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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
I thought there was some smack going on in here, then I see it's just Elmer Fudd again. Which means no smack is going on.


The irony!

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I thought there was some smack going on in here, then I see it's just Elmer Fudd again. Which means no smack is going on.


This could be irony or this could be projecting.

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#1. Who is Elmer??

#2. Who I root for does not really matter. What matters is the mindset of the Cleveland fans. What matters is that your crooked front office no longer gets away with robbing the fans blind. What matters is that the once proud Browns organization gets restored. It's good for the Nfl.

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Way to screw that quote up Mr 0.0 rolleyes


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#1. Who is Elmer??


You are Mr Fudd. Now do you need us to be vewy, vewy, qwiet while you try to hunt bwons fans? It won't help you will still suck at it, but at least then you might be able to hear all those voices in your head fighting.

Oh and you still tried to skate around the answer.


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I am so tired of Steeler fans coming here and rubbing our noses in it. I have a good feeling about next season. The Steelers and Ben will be even older and our young guys are going to start showing the fruit of critical playing time this season. JFF will surpass Big Ben and our defense is only a player away from top 5. You heard it here first.

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The Pittsburgh Steelers history of cheating

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The New England Patriots, their quarterback and head coach have been marred in the recent DeflateGate scandal to the point of it being overkill. Nonetheless, some wise, and extremely bored, football fans took it upon themselves to dig into the NFL history books and find every possible scenario each NFL team has been caught cheating in some way, shape or form.

Believe it or not, the Pittsburgh Steelers are listed as the second team of all 32 in terms of biggest cheaters in NFL history. Before you click on the link to take you to YourTeamCheats.com and tell the authors how you feel, you should know a few things about the site. First, obviously the Steelers would have more cheating claims than a team like the Baltimore Ravens as the Ravens haven't been in the NFL as long. Also, some of the claims against the Steelers are very mundane and to the point of sheer assumption.

Take a look at some of the highlights of the Steelers' claim to fame in the cheating game:



Impedegate (2013)

TEAM: The Pittsburgh Steelers

SUMMARY: With 6:26 left in the third quarter of their 2013 Thanksgiving night game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Baltimore Ravens receiver Jacoby Jones took a kickoff back and had to alter his path because Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin had stepped onto the field. Jones returned the kick 73 yards, but was tackled by defensive back Cortez Allen on the play, and Baltimore had to settle for a field goal on the drive.

Said NFL VP of Officiating Dean Blandino: "In that instance, the referee could basically penalize the team whatever he deems equitable, which could include giving the Ravens a touchdown. That's not the case here, but certainly coach Tomlin was in the white. He should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct."

In December 2010, the league fined the New York Jets the same amount after a sideline wall established by strength coach Sal Alosi resulted in Alosi tripping Dolphins cornerback Nolan Carroll. Alosi was suspended indefinitely by the team and resigned in January 2011.

VICTIM: Baltimore Ravens (Specifically, WR Jacoby Jones)

PUNISHED? Yes

PUNISHMENT: Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was fined $100,000 by NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Ray Anderson for stepping onto the field during his team's 22-20 loss to the Baltimore Ravens. The Steelers could have lost 2014 draft picks if the play had impacted the Ravens 2013 playoff standing. It didn't.

Cheapsgate (6x since 2010)

TEAM: The Pittsburgh Steelers

SEVERITY:scale

SUMMARY: Players who freely use illegal hits as part of their game give themselves an unfair advantage versus those who play by the rules. A team's cheap shots fined below $25K are not counted at all. Individual cheap shots are penalized very lightly (0.25 cameras per $25K fine). It's only when a team puts together a string of cheap shots that the overall severity rises to a significant level. I'm looking at your Detroit.

Example 1: $35K fine with no suspension = 0.35 cameras. Example 2: $55K fine and one game suspension = 0.55 + 0.75 = 1.3 cameras. Example 3: $125K fine and two game suspension = 1.25 + 0.75 + 0.75 = 2.75 cameras. A team's cheap shot points are summed and rounded to the nearest whole or half camera rating.

OLB James Harrison (2010: $25K for roughing the passer)
OLB James Harrison (2010: $75K for a hit on a defenseless player)
OLB James Harrison (2011: suspended 1 game for illegal hit on a QB)
S Ryan Clark (2011: $40K for helmet-to-helmet hit)
G Chris Kemoeatu (2011: $25K for a late hit)
ILB Terence Garvin (2013: $25K for a hit on a defenseless player)

Notable incidents below the established criteria:
WR Antonio Brown (2014: $8K for karate kicking Browns P Spencer Lanning in the face)

VICTIM: The entire league

PUNISHED? Yes

PUNISHMENT: Each player was fined the amount listed with Harrison receiving a one-game suspension in 2011 as well as one of the largest fines ($75,000) for an illegal hit. Since 2010, the Steelers have the most players fined or suspended for blatantly dangerous and illegal hits on opponents.

