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There is no reason to cut him. He isnt gonna cost us a thing and he is a good reminder for rookies as to why it takes more than talent. Yes. Teams never cut players under these circumstances. The Jaguars still haven't cut Justin Blackmon. Yup, that's basically the situation we are in -- he's never going to play football again, but we will also never cut him.
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agree with that. just like the dez bryant "catch" dumb rule but still a rule.
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incredible draft pick pick by Tom Heckert. who was the one that said Heckert left this team in such great shape?
The past failures continue to haunt this franchise.
But Farmer will continue to sell the fact this team doesn't need a game changer at WR.
Idiot.
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I had no idea that Gordon was not allowed to take a drink of anything alcoholic...
Even if a person is busted for DUI, the local, state or federal government can't dictate the individuals right to have a beer.
Partying with Johnny Football..someone accused of being an alcoholic...was not a very good idea.
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According to reports there will be no appeal. He's done for a year. Not doubting you. Sadly, if true, the guy is done. Hope he's one heck of a car salesman.
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But Farmer will continue to sell the fact this team doesn't need a game changer at WR.
Idiot.
Seatte and NE are doing pretty good without Top 5 WRs.
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But Farmer will continue to sell the fact this team doesn't need a game changer at WR. I am wondering when Farmer said that.
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Even if a person is busted for DUI, the local, state or federal government can't dictate the individuals right to have a beer.
Sure they can, and do in some instances. The only thing that matters is he knew he wasn't allowed to consume alcohol because of the DUI and did it anyway. The guy just doesn't care, he never has.
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Even if a person is busted for DUI, the local, state or federal government can't dictate the individuals right to have a beer.
Sure they can, and do in some instances. The only thing that matters is he knew he wasn't allowed to consume alcohol because of the DUI and did it anyway. The guy just doesn't care, he never has.
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This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.
The NFL is just silly.
And I am not one to defend Gordon.
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That's the thing, he could probably drink one glass of wine with dinner and be fine. If he still had alcohol in his system when tested, it likely means he was hammered.
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It's time to cut bait. Obviously he is just never going to learn.
He was suspended for 2 games, because of his 2nd failed test in his 2nd year.
He then was suspended for 10 games last year as a result of a failed drug test. He also was suspended for a single game for being a general butthead in the final game.
Then he goes and does this garbage.
Time to say goodbye. Talent is great, but if you are no help while on the field, or you can't get on the field because of your own stupidity, then you can be the most talented player on the league, and still will be useless. Gordon is now useless.
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Simply amazing this kid cannot get out of his own way.
The infractions do not seem to be out of the ordinary- like drinking, but if your job (of millions) no less is on the line you must show discipline that you care.
I am really hoping he is booted off the team. The quicker he goes the quicker we can start planning w/o him.
We were held hostage by this guy last year, no more should this be tolerated.
As another posted said in another thread, I am cooling quickly on JF who he was with, I have one foot dragging on him too.
Lets concentrate on moving this team forward,
We have the picks to make a difference. If Gilbert gets it together(which I think he can)we can get through this "re-do"
So what do you think they are talking about on the FO three day retreat together- LOL
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Thinking Gordon can help our team or be held accountable: 
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Statement from Browns Team Spokesperson:
"Clearly we are very disappointed to hear the latest report regarding Josh. At this point, due to the confidential nature of the NFL’s substance abuse policy, we have not been made aware by the league of a failed test. We are in the process of gathering more information and will provide further comment at the appropriate time.”
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But Farmer will continue to sell the fact this team doesn't need a game changer at WR. I am wondering when Farmer said that. He's said it multiple times. Wide receiver is NOT a priority to him. And he's proven that by his actions. Last draft he knew before hand that Gordon would be suspended. Yet he didn't draft a single WR in a draft laden with them. Now that Gordon has been busted yet again and WILL be our for the entire 2015/16 season, you can bet the farm on one thing. Farmer will not draft a wide receiver in April. He may pick up a cheap FA to fill in here or there. But finding a top notch weapon is of no concern to Farmer.
