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Worst case scenario we do tag Hoyer and pay him $10 million for the year... does that REALLY have a negative impact? I mean, we've got tons of cap space this year and if we aren't looking to be terribly active in FA this year, we'll have plenty to spend. And if its only for a 1 year contract, paying him $10 mil this year wouldn't count against us in 2016.

Also for those more familiar with the salary cap system, aren't we required to spend a certain minimum each year now? Something like at least 80% of the max???

They certainly have the money. That being said, I think they should do whatever they can to get Suh. Defense is so close to being one of the best in the NFL that I believe Suh would bring it to that level and he brings that "fear" factor that the Browns need on defense and I think he will make other defensive players around him better,especially on the line and LB. Whether he would come here is another question...

thanks DD for the input. all good reasons to tag hoyer.
brian has already built the chemistry with the players. from everything i've read he is very well liked and respected on both sides of the ball. that has already been EARNED by him, so there's no learning curve for him like would be for a new FA. from day one we can keep the continuity going on O.
everybody preaches continuity on the OL DL FO and coaches but as soon as any QB screws up half of the masses want to go to the next one in line. we can't be switching QB's every 8 games (or clamoring to) like we've done since 99.
brian already has the chemistry built and he is as good as any body we can bring in at this point. we have the money. he has the players support. if you just give him a legit offer and not low ball him, we may not even need the tag.

do what's right jimmy BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN

I have seen this posted on here several times about tagging Hoyer. Maybe someone can enlighten me....How can we tag or retain BH. He is not under contract, I don't see a way we can keep him if he doesn't want to be here. Anyone?

Edit: Maybe I answered my own question. If his contract does not expire until March...something, then I guess we could tag him before then?

under contract until march i think.

Ok, thanks. I just thought of that.

Randall Cobb seeks deal worth $9 million annually

Though not as celebrated as Dez Bryant or Demaryius Thomas, Randall Cobb is one of the top wide receivers set to hit the market once free agency begins in early March. The Packers' wideout caught 91 passes for 1,287 yards and 12 touchdowns last season and doesn't turn 25 until August. According to ESPN's Rob Demovsky, Cobb and his agent are seeking a deal that would pay him around $9 million per year.

What complicates things for Cobb is that he's almost exclusively an inside receiver. According to Pro Football Focus, nearly 90 percent of his offensive snaps since the start of 2012 came from the slot. Receivers like that generally don't earn nearly eight figures. Still, with the leverage afforded by the open market, Cobb might get his wish, whether it's with the Packers or another team.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/2/16/80...-mathis-broncos

Nice post. I agree w/most of what you said about Hoyer.

Skrine? I wasn't trying to say he would get top 10 money. It was more about me refuting what another poster said when he said he would only pay Skrine like he was a 3rd CB on the team.

With the ability to roll over extra cap room to the next year, paying a player more than you know he is worth is especially foolish.

If Hoyer is willing to take a deal similar to the other QBs on the market I would bring him back, but not because I think he is good, but because all the other guys stink too.

I don't think Hoyer is willing to take that deal.

No thanks to Cobb. We got our Cobb in Hawkins last FA. I really hope we don't go after a FA WR and pull in a couple in the draft.

My bad man, I should have separated those posts. My comments about Skrine were just my own general opinion, not really a response to anyone else's point of view. Some crazy things have been posted on these boards, but I don't think anyone has advocated paying BUster Top 10 $$$ ??

Suh is obviously a great player, but I think he's too much of a character risk. The guy is flat out a dirty player. That I don't think fits in with the culture of the team. And for arguments sake it did or could, he finally reached a point at the end of last season where he's now looking at suspensions for his nonsense. Given our luck, if he came here it would be about Week 3 or 4 when he decides to stomp on someone's leg (again), but this time injuring someone like blowing out their ACL. Goodell in trying to build/create credibility decides to suspend Suh for as long as the player he intentionally hurt is out. And how do you argue a punishment like that?

Good point Devil,,,

j/c:

Jabaal Sheard meeting with Browns, likely to test open market

Outside linebacker Jabaal Sheard is open to re-signing with the Cleveland Browns but will garner interest from multiple teams on the free-agent market, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said.

Browns are scheduled to meet with Sheard’s camp this week at the NFL combine. Sheard, a second-round draft pick in 2011, has started 50 games for the Browns and recorded 23 sacks.

“I believe Jabaal is going to be a coveted player,” Rosenhaus said. “He’s young, he can play and he’s versatile. He’s played in several different schemes in Cleveland.”

Sheard was a 4-3 end coming out of Pitt, and could be drawn to returning to that scheme, but also likes Mike Pettine’s 3-4 system in Cleveland.

Depending on how the market develops, the Browns could face a difficult decision with Sheard, whose sack totals have dropped every year. But he's a dependable player who works hard against the run and plays through injury.

The Browns finished 27th in the NFL in 2014 with 31 sacks. Paul Kruger was the only Browns outside linebacker who finished with more than two sacks.

“What’s attractive about the Browns is they are the team that drafted him and he has relationships with coaches on the staff,” Rosenhaus said. “Of course we will be happy to have discussions with him. Right now, it’s a little too early to forecast what will happen.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11833/jabaal-sheard-meeting-with-cleveland-browns-likely-to-test-market?src=mobile&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FAw9tSOjSei%22%7D

When Mingo, with a shoulder injury, is getting reps over you... that tells me the scheme or something isn't right for Jaball.