Crampgate (2012)

TEAM: The Pittsburgh Steelers

SUMMARY: In November of 2012 the NFL fined Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders $15,000 and the Steelers organization another $35,000 for Sanders' faking of an injury against the Cincinnati Bengals on Oct. 21, 2012.

Said NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Ray Anderson: "Despite the account given by Sanders during our November 2nd meeting, neither the video sequence of the pertinent plays nor the observations of the on-field official support Sanders's contention that he was in severe pain, either before, while falling to the ground, lying on the ground, or when he was being assisted in leaving the field," said in a letter to the Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert and Sanders.

"Moreover, after missing the one play that is mandatory pursuant to the playing rules, and receiving no apparent treatment, Sanders returned to the game for a fourth down punt, on which he out sprinted all of his teammates 26 yards down the field, arriving at the ball ahead of all other Pittsburgh players, and then downing the ball.

"The video of the play shows Sanders running swiftly and effortlessly toward the punted ball, and then leaving the field with no sign of discomfort. Sanders also played the rest of the game without difficulty. Finally, there is no indication that Sanders has had prior cramping issues while in the NFL, and no Steelers' medical records or information of any kind were presented that would support a finding that he incurred a cramp that was both as serious and as transient as Sanders suggests."

VICTIM: Cincinnati Bengals

PUNISHED? Yes

PUNISHMENT: The NFL fined Sanders $15,000 and the Steelers organization another $35,000. Also: NO SUPER BOWLS SINCE CRAMPGATE!

These are just a few of the many the website lists of the Pittsburgh Steelers' history of cheating in the NFL. Take a look for yourself and see why the Steelers were able to garner 'Elite Cheater' status. saywhat


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TEAM: The Pittsburgh Steelers

SEVERITY:scale

SUMMARY: Richard Rydze, a Pittsburgh Steelers team doctor from 1985 to 2007, was indicted in 2012 for his long history of purchasing and illegally prescribing anabolic steroids, human growth hormones and painkillers. The physician was also charged with health care fraud for falsely diagnosing more than 90 patients with pituitary dwarfism so they could receive human growth hormones and drugs meant to counteract the side-effects of steroid use.

Rydze was also on the customer list of an Orlando, FL, pharmacy that was raided in February 2007 as part of an interstate steroids ring. Rydze was questioned then about buying $150,000 worth of testosterone and human growth hormone on his credit card in 2006, but was not charged in that investigation.

The Steelers dropped Rydze from their roster of doctors in June 2007.

In the decade prior to Rydze's tenure, many Steelers also admitted to using steroids to gain an advantage. Former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw admitted in 2008 that he used steroids during his playing career. Bradshaw said on Dan Patrick's radio show: “We did steroids to get away the aches and the speed of healing. My use of steroids from a doctor was to speed up injury, and thought nothing of it. It was to speed up the healing process, that was it. It wasn't to get bigger and stronger and faster.”

Former Saints coach Jim Haslett accused the '70s Steelers of being "the ones who kind of started" steroid use in the NFL.

Said Haslett: "It started, really, in Pittsburgh. They got an advantage on a lot of football teams. They were so much stronger (in the) '70s, late '70s, early '80s.

Former Vikings and Giants quarterback Fran Tarkenton corroborated Haslett's story in a June 2009 interview, saying: "We’re playing the Steelers in the Super Bowl in ’75 or ’76 … we’re on the field warming up, and I see these Steeler offensive linemen with their sleeves rolled up, and they've got these bulging muscles. Later, we found out it that … these guys were juiced … all of them."

"We talk now about (former baseball stars) Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds. But how about the Steelers of that era? Did that make a difference? Yeah, it made a difference. It increased their performance.”

VICTIM: The entire league

PUNISHED? No but ... it's more probable than not that this was cheating

PUNISHMENT: Predictably, the Steelers and Rydze denied that he ever gave steroids to any Steelers players because the team would never compromise the wellbeing of their players or the integrity of the game by using performance enhancing substances. More likely, with the Steelers long history of steroid cheating, having this doctor on staff made perfect sense for the team. Once his name was released in 2007 as a customer of the steroid company, however, the Steelers wisely decided to go in another direction.

The Steelers and Chargers were well out in front of their opponents on leveraging steroids to gain a competitive advantage. During this period, the Steelers also happened to win 4 Super Bowls. It is more probable than not that the Steelers teams of the 70s were so heavily juiced compared to the rest of the league that these Super Bowls are deeply tainted.
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Pittsburgh Steelers Arrest Records

Antwon Blake
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: March 15, 2015


Alcohol


ason Gildon
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: March 15, 2003


Description: Accused of refusing to leave club after being told they didn't meet the dress code.
Outcome: Diversion program, 60 hours of community service.
Marvel Smith
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: July 12, 2002


Drugs



Description: Accused of marijuana possession at a hotel room in Tempe, Ariz., after police were called about the smell.
Outcome: Charge dropped.
Plaxico Burress
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: May 11, 2002


Alcohol



Description: Accused of being drunk in public and causing disturbances in Virginia Beach.
Outcome: Deferred disposition. Charged dropped if he stays clean for a year.
Plaxico Burress
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: December 24, 2001


Alcohol



Description: Cited for carrying an open container of alcohol (beer) in the Cleveland warehouse district.
Outcome: Pleaded no contest, $50 fine, $100 court costs.