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Farmer will not draft a wide receiver in April. He may pick up a cheap FA to fill in here or there. But finding a top notch weapon is of no concern to Farmer. People don't actually believe this, do they?
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No one knows for sure how this will turn out, time will tell. But after this, how much faith can his team mates have in him. Just don't see how after all the chances he has received from management and players. Sad, all that talent and yet let drugs and alcohol ruin a career playing a game that he supposedly loved.
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Thinking Gordon can help our team or be held accountable: It's funny that this is a scene from Goodfellas where Tommy is talking about being a Clown.
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I think cfrs's point was that Farmer is not willing to use a high draft pick on a WR. He believes they can be picked up later in the draft. Frankly, I'm not sure he's entirely wrong.
I don't believe that he has ever said we don't need a game changer at WR. I'm also pretty sure that "not finding a top notch weapon" is not something that Farmer is trying to do in the draft.
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Farmer will not draft a wide receiver in April. He may pick up a cheap FA to fill in here or there. But finding a top notch weapon is of no concern to Farmer. People don't actually believe this, do they? Do I think he's constantly looking for the next Megatron? No. Do I think he doesn't care AT ALL about good WRs? No. We don't need a Calvin Johnson (or a Josh Gordon) we just need a couple guys that can run good routes, and catch the ball.. Also being legally eligible to play helps..
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I think cfrs's point was that Farmer is not willing to use a high draft pick on a WR. He believes they can be picked up later in the draft. Frankly, I'm not sure he's entirely wrong.
I don't believe that he has ever said we don't need a game changer at WR. I'm also pretty sure that "not finding a top notch weapon" is not something that Farmer is trying to do in the draft. i still don't understand why people don't want weapons for our QB. simply mind boggling.
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I think cfrs's point was that Farmer is not willing to use a high draft pick on a WR. He believes they can be picked up later in the draft. Frankly, I'm not sure he's entirely wrong.
I don't believe that he has ever said we don't need a game changer at WR. I'm also pretty sure that "not finding a top notch weapon" is not something that Farmer is trying to do in the draft. i still don't understand why people don't want weapons for our QB. simply mind boggling. Who doesn't want weapons?
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I'm not disputing weather he broke the rules.
I just want to point out the irony that Gordon will get suspended for Alcohol..
When next week 1/3 of the SB commercials will be Budweiser.. Shhh! The NFL doesn't want you to think about. HOW ABOUT THOSE DEFLATED BALLS, HUH GUYS?
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Tom Brady has two weapons.. An undersized WR and a TE.
Seattle has a slew of guys that wouldn't be considered great #2s..
Find me a QB, then I might start worrying.
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Ray Farmer seems generally unimpressed with what a big-play wide receiver brings to an offense.
"I would say 'how important are those guys?''' Farmer told 92.3 The Fan on Wednesday (via the Cleveland Plain Dealer). "Name the last big-time receiver to win a Super Bowl. Name the last mega-guy. (Gordon) matters to me because I like the guy and I think he's a really good player, but at the end of the day, when you look at the teams that have these mega-receivers, name the last guy that won a Super Bowl?... There are none. The last guy that really helped his team get there was T.O. (Terrell Owens).''
The reality is that you put guys in there that can play roles,'' he said. "If a guy is a mega-talent, you're not just going to go out on the street and find another one. If a guy is not there, you've got to parcel it. You've got to take a guy that can take the top off, you've got to take a guy that can be a possession guy. You've got to take a guy that can play a variety of roles and then you hodgepodge it. You move guys around, you put them in different situations, you use a rotation." In other words, he is fine with a hodgepodge receiver corp where NO reciever gets more than a couple touchdowns a season. And if scoring 12 passing touchdowns a season is the goal, he's RIGHT ON TARGET. I see nothing in his statement to think he will even try to get us a weapon. He's perfectly content with what we had last year.
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When was that comment made?
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I just have 2 things to say:
Goodbye Josh!
Hello Amari Cooper!
Make it happen FARMER!
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When was that comment made? does it matter? thats your proof.
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I think cfrs's point was that Farmer is not willing to use a high draft pick on a WR. He believes they can be picked up later in the draft. Frankly, I'm not sure he's entirely wrong.
