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Yeah, but what about Clinton Portis. . .

(This is a joke. I am only joking. I repeat, I am only joking).

And Reuben Droughns had a 1,000 yard season for us!

I thought I read an article about Josh checking himself into rehab. And that he said that "they" said he didn't have a problem and released him...

Gordon went to "rehab" for one day in Malibu. And he did it in the days after his DUI. And he only did it after he had been caught multiple times.

As far as we know Manziel has never been caught doing anything illegal.

Agreed. And the really scary thing is, the same man that drafted Gilbert and Johnny Rehab in the first last year, is the same guy drafting twice in the first round this year. The same guy we are all hoping will find us a QB. And he's the one saying a stud QB is unnecessary. Will he even try to find us one? Or will he simply settle for Johnny and bring in an old vet so Johnny has no competition? Farmer scares the bejesus out of me.

steve, I thought that was one of the worst articles I've ever read. I feel dumber for reading it. It had no point other than to discuss an immature kid from a wealthy family and his enabling parents. It was so awful I could barely get through it.

I have even less hope for Manziel now.

If that's right, that's so wrong.

I know they will get a lot of players who need help before it gets too bad - NOT TO... smh

If we're talking about substance abuse, outpatient treatment is usually recommended following an in-patient treatment program. I think it matters what he's diagnosed with. In other words, Brandon Marshall once entered treatment but it was for a personality disorder, not substance abuse. We don't know exactly what Johnny's being treated for.

I am far from a bitter human. Just because I don't buy in to every single move the team makes and pretend everything is always sunny and bright in Browns town.... You may think the last 15 years was perfect but I'd really like to see this tema actually play good football before I kick.

You're right, the Browns misfortunes and pitiful record isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things. But we are here on this board discussing those misfortunes. If that bothers you, perhaps YOU should go get laid or have a drink. you're in the wrong place if talking about the Browns bothers your sensitive nature....

lol. Yeah, those guys tore it up after leaving Denver, I'll give you that

Just clicking

Perhaps I missed it, but what is it he's checking into rehab for.. Drugs, booze, prescription meds?

Do we know?

Anyway, If he checked himself in either with the help of others or on his own, good for him. I'm not going to pick on a guy that seeks help.

I don't see anything wrong with it, actually.
You enter treatment of your own accord, then that means that somewhere, on some level, there's a problem with substances - either real or perceived. It doesn't matter what your motivations are, because it isn't the sort of thing that you do on a whim. You've not randomly booking a trip to Maui for a weekend, you're going to a place where people receive treatment for addiction and substance abuse.

If you leave rehab and then have an incident in public and nothing happens, the NFL would pretty much look like it's asleep at the wheel. Not only that, but I think you're doing the player a disservice.


As I'm sure you're aware, people hit rock bottom when it becomes more painful to continue doing what they want to do than it is to surrender and give up doing what they've been wanting to do; when they finally stop fighting it and surrender to it, that's when progress begins.

haha I posted this a month ago.


@NFL_Midwest · Jan 8
When i ask myself. Why does Johnny Manziel always look high as a kite. I try to avoid the obvious answer. #Browns

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought HIPPA laws prevent disclosure.

Oh, you know what, I think you are correct.. But we all know it will leak out at some point,, stay tuned

If it's not Alcohol and maybe Cocaine, I will be shocked. In fact, if it is anything but Alcohol and cocaine I would be surprised.

So now we have to work on little johnny and his rehab? Have the Browns become a counseling agency? When do they get to work on football like mechanics, fundamentals and familiarization with the playbook? Those issues are not exactly counseling/rehab focus issues.

.Second year coach, new OC, new QB coach and the are surrounded by projects. Haslam/Farmer really know their stuff!!!!

lol, I thought it was interesting in that it painted him of essentially having the mind of a child, and that he has had serious problems dealing with the attention he draws to himself for years. It begs the question of how in the world, knowing all this, did they draft him?

I know that after reading the article, it even further makes me question the decision making on whoever made the call to pull the trigger on draft day.

It's obvious we bungled the pick. But if Manziel was ever going to turn it around he needed some sort of moment like this where he takes some sort of corrective action.