Description: Accused of being drunk in public in Oceanside, Calif.
Outcome: Resolution undetermined.
LeGarrette Blount
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: August 20, 2014


Drugs



Description: Was riding in passenger seat when police pulled over car driven by teammate Le'Veon Bell. Suspected of possessing bag with about 20 ounces of marijuana.
Outcome: Diversion program, 50 hours of community service in exchange for dismissal of charge.
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Le'Veon Bell
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: August 20, 2014


Drugs



Description: Pulled over and suspected of marijuana possession with teammate LeGarrette Blount in passenger seat.
Outcome: Diversion program, 15 months probation, suspended license for 60 days.
Chris Rainey
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: January 10, 2013


Domestic Violence



Description: Accused of slapping girlfriend in face in dispute over cell phone.
Outcome: Pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct, $500 in fines and costs. Released by team hours later.
Alameda Ta'amu
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: October 14, 2012


DUI



Description: Accused of resisting arrest, eluding police and drunk driving after hitting several parked cars
Outcome: Resolution undetermined.
Hines Ward
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: July 09, 2011


DUI



Description: Accused of drunk driving in Georgia after being pulled over about 2:30 a.m.
Outcome: Pleaded guilty to reckless driving in plea deal. One year probation, $2,000 fine.
Jeff Reed
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: October 18, 2009


Alcohol



Description: Cited for resisting arrest, public intoxication in confrontation with police outside a Pittsburgh bar with teammate Matt Spaeth.
Outcome: Diversion program, 40 hours community service, then cleared.
Matt Spaeth
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: October 18, 2009


Description: Cited for public urination outside a Pittsburgh bar. Teammate Jeff Reed was arrested as part of the same incident.
Outcome: Resolution undetermined.
Jeff Reed
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: February 14, 2009


Disorderly Conduct



Description: Police said he broke towel dispenser in convenience store after finding it out of towels, also used profane language at employee.
Outcome: Pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and criminal mischief, fined $543.50. Arrested again in October 2009.
Jonathan Dekker
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: January 24, 2009


Description: Accused of fleeing police and giving a false name after apparent public intoxication in Alexandria, Va.
Outcome: Acquitted by judge.
Santonio Holmes
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: October 23, 2008


Drugs



Description: Pulled over because police were looking for similar car, marijuana cigars found in his car by police.
Outcome: Dropped after prosecutors agreed the search warrant wasn't specific enough.
Cedrick Wilson
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: March 19, 2008


Domestic Violence



Description: Accused of punching ex-girlfriend in the face, disorderly conduct at restaurant.
Outcome: Diversion program, anger counseling. Released by team the next day.
James Harrison
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: March 08, 2008


Domestic Violence



Description: Accused of hitting his girlfriend during argument about whether to baptize his son, simple assault, mischief.
Outcome: Charges dropped. He also underwent anger counseling.
Najeh Davenport
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: October 04, 2007


Domestic Violence



Description: In Cleveland custody dispute, he allegedly slapped and choked mother of his son, age 5. Also charged with child endangerment.
Outcome: Acquitted.
Richard Seigler
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: May 10, 2007


Pimping



Description: Accused of persuading a woman to become a prostitute, living from earnings of prostitute in Las Vegas.
Outcome: Charges dropped in 2008. Released by team.
Deshea Townsend
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: March 04, 2007


Assault/Battery



Description: Accused of taking part in brawl in Pittsburgh bar.
Outcome: Charged dropped for lack of evidence.
Barrett Brooks
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: August 06, 2006


Description: Police said he recklessly drove his motorcycle, drove through stop signals and led them on a chase.
Outcome: Apologized, pleaded guilty, court costs
Santonio Holmes
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: June 19, 2006


Domestic Violence



Description: Mother of his children called 911 and said Holmes choked her and slammed her into a door in Ohio.
Outcome: Charge dropped after woman was reluctant to testify.
Santonio Holmes
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: May 27, 2006


Disorderly Conduct



Description: One of hundreds of partiers arrested and accused of disorderly conduct in Miami Beach over Memorial Day weekend.
Outcome: Fined $250 and charge dropped.
Trai Essex
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Date of Incident: February 18, 2006


Disorderly Conduct



Description: Accused of resisting an officer and disorderly conduct outside club in Miami.
Outcome: Charge dropped.


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Woman in Georgia alleges assault

MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. -- For the second time in a year, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is being accused of sexual misconduct, with police investigating him Saturday for an alleged assault at a nightclub in a Georgia college town.

