DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns Will Reportedly Attempt To Trade For Rams QB Sam Bradford

So when you say you would give up one of our first rounds picks, what you're really saying is that you wouldn't give up one of our first round picks?

simple question. does he elevate the play of others around him. offhand i would say no for the reason of you keep on saying the bad team around him.

You, SuperBrown....never.

j/c:

A few things:

--Can Bradford refuse a trade? The original article made a comment about him rather being released than being traded to Cleveland.

--I would NEVER give up a first round choice for Bradford in a million years. His injury history mandates that, but he hasn't been all that good when healthy.

--He never has elevated the play of those around him.

--His completion percentage is amazingly low in how it relates to his yards per attempt. Less than 60% and less than 7 YPA? That is horrible.

For comparison sake, let's look at:

Romo: 69.9% and 8.52 YPA
Rodgers: 65.6% and 8.43 YPA
Ben: 67.1% and 8.15 YPA

How about this. Last year, 25 QBs had a completion percentage over 60% and 24 had a YPA over 7.

The guy checks down a lot. He doesn't stretch the field, yet he is not a high percentage passer.

I watched him play in St. Louis. I was underwhelmed.

He kinda reminds me of Matt Ryan. Has all the tools, but there is something missing. I think his ceiling is Alex Smith........who is a pretty good player and we could have had for just money, but we didn't want him because we wanted to give Weeden another year.

Then again, Smith completed over 65% of his passes and is rarely intercepted.

Bradford can't refuse a trade, but he can tell the team that he is going to be traded to that he doesn't want to sign long term and/or won't renegotiate his current high cap number. No [smart] team would trade a high pick for a player in that situation.

Okay.......that makes sense.

Thanks.

I can't argue that. All we need to do is find a healthy Sam Bradford.

Well I'm sure if we trade for him we will find out if he passes the physical.

Bradford's problem isn't getting healthy, it's staying healthy.

All it takes is 1 good hit and even the healthiest player can be out of the game.

Or in Bradford's case, a strong gust of wind.

No team has contacted Rams regarding Sam Bradford

Despite recent reports of interest from the Buffalo Bills or Cleveland Browns, a Sam Bradford trade remains highly unlikely.

As of Tuesday, no team has contacted the St. Louis Rams about trading for their enigmatic quarterback, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, via sources informed of situation.

Because Bradford has missed the majority of the past two seasons and will have to compete to keep his starting job, the Rams have pressured him to accept a reduction in his $13 million salary that counts $16.6 million against the salary cap in the contract's final year.

After balking at that request, Bradford's agent was allowed to contact other teams to gauge the quarterback's value. To this point, that has not sparked movement.

While a trade is theoretically possible, Bradford's perceived value is diminished by an outsized salary no longer befitting an underperforming player coming off a twice-torn ACL.

Per Rapoport, it would take an extraordinarily desperate team to satisfy the Rams' demand for compensation (second-round draft pick?) while also taking on Bradford's bloated contract on a one-year rental.

While he's certainly a more attractive option than EJ Manuel or Johnny Manziel, Bradford has never lived up to the regard in which he's held by NFL scouts. He has too often been skittish in the pocket and scattershot with his accuracy, stifling the offense.

Bradford's agent can't be blamed for seeking a team willing to shell out the full salary, but the Rams believe the best-case scenario for both sides is a pay cut to finally rebuild his value as St. Louis' franchise quarterback.

Are the Rams underestimating the level of Bills' desperation in a bleak quarterback market? That's what Bradford's camp is selling.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...ng-sam-bradford

Sounds like we need an agent strand more than anything. I realize they are doing their jobs, but sometimes it gets frustrating. Not sure he can stay healthy enough to commit to him.

If Bradford wanted to come here and stay, I would give up our pick 19. I doubt he would.

Why are we still talking about this. Jeff Fisher is saying they are counting on Bradford next season, reports say (read Pblacks posts a few up from here) that he's not being shopped around either.

This smells of media made up stuff to stir up conversation.

I'd be shocked if we did a deal where we pay him what his contract calls for and give up more than one pick (and not a first) for him. For a guy that can't seem to stay healthy, that's wasted.

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There was another media storm today about the Bills seriously making offers to the Lambs for Bradford.
In the end, Bradford isn't likely going anywhere.

And it was debunked minutes later. It seems like the Rams are stirring the pot.

Bradford would be intriguing if he wasn't so fragile

tab, I don't think he stinks. I simply provided some evidence on the guy. Not everyone watches as many games as you and others do. Some only watch the Browns. When they see all the glowing praise, they might be misled by terms like "elite."

I think he could be a very good qb, but he hasn't proven it yet. The injury history is a major concern. His completion percentage vs his YPA is concerning. I always look at both stats when evaluating a qb. Too many people just look at completion percentage. Do you remember when people said Colt was the most accurate qb coming out of college in a long, long time? Yds. per attempt in relation to completion percentage paints a better picture.

Besides that, I have stated from the beginning that I didn't really believe this was happening. Look at the article that immediately follows your post to me. It is very close to what I have been trying to say all along.

IMO Bradford is damaged goods. Just move on... I'd rather see Manziel flail then pay 13 mil to See Bradford struggle half a season and then see Manziel flail.

Lmao! That was greatness

It doesn't take much to excite you does it?...

Well, at least if we get Bradford we'll usually have the best QB on IR in the league.

I still remember watching the preseason game this past year where Bradford got hurt.

Armonty Bryant came off the edge,a nd wrapped his arms around Bradford. Bradford got rid of the ball, and so Bryant pulled him down about maybe 8-12 inches, and let him go. Bradford crumpled with a torn ACL.

It was unreal, because he was really barely touched. '

Here is the play:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014082303/2014/PRE3/rams@browns#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000383016&tab=recap (Click on the link titled "Bradford injures knee on first series".

The more I consider this, the more I would have to pass. If I wanted a decent, but injury prone QB, I'd take Jake Locker, and not pay anything for him in the way of draft picks.

When was that? Care to elaborate? In his "career season" (his 3rd ! as a starter) Bradford completed 59.5% of his passes and had a whopping 6.7yds/PA...and that's his career season matching Weeden's career AVG, lol

Add in his injury history and the cost of 12mil and only an idiot, who would draft a HS shortstop to play QB and sends text messages to his coaches in-game would even CONSIDER such an idiotic trade....oh wait, we're the team led by idiots, so I guess it's possible.

The real scandal this offseason is that Farmer still is the Browns GM, and I think that's only the case because Jimmy is trying to repair his image. On "merit" he should be on the moon by now

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Luck has made the playoffs every year..

How is he be in "wasted"?

this guy has been to the playoffs every year, and progressed every year.

wild card round, then divisional round, then the afc championship game.

your and my definition of wasted is clearly different.

I believe eo was referencing Bradford, not Luck...

I probably misspoke when I said "good." If you read the rest of my posts about Bradford in this thread you can get a better view of what I think of him.



Agreed.

It especially doesn't help to be hit as a QB when you are brittle like Bradford and RGIII.

Luckily, Luck is built like a tank.

I can't believe anyone would argue that Bradford and RGIII are not injury prone/brittle.

The topic at hand is Bradford. I also mentioned Luck.

just clicking.

I'd take Sam Bradford right now as long as the price wasn't too high (couple second-rounders sounds about right).