I don't believe that he has ever said we don't need a game changer at WR. I'm also pretty sure that "not finding a top notch weapon" is not something that Farmer is trying to do in the draft. How many wide receivers did he take last year "later" in the draft? After finding out the ONLY weapon we had on the roster would be gone, what did he do in the draft? In free agency? It's all god. We will have the usual WR group that gets 2-3 TD's a piece. And next year we can count on scoring maybe 15 TD's in the air. And yes,I know, that Tom Brady and Peyton Manning can win with scrubs at the position. When we have one of those guys at QB then we can afford to have nothing but scrubs at WR. Until then however, having a WR that can actually SCORE would be really nice. Having TWO of them would be even better. It would mean teams couldn't load the box on us each and every week DARING us to throw the ball. But hey, if our group is fine as is, and 12 passing touchdowns is the aim, so be it.
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When was the last time you liked a decision the Browns made?
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When was that comment made? does it matter? thats your proof. It definitely matters. If I told you that comment was made two days before the draft would you be more or less likely to believe it?
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When was that comment made? Right after last years draft when everyone was asking him why he passed on taking ANY WR when he knew full well Gordon was suspended.... That wasn't the only time he's mentioned the position either. I can't seem to find the article, but during the season he was asked about it again and he said soemthing like "I may come off as stubborn but I don't think WR is that important, they only touch the ball X amount of times. Guards are on the field every play" Or something like that. That is NOT a direct quote but it he did say something to that effect.... I'll keep looking for the article....
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CFL anyone?  I'm sorry guys, I just can't stand people who are so blessed with talents that we all wish we had (what guy on here hasn't dreamed of taking one to the house in Cleveland Browns Stadium?) and just dumps on it. I wouldn't cut him just so he couldn't go to Canada and act like nothing happened and if I'm that car dealer I don't take him back either! How 'bout you just go to Mc'donalds and flip burgers for a year-loser!
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When was that comment made? Right after last years draft when everyone was asking him why he passed on taking ANY WR when he knew full well Gordon was suspended.... That wasn't the only time he's mentioned the position either. I can't seem to find the article, but during the season he was asked about it again and he said soemthing like "I may come off as stubborn but I don't think WR is that important, they only touch the ball X amount of times. Guards are on the field every play" Or something like that. That is NOT a direct quote but it he did say something to that effect.... I'll keep looking for the article.... Got it. I only agree with Farmer on this premise if a team has a very good QB. We do not have a very good QB.
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When was that comment made? Right after last years draft when everyone was asking him why he passed on taking ANY WR when he knew full well Gordon was suspended.... That wasn't the only time he's mentioned the position either. I can't seem to find the article, but during the season he was asked about it again and he said soemthing like "I may come off as stubborn but I don't think WR is that important, they only touch the ball X amount of times. Guards are on the field every play" Or something like that. That is NOT a direct quote but it he did say something to that effect.... I'll keep looking for the article.... Got it. I only agree with Farmer on this premise if a team has a very good QB. We do not have a very good QB. I agree. If we had a young Tom Brady or Peyton Manning then WR might not be as important as a lineman that can keep them safe. And in the case of Seattle, if we had the leagues BEST defense, and Beast Mode in the backfield, then a stud WR that can score 15 TD's might not be as important. We have none of those things. And in the new NFL, where scroing has gone through the roof, having weapons that can score is pretty important. More important that it was 10 years ago when receivers were afraid to go over the middle.... Those days are gone....
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By the way, does everyone see why I refer to him as "Meathead" now? Meat is certainly, without a doubt, DEAD FROM THE NECK UP! He's proven this to be true time and time again. Peace
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By the way, does everyone see why I refer to him as "Meathead" now? Meat is certainly, without a doubt, DEAD FROM THE NECK UP! He's proven this to be true time and time again. Peace I absolutely see why now... I am upset, but I do have to say I think it's a bit harsh if indeed it was just alcohol. I'm seeing different reports, one says weed, the other says alcohol.
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JC.. Well, if you have a mock draft out there, I suggest you go back and re-configure your draft. WR early would be my suggestion.
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