Police in Milledgeville were examining the claim of a 20-year-old student, who told an officer that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her early Friday.

Tom Davis, the special agent in charge of the regional Georgia Bureau of Investigation in Milledgeville, told ESPN on Saturday that Milledgeville police and the GBI will be working the case throughout the weekend and into next week. Authorities had no plans to comment further until Monday at the earliest.

The GBI has not spoken with Roethlisberger or any of the men who were with him on the night in question, but are trying to arrange that, Davis said. When Davis does speak with them, he told ESPN he wants to conduct the interviews in person. It was his understanding that Roethlisberger and his group left the state on Friday.

Investigators are awaiting lab results, but Davis would not say if anything was taken from Roethlisberger. When the investigation is complete, Davis said the findings will be turned over to the Baldwin County district attorney.

The case comes as Roethlisberger faces a lawsuit filed last July by a woman who says he raped her in 2008 at a Lake Tahoe hotel and casino, an allegation he strongly denies. Roethlisberger, who was not in custody, has not been criminally charged in either case and has claimed counter-damages in the lawsuit.

Still, to hear it on the airwaves in Pittsburgh, this latest situation seems to have shaken fans of the star quarterback, a man who has never hidden the fact he enjoys the nightlife. He has been spotted gambling in Las Vegas and is sometimes seen in public with small groups of friends and bodyguards.

The latest accusation came early Friday in downtown Milledgeville, about 85 miles southeast of Atlanta and about 30 miles south of the lake home the player owns. Roethlisberger, who turned 28 on Tuesday, and two or three friends went to Buffington's bar earlier Thursday night to watch the University of Pittsburgh men's college basketball game, said Paul Kurcikevicus, a 24-year-old college student.

He said the group was friendly, at first joking that Roethlisberger was not the NFL player. Kurcikevicus said Roethlisberger bought shots for him and some other people in the bar. The shots were "O-Bombs," a mixture of energy drink and flavored rum.

The group later went to The Brick restaurant nearby, owner Frank Pendergrast said.

"He was very polite with everybody," Pendergrast told The Associated Press. "He was down here from about 11:30 until about 1:30 having a good time, talking to a lot of people. Looked like he was signing autographs and letting people take pictures. Other than that, it was really uneventful."

Roethlisberger was later seen at Capital City, a popular nightclub for students at Georgia College & State University in Milledgeville.

One patron at the bar on Friday night, 21-year-old college student Brandon Harris, said he saw Roethlisberger come in the night before with two or three big men who were keeping other club goers away. Harris said the group went into a curtained VIP area in the back of the club, and some women were let inside.

Amber Hanley, a 21-year-old college student, said she and a few friends were also in the VIP area with Roethlisberger. She said she asked the quarterback to take a photo with her friend, who was a fan, but he seemed disappointed that's all she wanted. Hanley said she rolled her eyes, and Roethlisberger called her an expletive and walked away. Later, Roethlisberger was aggressively hitting on another girl, Hanley said.

Deputy Police Chief Richard Malone said Friday that Roethlisberger had been with three other people who were mingling with another group that included the alleged victim. Malone said the woman and her party contacted a nearby police officer following the alleged assault.

"He's been identified as being at the scene and there are allegations naming him as the perpetrator," Malone said. The nature of the assault was not described, but Malone did say it was being termed a sexual assault, not a rape.

Roethlisberger and the alleged victim were interviewed and the woman was taken to a hospital, where she was treated and released, Malone said. The woman was not identified by police; ESPN and the AP do not generally identify possible victims of sexual abuse.

Police said Roethlisberger and his attorney were cooperating with investigators.

The player's agent, Ryan Tollner, said in a statement he was skeptical of the motive of the alleged victim in Milledgeville because of the previous Lake Tahoe allegations. Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett said the team was gathering information and had no comment.

As Pittsburgh's first-round draft pick out of Miami of Ohio in 2004, Roethlisberger led the Steelers to Super Bowl victories in 2006 and 2009. He has frequently donated time and money to charities, and his charitable foundation awards a police dog to a department near every Steelers road opponent.

However, with his championships and $102 million contract have come several off-the-field problems. In 2006, he defied his coach's orders and rode his motorcycle without a helmet -- and wound up with a concussion, broken jaw and other injuries after a wreck.

And while Roethlisberger has a reputation for patiently signing autographs and posing for pictures while out in public, he also is known for occasionally inelegant behavior in Pittsburgh. Early in his career, he was photographed wearing a T-shirt reading "Drink Like a Champion." Restaurant owners in Pittsburgh have complained he has tried to skip out on bills.

The public largely supported him when he was accused of sexual assault in Nevada. But radio shows in Pittsburgh have been flooded with calls since Friday's allegation -- few of them sympathetic, with many wondering if the new case indicates a troubling pattern of behavior.

Fan Julie Muckle of Cranberry Township, Pa., said Roethlisberger was hanging out with the wrong people.

