him a far better chance of being a success for a long time in the NFL.


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That tweet was from Oct 2012 (he was 19). He actually was maintaining a 3.0 gpa at the time and was a scholar-athlete the terms afterwards.

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I think it was the best decision for him to make!

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He stated that HE wanted to be done with college when he entered the NFL so he could focus on that and nothing else. We can debate all day but what it boils down to is Cardale Jones has his priorities in line. He was actually doubting his own NFL competency based on the three games he played. That tells me something. Another championship year or at least great play gets him in an even better position.

I don't disagree with his decision as it is his to make. If he keeps playing like this then his payday will be a lot bigger next year, however we've seen time and time again that a player who stays - especially QB's - may actually hurt their draft stock.

I agree he hasn't shown enough to really know what he is. If he improves (or stays the same) it was a good decision, if he gets hurt or regresses it was a bad one. While you may say that he has his priorities straight, I'll bet you any amount of money that he does not stay for his senior year if he plays this good next year. He will certainly bolt to the NFL, education will not be a priority at that point IMO.


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At least he's going to get drafted now no matter what. Logan Freaking Thomas got drafted last year and he was the worst college QB I've ever seen.

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At least he's going to get drafted now no matter what. Logan Freaking Thomas got drafted last year and he was the worst college QB I've ever seen.

Very good point. I work in Roanoke, not far from Blacksburg, for about 10 days per month. I've seen plenty of Logan Thomas.


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I posted this on another Cardale Jone thread, but it seems to fit here as well.

Staying in school the right decision for Cardale the Quarterback - CBSSports.com
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Cardale Jones has been one of the most interesting stories in college football this season, and he's reached that level in only three games. But I suppose that's bound to happen when the only three games you play are the Big Ten Championship, the Sugar Bowl and the College Football Playoff National Championship.

The lights on those stages are rather bright.

And Jones has been impressive in all three of his starts, causing so many to wonder if he shouldn't have taken advantage of that spotlight and jumped to the NFL rather than taking a curtain call in 2015. We know now that Jones will return to Columbus for another season, though the writing seemed to be on the wall a day after the Buckeyes won their national title, when Jones himself admitted he didn't think he was ready for the NFL.

"It's very odd," Jones said after Ohio State's victory over Oregon. "I'm only starting three games in three years and, you know, guys play their whole career to have that buildup and to have that motivation to play in the NFL. In my personal opinion, I'm not ready for that level yet."

Jones is right, too. He's not ready for the NFL just yet.

Trust me when I say I get the fascination watching him play. He's a giant man with speed that runs over defensive tackles and linebackers in pursuit of a first down while scrambling, and he has one of the most accurate deep balls I can recall seeing on any level, let alone in college. You see the combination of his size, his speed and his arm and you get why NFL scouts would salivate over the potential there.

Hell, I do, and my job does not depend on finding a franchise quarterback for an NFL team.

But the things you notice about Jones also have a tendency to cover up the problems you don't see. Yes, he throws a beautiful deep ball. The worst deep pass I've seen him throw in three games was right on the target, it just wobbled a bit in the air. I can't say the same about his intermediate routes. Jones has a tendency to overthrow short routes, and he's just not shown to be as accurate when throwing those routes as he is when he unleashes a bomb down the field.

Another thing we need to consider is how Ohio State is using him. Urban Meyer is a smart coach. Meyer did not accomplish everything he's accomplished in his career by being an idiot. It's not like Meyer and Tom Herman decided to throw the entire playbook at Jones at the end of the season and told him to go out there and run the entire offense.

I mean, it's not a coincidence that Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott rushed for an average of 98.5 yards on 16.4 carries per game when J.T. Barrett was starting, but then saw that workload increase to 25.3 carries and 232 rushing yards per game when Jones was at quarterback. Elliott became the focal point of the Ohio State offense, with Jones serving in a complementary role.

Statistically, Jones was solid. He completed nearly 61% of his passes this season, throwing seven touchdowns to only two interceptions. When you look at the numbers a bit more closely, however, there are some concerns.

For instance, in the red zone where Jones had tighter windows to work with and couldn't just rely on his amazing arm strength, he completed only 43 percent of his passes. Now, with all things regarding Jones, it was a limited sample size of only 14 pass attempts, but that's still a pretty steep drop.

If you want to get a bit more technical, just take a look at this video of Jones against Oregon.



Did you notice anything about his reads? If not, go back and watch again, and look at Jones' head this time.

What you'll see is Jones making one read on just about every single pass. This is what I meant when I said that Meyer and Herman simplified things a bit for him. Essentially, Jones was making one decision. If his initial read was covered and he had time, he'd stick around in the pocket a bit to see if his target could get open. Sometimes this worked. Other times, when Jones saw his initial read was covered, he just took off. That worked often enough, too, as we remind you that Jones is a big, strong man, and it's hard to tackle an elephant stampeding toward you -- though I salute the noble Oregon defenders who tried to.

Again, when you watch Jones play, you see all the reasons why he's an intriguing prospect to NFL teams, and you can see why he would consider going to the NFL. Our own Will Brinson went over reasons for Jones to make the jump earlier this week.

But that doesn't mean he's ready. Were Jones on his way to the NFL, I couldn't blame him. The lure of an NFL paycheck is mighty strong, and I'm never one to tell a kid not to go get paid if the chance is there.

When it comes to his chances of succeeding in the NFL, though, Jones made the right choice. He can use another year on the college level getting reps with the Buckeyes. That's not to say that Jones couldn't learn in the NFL; he can, and many quarterbacks before him have. But he's not ready to step in and be a starter anywhere, which would limit the amount of reps he saw next year with whatever NFL team he wound up with.

At least at Ohio State he's got a legitimate shot to be the starter -- the Ohio State quarterback situation is another story entirely -- and learn more about playing the position. That will pay off for him in the long run.

The spotlight may not ever be any brighter for Jones than it is right now, but the player could be.


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I think he is making the right decision.

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Yes it's an opportunity for him to stay in school and get better as a qb. Who knows, we may be in a position to draft him next year as our future qb!!.

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When you consider the bigger picture here I think he made the smart choice...

Go back to school.

Get a full year of experience.

Improve your skills & Prove you can play an entire season.

Go win another national championship.

Be the #1 overall pick in 2016.

On top of being a College Football legend he would be looking at a ton more money.

Potentially anyway...



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I thought he was gone.. glad he stayed. I agree with the rest, good decision.

I just wander if, he changed his mind last second. You dont typically call a press conference if your staying.

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Originally Posted By: DIEHARD
Earlier this season, he tweeted out asking why he "has to go to classs?
He came to play football, not play classes".

And now he's staying for his education?

Good for him, but not particularly consistent.


Maybe someone talked some sense into him. A good tink, yavol?


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Originally Posted By: Groza76
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Earlier this season, he tweeted out asking why he "has to go to classs?
He came to play football, not play classes".

And now he's staying for his education?

Good for him, but not particularly consistent.


Maybe someone talked some sense into him. A good tink, yavol?


To be fair, it was 2 years ago. That's plenty of time to have that big of a 180.


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To be fair, it was 2 years ago. That's plenty of time to have that big of a 180.


This.

Not like he said he needed to start taking his job seriously and then the next day say that he wouldn't have done anything differently.

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