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would have leaked out through the browns org anyway so better off the announcement so it didnt look like they were trying to hide something. jmo

The completely cynical side of me says this is his PR team rebranding the Johnny Manziel product and repairing his image.

The 'bad boy' persona became a punchline.

he is doing it or being made to do it?

I'm not sure why they let it out. Maybe the were getting ahead of a story that someone already had? Anyway, we all know that JM is the top news story round the clock so it could be that some reporter found out and was about to release the news.

Who knows.

I mean, he apparently went in last wednesday and we're just hearing about it yesterday.

or, I guess it could be that they didn't want it to come out on SB Week.. I just don't know, but I don't know that there is anything sinister about it either.

Josh Gordon went to rehab quietly, didn't he?

I don't think the team would be allowed to announce that without permission, nor would they if they could.

Did the team announce it? Or did JM or his minions let the cat out of the bag?

Family representative

CLEVELAND -- Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel entered treatment on Wednesday, adviser Brad Beckworth told ESPN.com on Monday.
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Who is Brad Beckworth? He's the one that told ESPN. According the article posted in another thread.

Is this the guy:

http://www.nixlawfirm.com/Attorneys/Bradley-E--Beckworth

It was never clear as to whether he went voluntarily, or under pressure from the team and/or league.

Much like the cases of Favre and Manziel, it's doubtful the question will ever directly be answered.

well lets see.

Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam will go offsite with top brass over next 3 days

We're going to be together Sunday, Monday and Tuesday......

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_browns_owner_jimmy_h_20.html

then johnny is in rehab Wednesday. i guess it could be coincidence.....

Hmmm...that's interesting.

Interesting notion.

As far as the team mandating treatment. I think it's certainly a high likelihood.

Guy you invested a high pick in spends the year looking visibly wasted or coked up, and then proceeds to bomb monumentally on the field...

I'd say rehab or else. No question.

Other QBs who have been in rehab while still in the NFL?

Brett Favre.

That's a 100% success rate! There's a precedent!

If Manziel starts sending out dick pics then we might really have something.

Bring back John Madden!

J/C here...

I can't help but think this is REALLY bad timing for the Browns. Season Ticket renewal invoices were just sent out a few days ago...with increased prices. And now the "maybe" future QB is in rehab and the other QB has no contract. Yikes. For people that were on the fence about renewing to begin with, this might have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

But, there are certainly more important things at work here and I hope JFF does what he needs to do to get healthy.

j/c:

Sometimes.........I wonder if it is a lack of reading comprehension or just plain agenda that fuels some arguments.....

I sure as heck don't think this was a publicity stunt.

I do think he has an alcohol problem. I said it for the last several weeks. 32, can I stop being careful now?

Did you guys read the comments made by Manziel's father? Man, that was disturbing. It sounds like he might have some real psychological issues.....which would lead him to drink and completely defies the contention that he is just a 22 year old kid out having fun. He has issues.

That means he needs HELP! Not denials from his fans. Didn't you guys learn anything from the Gordon situation? Sheesh.

I am sorry if this upsets anyone, but I have to wonder if he checked himself into rehab because he has already failed a drug test and he knows the NFL office does not give out the details of the suspension. Look, I hope that isn't true, but it most certainly is a possibility and it doesn't make me a hater.

I have been concerned about JM recently and have said I thought he was an alcoholic because he screws up, says all the right things, and then does the same crap again. Heck, he actually went out and got wasted the very same night after he made an apology earlier in the day. That's a clear sign of a huge issue w/alcohol.

I am not trying to bad-mouth the guy. I am simply saying he has a problem and it needs to be dealt with. It will NEVER go away. It's always going to be right there. This kid needs help. He needs a support group. He needs constant monitoring.

I worry about him. Some of the comments his dad made really shocked me. I think he is even a suicide risk. Don't freaking make excuses for him. Don't pooh-pah his circumstances. He doesn't need that. He needs help and it is imperative that the Browns give it to him.

That isn't mean or uncaring, tex. It's actually just the opposite.

agreed, the exact opposite... a lot of what you said I hope he has come to realize on his own.

You know my wife just mentioned that maybe its not alcohol or drugs per se, but just the fact that he continues to make destructive decisions / behaviors and that he knows (hopefully) the pattern has to stop.

Bottom line whatever the demons lets hope JM the man gets them controlled, then we can worry abut JM the player.

I've had similar sentiments for a long time.

He never appeared able to handle his booze, but what was more alarming than anything is was that he kept repeating the same mistakes, over and over. They carried over from College Station.

The Browns were measured early on, but Haslam in no uncertain terms said 'cool it' and he more or less defiantly kept on. I think the photo with Beiber and Mayweather came out a day or two later (I wonder what three rich young men are doing in the middle of the night without women present?).

He never seemed able to conduct himself, which was a bigger problem/warning sign to me than going out often.

Good post. We are in complete agreement about that.

It is NOT a publicity stunt. It could be to pre-empt an NFL sanction, but that is not the same thing. He is putting all his cards on the table by doing this, because if he goes to rehab and THEN gets photographed swigging champagne or rolling bills, he will be viewed as a total loser. That's sad, but it s the truth and he knows it.
We fans, most of whom were genuinely excited when he got picked, and remember what a special player he was at A&M, should be glad and should send him positive vibes, prayers, etc. We may have the guy we hoped for. Or we may have a guy who just isn't big enough to make it in the NFL but still turned his life around and set a good example. We'll know by training camp.
And one more thing: Maybe he is a jerk or a spoiled frat boy. But he's mostly hurt only himself. And he hasn't raped anyone, which makes him a better man that the Hall of Famer in Pittsburgh or the kid from Florida State who might go No. 1 overall.

As you wish; merely trying to keep you from a trip to the "Sin Bin".

It's not about as I wish.........it was about recognizing that this kid has a very real problem and that he needs help.

It's not about punitive. It's about correcting the issue.