"I'm 24 and if I want to go out to a local bar, I know where I can find him. I feel like he needs to hide himself a little more and be with a better group," Muckle said.

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Michael Vick isn’t the problem: Steelers fans need to talk about rape culture

live in western Pennsylvania, so my social media feeds exploded yesterday, with the news that the Pittsburgh Steelers had signed Michael Vick to a one-year contract as a backup quarterback.

The outrage, of course, comes from Michael Vick’s history running a violent dog-fighting ring out of his house. The tortures and deaths of countless pitbulls at Bad Newz Kennels still haunt many people; animals are often seen as the ultimate innocent victim, and Vick’s plea bargain, and subsequent repentant interviews feel at worst disingenuous, and at best like too little, too late.

I’ve heard people say that he’s only sorry he got caught. I’ve heard that he should be the one buried in the ground at that house. I’ve heard that he’s a thug.

In other words, I’ve heard a lot of racially-coded language that reminds me that black men are easily cast in the role of criminal, and have an almost-impossible time shaking it off.

And I understand what’s at the heart of these sentiments. Three years ago, I adopted a sweet boxer mutt from a shelter in Kansas, who came home with me malnourished, a mere 35 pounds, his ribcage showing through his skin, cuts and scars all over his head. I don’t know anything about his past, but I know he had a rough life, and I know how it feels to have taken him away from whatever hurt came before.

So I understand why the images of pitbull victims haunt us still, and I understand if people don’t feel comfortable watching Vick return to the spotlight.

What I don’t understand is why almost no one expresses that same discomfort over the guy first in line for Vick’s job.

Ben Roethlisberger, the Steelers first-string quarterback and all-around golden ticket, has been accused twice of sexually assaulting women: in 2008, and again in 2010. And while it’s true that Roethlisberger hasn’t faced criminal charges for either of these crimes, that doesn’t convince me at all that he’s not guilty.

At the very least, we know that his defense team used character assassination against his first accuser, who declined to press criminal charges for fear she’d lose her job. We also know that his second accuser was in her early twenties, a college student, and was so intoxicated at the time of the alleged assault she had to be dragged to the back room of the club.

We know she and her friends went to the first police officer they could find. And we know that the hospital she was taken to found bruising and bleeding in the genital area.

We know that his second victim, like his first, eventually asked that a criminal case against Roethlisberger not be pursued. We know how incredibly common this is among rape victims, and how unlikely a conviction would have been, had charges been pursued.

When Steelers fans talk about Ben Roethlisberger’s behavior, this is what I hear:

I’ve heard people say that Roethlisberger hasn’t been convicted of anything. I’ve heard that his alleged crimes are different because his victims ‘put themselves in that position.’ I’ve heard that the victims were probably only after his money.

In other words, I’ve heard a lot of gender-coded language that reminds me that female rape victims have the hardest time of anyone being taken seriously. I’ve heard a lot that reminds me how little we think of women. I’ve heard a lot that sounds like hypocrisy.


live in western Pennsylvania, so my social media feeds exploded yesterday, with the news that the Pittsburgh Steelers had signed Michael Vick to a one-year contract as a backup quarterback.

The outrage, of course, comes from Michael Vick’s history running a violent dog-fighting ring out of his house. The tortures and deaths of countless pitbulls at Bad Newz Kennels still haunt many people; animals are often seen as the ultimate innocent victim, and Vick’s plea bargain, and subsequent repentant interviews feel at worst disingenuous, and at best like too little, too late.

I’ve heard people say that he’s only sorry he got caught. I’ve heard that he should be the one buried in the ground at that house. I’ve heard that he’s a thug.

In other words, I’ve heard a lot of racially-coded language that reminds me that black men are easily cast in the role of criminal, and have an almost-impossible time shaking it off.

And I understand what’s at the heart of these sentiments. Three years ago, I adopted a sweet boxer mutt from a shelter in Kansas, who came home with me malnourished, a mere 35 pounds, his ribcage showing through his skin, cuts and scars all over his head. I don’t know anything about his past, but I know he had a rough life, and I know how it feels to have taken him away from whatever hurt came before.

So I understand why the images of pitbull victims haunt us still, and I understand if people don’t feel comfortable watching Vick return to the spotlight.

What I don’t understand is why almost no one expresses that same discomfort over the guy first in line for Vick’s job.

Ben Roethlisberger, the Steelers first-string quarterback and all-around golden ticket, has been accused twice of sexually assaulting women: in 2008, and again in 2010. And while it’s true that Roethlisberger hasn’t faced criminal charges for either of these crimes, that doesn’t convince me at all that he’s not guilty.

At the very least, we know that his defense team used character assassination against his first accuser, who declined to press criminal charges for fear she’d lose her job. We also know that his second accuser was in her early twenties, a college student, and was so intoxicated at the time of the alleged assault she had to be dragged to the back room of the club.

We know she and her friends went to the first police officer they could find. And we know that the hospital she was taken to found bruising and bleeding in the genital area.