I truthfully expected so much more from Sheard last year. I really did. I think a team running a 4-3 and looking for an end will likely be interested in Jaball, more interested than our staff will be. But, I hope the Browns look at at least attempt to resign him. He's a great rotational person and someone you want in there on 3rd and short.

Any chance for us nabbing Sam Bradford?

Sheard has hit the ceiling as far his ability to make a difference on the field.
He had a really good 1st 2 years in the league. But he never got past doing nothing more than a bull rush move.
He's not very explosive.
His numbers don't lie.
He's so so containing the edge on run plays.
Great locker room guy. class act.
Just never lived up to the hype.

Sorry Devil if you misunderstood me. I wasn't dissing you. I thought your post was really good. I was just clarifying my position. Keep posting. We need more logical guys like you.

Report: Browns showing interest in Josh McCown

The Browns have vowed to look high, low and everywhere in between for quarterback options this offseason and Josh McCown is looking for a job after being released by the Buccaneers.

To little surprise, it looks like those two paths will cross. Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that the Browns have expressed interest in McCown’s services. They have not yet set up a visit with the veteran quarterback, but could do so soon.

McCown worked with new Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo in 2007 when DeFilippo was the Raiders’ quarterbacks coach. McCown started seven games for Oakland that year, throwing nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions, and Cabot reports that the two men enjoyed working together that season.

McCown has visited the Bills and is expected to meet with at least one team in Indianapolis during the combine before making other visits as he weighs his options around the league. As the only quarterback currently on the open market who could be a starter in 2015, McCown should have several such options available to him.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/18/report-browns-show-interest-in-josh-mccown/

+1

this is just indicative of what a crappy FA market we have for QB's

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/02/17/the-mmqb-podcast-with-andy-benoit-afc-north-offseason/

Not sue where to stick this - if you have an hour its not a bad listen. Browns section starts at 14.40. Not sure what Andy Benoit's history is with regards to Browns reporting, but this seems like decent reporting.

It annoys me that they start off so negatively on the Browns and Haslam, but they don't say too much that isn't true so I get it. As for the team needs/summary I thought they were pretty on the Mark.

I think we're in a better place than they give us credit for with RB. WR summary is pretty fair - the guys we have signed right now are 3 smaller, quicker slot type guys and we need to get a WR or two (aassuming we resign Austin). OL pretty solid, a little bit of love for Schwartz at RT who has improved without being dominant. Skipped over the DL and LB core - but good analysis on where we are with the secondary, the issues with signing Skrine and Gipson who will probably be looking for more $$$ than the Browns may want to pay them.

Gipson is an RFA. Hes not going anywhere.

My top target would be Justin Houston. Assuming KC doesnt franchise him. Id throw boatloads of money at him..

Then id got after Jeremy Maclin. And maybe also Cecil Shorts. Those two plus Hawkins would be a solid WR Corps.

Then id go BPA in the draft.

or this could have something to do with the hoyer negotiation? or to start the camp fodder?

j/c..

Not sure what to make of this......


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please god, no.

not just the FA Market, it's also a horrible draft for QB's.. there just doesn't appear to be an answer out there anywhere.

I dont understand why a young QB that has shown potential is such a bad idea.

Is he perfect? No.

Do I think he can come in, run an offense similar to what Hoyer had weeks 1-10? Yes..

If youre bringing him in ti be THE GUY, that's probably not the best idea.. but to compete with Johnny (if hes back) and a FA Vet? Sure.

Trade for Mike Glennon? Absolutely.

I'll send them a 4th and or 5th round draft pick for the kid.

He's young (but experienced), is tall and has a big frame, and the kid has a VERY BIG arm.

Bring him in to compete with Manziel and a 3rd or 4th round drafted QB? What's the harm in that? Or trade for Glennon, sign someone like Jake Locker to a short deal, let Glennon and Locker compete and then groom a 2nd round rookie QB or something? (while trading Johnny).

We have SOME options.

I think we could do worse than Glennon.

I say go for it.

i like your thinking...
bring in McCown, glennon, locker,sign hoyer and along with manziel we can have a great QB competion this year. it wouldn't hurt to draft one also.
surely to god we can find a QB by exhausting all possibilities.

i really am serious about this.

Bring in six QB's to camp? Ha ha ha. Such an extreme idea it's crazy enough to work.

Seriously I would honestly think between trading for Glennon, signing either Mark Sanchez or Jake Locker (preferable Locker cause he's young, has a big arm and is really mobile) and then drafting someone like Brett Hundley or Bryce Petty in the 2nd round, we could find SOMEONE to be productive at quarterback....

I'm 110% off the Manziel bandwagon so I'm kind of hoping he get's traded somewhere for a 6th or 7th round draft pick. I don't see this team ever winning with him under center.

Are we hiring Jon Gruden?

nobody is more anti manziel than i am, but we must give him a chance to prove himself. i mean we never give anyone a real chance to succeed in this org.
manziel was considered by many to be a project anyway and projects take time to develope. he has so much to offer to the game if he can only get the time it takes to learn the skills needed at this level.
i can't believe i just said that.

That may be fine to give JM a chance to prove himself but in the meantime let's also bring in a QB that at least looks like an NFL QB. By that I mean physically, a guy who has the height,size and arm. Also a guy that has no baggage. We might get lucky for once.