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think it was Mitchell Schwartz. we both thought there were bigger needs and could live with a average RT being the weak link?

poor great grand daughter lives in boston. had enough. went to florida just in time for that 32 degree heat wave!!!! lmao.

"We sit together at away games, not home games,'' Haslam said. "Ray's a big boy. And if you've ever been with these GMs, they're texting people all the time and it may be somebody watching a game at a different stadium. So I think it's enough said on that."

Asked if Farmer knew he was breaking a rule with in-game texting, Haslam said, "You'll have to ask Ray that. I don't know that."

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/02/jimmy_haslam_on_ray_farmers_te.html

had it backward lol. hey maybe haslam was making farmer sit in with the monday film review and farmer was just expressing haslams concerns in front of the whole coaching staff?

Yet you are posting innuendo about Shanny as fact. You can't have it both ways.

Well....actually, on this board you can. As long as you side w/the majority, that is.

Come on, Super..........haven't you been following along? Farmer and Haslam are completely innocent.

It's LaCanafora and Shanny who are to blame for EVERYTHING!

I liked Shanny because of his coaching ability. Other than that, I have no interest in the guy. Sheesh! This love affair stuff is maddening.

tab, it is ALL speculation w/a few facts thrown in. It's just about how one perceives things.

Look, I am playing fair. It's not all black and white. I praise Pettine. He is part of this regime. I just defended Farmer and said he earned another chance for manning-up. It's not me that is drawing a line in the sand and saying this side is all good and this side is all evil.

tab---------there is only one real truth here. Farmer admitted that he improperly sent texts to the coaches during games.

Blew the whistle? How do you know that?

Look, I have been very fair in judging this regime. I even defended Farmer on this very thread. I liked Shanny because he could coach. I am not "in love" w/him.

I just look at it like this----------if I were the OC and the GM was sending me texts during games about the playcalling, I would be pissed, too. I would also not like having the GM and team president breaking down film w/the coaching staff. I would not like the FO making personnel decisions for the coaching staff.

I think Shanny had enough and wanted out. I don't blame him.

Let's hope not, because if that is true [and I agree w/you that it is a possibility] it means that things are truly terrible in Berea and this team is has dark days ahead.

Let's hope that they learned their lesson and stop interfering w/the coaching staff. No coach would want to coach under such circumstances. Shanny was just lucky enough that he knew he could get another job right away. Not all coaches are that fortunate.

MKC is the biggest drama queen in the city of Cleveland. She's always writing stories about the latest load of crap that no legitimate Browns fan even cares to read. She's also very untrustworthy towards the team. One minute she is writing a story praising someone in the organization and then the next day for no great reason she writes a story bashing the heck out of the same person. Not cool.

I don't know about that Vers. I mean if you hired guys that never had any experience in their respective roles, that felt they were indebted to you, that felt this was their only opportunity at their respective positions, you might be able to get away with things like that a lot more easily.

But then who would do that?

The Farmer texting thread is locked so I'll post it here...

What's the word on the punishment? I thought I read or heard that the discipline would be handed down soon, but I haven't heard a peep.

There is a report out there that says that Shanny will be suspended for 8 games and that LaCanafora will lose his NFL media credentials because it was really all their fault.

so Pat McManamon and Tony Grossi get off scot free?

It appears the rumor is true: you DO have a sense of humor. Oh, and no need to produce/link the report...

Something tells me it is a fairly low level violation. I think a fine is about all that will come of it. I don't think the texts were used for some sort of competitive gain, thus I don't see how losing a pick should come in to play.

JMO

When are we going to find out which draft pick this clown cost us?

He's not going to cost us one. He and the team will be fined. End of story.

Is this documented? Thanks...

It is not documented, but Farmer has no prior history of cheating (that we know of) and similar violations didn't carry any substantial penalty.

(I can't remember which team it was, but someone was in trouble for something similar recently and they only got fined.)

And thankfully, we all know how consistent the NFL is when applying punishment.

Which has a lot to do with why the speculation abounds that a draft pick may be added to the penalty. Let's face it, before the new policy that the NFL on domestic violence, in theory the suspension was two games. I'm sure that AP and Rice understand that's not the case.

The NFL hasn't looked good in the press because of their inconsistency. Questions have certainly been at the forefront on expecting management to face just as much scrutiny as the players.

I believe the reaction the NFL has about what is called Textgate may be bigger than the story of Textgate itself.

Which is why I don't believe anyone has any idea what the punishment might be.

Yeah, it's not like he wandered onto the field during play and altered an opponent's kick return. Or texted one of our coaches to do it for him.

Maybe he was texting down video of the other teams practices that we illegally taped...

I have never had an issue with Text Gate in terms of it being a terrible violation of league rules. It seems rather paltry to me.

My issue is that it screams of dysfunction w/in the FO. No coach wants his superiors questioning his play calls during the game. That is beyond insane. Some coaches may put up w/it, but that is only because they can't get a better opportunity.

All I know is that I hope it stops! A coach cannot be as effective as he normally could be when he has to worry about being questioned DURING THE GAME!

Not trying to take any blame or guilt away from Farmer but if coaches are not allowed to use their cellphones on the sidelines then why do any of the coaches carry them during the game?

Did you read what I wrote?

I am NOT worried about the legality of the issue. It's not a big deal.

What is a big deal is that it is almost impossible to call plays when some idiot upstairs is questioning your play calling.

Especially when you have to flip through two different playbooks.

You are acting immature again.

I am not sure what you are talking about. We aren't allowed to joke on here? Is that a new rule?

Apparently Shanahan isn't like me?

If you don't like someone texting you plays, shut your phone off. Leave your phone in the locker room. Heck, do like I do - leave it at home. Or simply, ignore it. If you're the o.c. for an nfl team and you have your phone on your belt during a game.......uh, hello?

But, if you do have your phone on the sidelines, and you get a text about play calling - simply reply "I'm busy doing the job you hired me to do. We'll talk on Monday."

Yep, it's all Shanny's fault.

I thought you like Shanahan? I bet you Atlanta's offense does better than our offense next year.