We know that his second victim, like his first, eventually asked that a criminal case against Roethlisberger not be pursued. We know how incredibly common this is among rape victims, and how unlikely a conviction would have been, had charges been pursued.

When Steelers fans talk about Ben Roethlisberger’s behavior, this is what I hear:

I’ve heard people say that Roethlisberger hasn’t been convicted of anything. I’ve heard that his alleged crimes are different because his victims ‘put themselves in that position.’ I’ve heard that the victims were probably only after his money.

In other words, I’ve heard a lot of gender-coded language that reminds me that female rape victims have the hardest time of anyone being taken seriously. I’ve heard a lot that reminds me how little we think of women. I’ve heard a lot that sounds like hypocrisy.


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Oh my word. The years of watching his beloved Clowns lose with no end in sight has made Vambo finally lose his mind.

Holy smokes!!


Poor Vambo. Poor Vambo Indeed! frown


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Holy smokes is right!

Hey vambo, was all that meant to help make you feel better about the beatdown your clowns just received, or was it meant to make Steeler fans feel bad?

Well, I hope the former is working for you because the latter aint lol.

Here's how bad I feel LOL!







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Oh my word. The years of watching his beloved Steelers CHEAT with no end in sight has made Clown Hunter finally lose his mind.

Holy smokes!!


Poor Clown Hunter. Poor Clown Hunter Indeed! frown

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Holy smokes is right!


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Vambo... How many times have the Steelers beat your team this year?

Look my Milk Bone loving friend. The Steelers are not your problem. Its your corrupt front office.

The Steelers can only beat your team at the most three times a year...and..it is there job to try. Your front office beats your team before they even step on the field each week. Smh... Have you looked at your roster lately?? Back in the day I would laugh in your face. But now I feel sorry for the Clowns fans. Y'all don't deserve this. frown

And that my friend is exactly why I say Poor Clowns. Poor Clowns Indeed! frown


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Holy smokes is right!


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Loved that!!! Thanks for the memories vambo!
Too bad Stain coaches never show fire, passion and the "hate to lose" mentality!

Too bad Tomlin didn't punch him like Woody Hays did that Clemson player!!

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Former head coach Cowher: Steelers tried stealing signals, too
http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/5423839-74/cowher-patriots-game#axzz3rrZ5Euti


"“The only thing they got caught (was) doing it with a camera,”Cowher told the radio station. “We had people that always tried to steal signals. Stealing someone's signals was a part of the game, and everyone attempted to do that.”

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Vambo... How many times have the Steelers CHEATED this year?

Fixed it for you! thumbsup

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I am so tired of Steeler fans coming here and rubbing our noses in it. I have a good feeling about next season. The Steelers and Ben will be even older and our young guys are going to start showing the fruit of critical playing time this season. JFF will surpass Big Ben and our defense is only a player away from top 5. You heard it here first.


Soooo. In one post we have "Wait till next year" and " The Steelers are getting old"

frown The Clowns front office has brainwashed you good my friend. This is said literally every year by the Clowns fans.

I don't blame you... I blame your crooked front office. They knew damn well they had zero intentions of fielding a competitive team. But....they had intentions on separating you from your hard earned money. Quite frankly they trick you into paying for trash..

And look where your team is at now. In the basement of the Afc North ( AGAIN )


SMH. POOR CLOWNS POOR CLOWNS INDEED!! frown


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Now that we have established that I was right ( again ). Lets move forward. We have to cut the cancer out at the root. That means removing Haslem.

Now that is not an easy task. He is entrenched and rich due to the Clowns fans filling his pockets even though he provides a sub par product.

But with determination, patience, and a little bit of luck we will turn the Clowns into the Browns once again.

Now of course until that happens ...I will say Poor Clowns.. Poor Clowns Indeed! frown

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Here you go Clown, why don't you make fun of cancer some more. Go explain to her kids why you think it's funny.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/...er-mss-orig.cnn


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Originally Posted By: Clown Hunter
Now of course until that happens ...I will say Poor Clowns.(


Ah, I gotcha! So you're just one of those Good Time Charlie type of fan (?). When times are good, you will climb on board, but until then... Guess what - there'll be no room for your type. thumbsdown


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Here you go Clown, why don't you make fun of cancer some more. Go explain to her kids why you think it's funny.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/...er-mss-orig.cnn


Oh brother.

No one was making fun of cancer clown.

Consider this another time you are wrong.

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OLB James Harrison (2010: $25K for roughing the passer)
OLB James Harrison (2010: $75K for a hit on a defenseless player)
OLB James Harrison (2011: suspended 1 game for Notable incidents below the established criteria:



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Harrison...a Clown fan killer too!


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OLB James Harrison (2010: $25K for roughing the passer)
OLB James Harrison (2010: $75K for a hit on a defenseless player)
OLB James Harrison (2011: suspended 1 game for Notable incidents below the established criteria:




PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison has been charged with assaulting his girlfriend.