It very well could be we are seeing the first acts of this coaching staff...

Just may be they have talked with JM and have convinced him to turn his life around... and for him to become the JFF he claims to be...He has to get help..

All assumption... but the timing seems to be close... New young coaches..days later in rehab... who knows.

General Reply: Kid just turned 22 years old, he doesnt know how to have fun without alcohol. At that age, I didnt either. chase tail and drink till you drop. I hope the best for him and his family. I personally think he is showing a lot of wisdom and maturity in taking this step. Seeing what is happening with Gordon may have had some benefit after all. Thats why u keep gordon, you can remind each rookie, you can go stand next to Gordon with all the talent in the world but the game will continue without you.

If he took this step himself, that will be a good thing. People with problems sometimes don't see it. But if he realizes he has a problem, and makes the decision himself, that is a great first step.

I will be pretty surprised if he's still in the NFL after this upcoming season.

Wow, some of you guys are class acts.

I hope the kid goes through his voluntary/self-checked in rehab, gets his head on right and starts next season if no other reason but so I can watch you cry about.

I also hope everyone bashing him for this never has children, you're not cut out.

It must be internet time at the rehab facility.

Keep your chin up, John.

That's a bit harsh, don't you think?

Manziel has been nothing but a used car salesman since he has been here. He hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt. If his problems are legit, I'm sure every single person on here hopes he gets the help he needs. But since he has lied every step of the way, he has a lot to prove, and people have a right to be skeptical.

Bottom line, it doesn't matter. He's trying to make the right decisions. No need to kick the kid around. He's still has some growing up to do. I hope he finds the answers and help he needs.

This thread is pathetic.

Well, I have been saying for awhile that I thought he might be an alcoholic. Been around too many of them.

I hope this move is legit and that he realizes he really needs help.

My skeptical side wonders if he knows he is about to get popped by the NFL and that he is entering rehab to offset the negative attention that getting suspended by the league would bring.

As it stands now, the NFL could suspend him for entering rehab. This might just be a PR move by Manziel and his handlers, because the NFL will not tell us why they suspended JM. It's kind of like the Josh Gordon and cough medicine fairy tale.

I hope that isn't the case here and Johnny is getting help on his own, but it does seem out of the blue.

I hope whatever problem JM has he gets them straightened out. That is the most important thing for him right now. My prayers are with him.

Never thought of that. Sadly for us fans and sadly for him, it's a very reasonable assumption to make though.

must of been a heck of a party

I hope this is a serious move by the guy, and not something he is only doing because the team asked him to.

I know a lot of 22 year olds that party a lot. It happens. I did it quite a bit. I don't really hear about him drinking other than on his days off, but we are obviously not around him 24/7. But maybe he does have a problem? Either way maybe it will help him look at his job differently. The chance to play in the NFL is pretty special, and in the blink of an eye, you can be gone. There is a good chance that if he screws up, he may be done in the league. Just like Tebow, nobody wants the circus if there isn't a payoff.

You ever going to add anything useful to these forums or just keep on trolling with your useless crap? Just wondering.

Why you asking so many questions? lol

I can say with 100% honesty that i don't have the answer to any of them.

If....and i do say if...he went to rehab for the right reasons, then it can only help.

Then he might develop into a solid qb.

If he has a problem and is doing this for the wrong reason, then I would say his chances of becoming a solid qb drop to next to nil.

I CANNOT believe some of the posts in this thread. Most of you all supported the JF pick, and and even greater number wanted Hoyer benched to see him play, and now most of you act like you knew it all along.

JF has proven once again he is a loser we have seen this all before and we know how this ends for him and for us. I supported the pick, I was wrong. But one thing I got absolutely right is be careful what you ask for.... You just might get it.

...says a guy who just expressed a desire to see Browns fans cry out of spite.

I can agree with it when you put it that way. I just equate the substance abuse program as something that exists for players who did something and got caught. i.e. DUI, using drugs...etc. They are i would think sent to treatment, tested, and are 1 step from missing games.

A player that willingly admits himself to treatment is imo a lot closer to accepting that they have a problem.

Kind of like one did something positive, and the other negative.



I guess like you said it doesn't really matter.