Rooney's rationale in abuse cases leads to criticism

Mr. Wilson became the second player in 11 days to be charged in a domestic dispute with a woman. On March 8, Pro Bowl linebacker James Harrison also was charged in an incident involving his girlfriend.

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Date Descending Team Position Name Incident Resolution

3/15/2015 Pittsburgh CB Antwon Blake Arrested for public drunkenness in Oceanside.

8/20/2014 Pittsburgh RB Le’Veon Bell Charged with DUI and marijuana possession following a traffic stop in Ross Township, a Pittsburgh suburb. Agreed to enter first-offender's program; 15 months' probation. Two game league suspension.

8/20/2014 Pittsburgh RB LeGarrette Blount Charged with marijuana possession after police pulled over Le'Veon Bell's Chevrolet Camaro in a Pittsburgh suburb. Charges dropped after he completed 50 hours of community service.

1/10/2013 Pittsburgh RB Chris Rainey Charged with misdemeanor simple battery after an altercation with his girlfriend in Gainesville, Fla.. Cut by team.

10/14/2012 Pittsburgh NT Alameda Ta’amu Arrested on charges of leading police on a chase while driving drunk and crashing into parked cars, injuring one. Suspended by team two games without pay. Sentenced to 18 months of probation after pleading guilty to reckless endangerment, resisting arrest and drunken driving. Also must spend four days in alternative custody and pay nearly $11,000 in damage. Prosecutors withdrew felony charges of aggravated assault with a vehicle.

7/9/2011 Pittsburgh WR Hines Ward Arrested outside Atlanta on suspicion of DUI. Pleaded guilty to lesser charge of reckless driving in plea deal. Sentenced to 12 months' probation and 80 hours of community service, $2,000 fine.

10/18/2009 Pittsburgh K_ Jeff Reed Arrested outside restaurant near Steelers' stadium, charged with resisting arrest, public intoxication after police say he raised fists while officers issued public urination citation to teammate Matt Spaeth. Charges of resisting arrest and simple assault dismissed, but ordered to 40 hours of community service.

10/18/2009 Pittsburgh TE Matt Spaeth Cited for public urination outside restaurant near Steelers' stadium after game. Teammate Jeff Reed arrested as part of incident. Guilty plea, paid $500.

2/14/2009 Pittsburgh K_ Jeff Reed Cited for criminal mischief and disorderly conduct after allegedly throwing tantrum in restroom of convenience store. He allegedly damaged towel dispenser after finding it empty. Pleaded guilty, $544 in fines.

1/24/2009 Pittsburgh TE Jonathan Dekker Arrested and charged with obstruction of justice an incident in Alexandria. Va. when he allegedly fled from police and then gave officers a false name. Acquitted

10/23/2008 Pittsburgh WR Santonio Holmes Pittsburgh police pulled him over, found marijuana cigars, a misdemeanor charge. Dropped. Prosecutors agreed search warrant wasn't specific enough.

3/19/2008 Pittsburgh WR Cedrick Wilson Arrested and charged with simple assault, harassment and disorderly conduct after allegedly hitting his former girlfriend in the face at bar. Team terminated his contract the next morning.

3/8/2008 Pittsburgh LB James Harrison Arrested on charges of simple assault and criminal mischief after police said he broke down a bedroom door at girlfriend's home after she locked herself in. Dropped after alleged victim decided not to pursue case and Harrison completed anger management counseling.

10/4/2007 Pittsburgh RB Najeh Davenport Charged with domestic violence, child endangerment and unlawful restraint after incident involving mother of his 5-year-old son, who suffered a swollen lip.

5/10/2007 Pittsburgh LB Richard Seigler Arrested on charges he ran a prostitution ring in Las Vegas, three felony counts. Cut by team same day. Case dropped in March 2008

3/4/2007 Pittsburgh CB Deshea Townsend Charged with simple assault after incident at club on Pittsburgh's south side Dropped

8/6/2006 Pittsburgh OT Barrett Brooks Arrested after fleeing from Pittsburgh police on a motorcycle and charged with fleeing and eluding, reckless driving, driving at an unsafe speed and other traffic violations. Police said Brooks was not legally intoxicated. Apologized, pleaded guilty, paid court costs

6/19/2006 Pittsburgh WR Santonio Holmes Holmes was arrested and charged by Columbus, Ohio, police with two misdemeanor counts of domestic violence and simple assault. Dropped

5/27/2006 Pittsburgh WR Santonio Holmes Holmes was among hundreds of people arrested for disorderly conduct as part of a police crackdown on revelers who annually converge on Miami Beach during the Memorial Day weekend. Dropped after paying $250

2/18/2006 Pittsburgh OL Trai Essex Arrested, charged with disorderly conduct at nightclub in Miami. Dropped

3/16/2003 Pittsburgh LB Jason Gildon Arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and defiant trespass after refusing to leave a Pittsburgh nightclub. Charges dropped after he completed community service.

7/12/2002 Pittsburgh OT Marvel Smith Arrested on marijuana possession charges in Tempe, Ariz. Dropped

5/11/2002 Pittsburgh WR Plaxico Burress Arrested on a charge of public intoxication in Virginia Beach, Va. One-year deferral

12/24/2001 Pittsburgh WR Plaxico Burress Cited for carrying an open bottle of Corona beer in Cleveland at 1:45 a.m. Christmas Eve, arrest warrant issued when he failed to appear. Fined

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Steelers foresee no issues with re-signing admitted woman batterer James Harrison

Linebacker James Harrison admitted to police in March 2008 he broke down a bedroom door, slapped his girlfriend in the face and snapped her cell phone in half during an argument the Steelers said at the time was over whether to baptize Harrison's son, according to the criminal complaint.

I see why you're so proud of him! thumbsdown

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Was this you Blutarsky?



Fan tries to bribe police after being arrested for assault at Steelers game


A football fan in Pittsburgh has been charged with aggravated assault, reckless endangerment and bribery after an incident that left one woman unconscious at the Steelers-Ravens game on Sunday night.

According to a police report obtained by the CBS affiliate KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh, 29-year-old Stephen Sapp was arrested after he kicked a steel barrier, causing the object to come off the ground and hit a woman in the head, knocking her unconscious. The woman had to be taken to a local hospital for treatment.

The entire incident happened after Sapp was asked by stadium security to leave the game.

Sapp, who was allegedly drunk, was taken to the ground by officers after he resisted arrest. After the incident, Sapp was also taken to the hospital where he attempted to make the situation go away by bribing several officers.

"Listen I know how this works. How much money will it take to make this go away and to let me go home today?" Sapp asked.

Sapp then told the officers that he could help them in other ways because he works for the IRS.

"Look, I am an IRS agent and I can help you in other ways if you let me go home and make this go away," Sapp said.

Sapp is being held on a $10,000 bond and has a preliminary hearing scheduled for Nov. 12

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foot...t-steelers-game

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Other Stories Relating To Steeler Arrests:

July 13, 2007: Former Steeler Arrested In Home Invasion Robbery May 11, 2007: Former Steeler Arrested For Alleged Prostitution Ring August 7, 2006: Steelers Player Apologizes About Arrest February 20, 2006: Steelers Lineman Has Run-In With Law February 15, 2006: Staley Loses Bling During Scuffle June 13, 2003: Charges Against Steelers' Gildon Dropped May 2, 2003: Former Pittsburgh Steeler Under Arrest March 20, 2003: Pittsburgh Steeler Scheduled To Appear In Court March 16, 2003: Steelers Linebacker Arrested Over Nightclub Dispute

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Well Blutarsky I can see you having your Thanksgiving dinner. Lets roll the footage.



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Other Stories Relating To Steeler Arrests:

July 13, 2007: Former Steeler Arrested In Home Invasion Robbery May 11, 2007: Former Steeler Arrested For Alleged Prostitution Ring August 7, 2006: Steelers Player Apologizes About Arrest February 20, 2006: Steelers Lineman Has Run-In With Law February 15, 2006: Staley Loses Bling During Scuffle June 13, 2003: Charges Against Steelers' Gildon Dropped May 2, 2003: Former Pittsburgh Steeler Under Arrest March 20, 2003: Pittsburgh Steeler Scheduled To Appear In Court March 16, 2003: Steelers Linebacker Arrested Over Nightclub Dispute


Boo Hoo.

Stain fans continue to post this tired old song and dance as if the umpteenth time makes it more compelling as the first.LOL

But if you really want to go there...the most notorious abuser of women in the history of the NFL was a Cleveland Clown.


An 18-year-old accused Brown of forcing her to have sex after giving her whisky, but a jury found him innocent of assault and battery in the 10-day trial in 1965. He was accused of throwing his girlfriend from a balcony in 1968, but when the 22-year-old woman refused to name Brown as her assailant, the charge of assault with intent to murder was dropped. He was fined $300 for resisting a deputy.


Brown was acquitted of assaulting a man after a traffic accident in 1969. He was fined $500 and spent a day in jail after beating up a golfing partner in 1978. He was charged with rape, sexual battery and assault in 1985, but the charges were dropped when the 33-year-old woman gave inconsistent testimony.


The next year, he was arrested for allegedly beating his fiancée after accusing her of flirting. He spent three hours in jail, but three days later the 21-year-old woman said she didn't want to prosecute.


In October 1999, Brown was convicted in Los Angeles of smashing the window of his 25-year-old wife Monique's car, but was acquitted of making terrorist threats against her. The judge sentenced him to three years' probation, stripped him of his driver's license for a year, fined him $1,700 to be paid to a battered woman's shelter and a domestic abuse fund, and ordered him to attend special counseling for domestic batterers.


When Brown refused counseling, he was given a six-month sentence. He was released from jail in Ventura County (California) in July 2002 after serving less than four months.





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