He was good, not sure what the deal with him in recent time has been though. Wasn't it his bad play being a big factor where they shifted Clay Mathews around to the inside at times?
I'd say, no thanks. Even being a Thee Ohio State homer, I'd feel better going into the season with Dansby and then Kirksey/Roberston factoring in we get Craig back as he's a restricted FA.
It was a shot at all the previous Buckeyes who people have wanted. Not sure how many California guys I have advocated for, although it's a big state so I am sure I have wanted more than a few by accident.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
In addition to taking a look at ex-Buccaneers quarterback Josh McCown, the Browns may also have some interest in a current Bucs passer.
According to ESPN.com’s Jeremy Fowler, who cited two unnamed NFL sources, the Browns have “sniffed around” Buccaneers quarterback Mike Glennon. Fowler also had reported that McCown would be visiting Cleveland this week.
The 25-year-old Glennon completed 117-of-203 passes for 1,417 yards with 10 touchdowns and six interceptions in 2014. He is under contract for two more seasons.
The Buccaneers are widely expected to take a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, and this would seemingly relegate Glennon to a backup role. However, given his starting experience and his base salaries of less than $700,000 in the next two seasons, the Buccaneers could easily elect to keep Glennon as a skilled, low-cost reserve.
As free agency approaches, the Browns lack a clear-cut starting quarterback, with Johnny Manziel away from the club addressing personal issues and Brian Hoyer slated to be an unrestricted free agent. Any Browns interest in Glennon would be logical, but it would come at a cost, likely at least one draft pick.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
By Mary Kay Cabot, Northeast Ohio Media Group on February 25, 2015 at 4:54 PM, updated February 25, 2015 at 5:52 PM
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Quarterback Josh McCown wrapped up his visit with the Browns Wednesday without a contract, but they're still in the running to sign him, a source told Northeast Ohio Media Group.
McCown, who also visited the Bears, Bills and Jets, will consider other teams as well, the source said. The Bills are also still believed to be under consideration.
He'll take a few days to talk things over with his family and could make his decision by the end of the week.
If McCown signs with the Browns, it will likely spell the end of Brian Hoyer in Cleveland. In addition to an opportunity to compete for the starting job, McCown, 35, will serve as a mentor for Johnny Manziel, Connor Shaw and any young quarterback the Browns decide to bring in. Hoyer still wants an opportunity to start, whereas McCown has said he's willing to take a backup role.
The Browns haven't shown any sense of urgency in re-signing Hoyer, and didn't meet with his agent at the NFL combine. Hoyer also hoped to meet with Browns general manager Ray Farmer before free agency begins March 10, but that hasn't happened.
McCown, on the other hand, spent Tuesday and Wednesday visiting with the Browns and enjoyed the meetings.
In 2007, he was coached by current Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo, who was then Raiders quarterbacks coach. McCown went 2-5 as a starter that year, with nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions. But the two enjoyed working together and would look forward to the opportunity to do so again, a source said.
McCown would be able to help DeFilippo implement the new scheme and also serve as almost another coach on the field and in meeting rooms. Manziel will be learning a new offense, and McCown would be able to help him with the nuances of it.
A third-round pick of the Cardinals in 2002 out of Sam Houston State, McCown is the older brother of former Browns quarterback Luke McCown, a fourth-round pick in 2004 who started four games for the Browns before being traded to Tampa Bay on draft day in 2005.
The Bucs, who own the No. 1 overall pick and might draft Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston, released McCown after a disappointing season in which he went 1-10 and threw 11 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. McCown, who was replaced during the season by Mike Glennon, but then reclaimed the starting job, earned a 70.5 rating, second-worst in the NFL to Jacksonville rookie Blake Bortles.
The sub-par season followed a stellar year with the Bears that earned McCown his two-year, $10 million free agent contract with the Bucs. In 2013, McCown threw 13 touchdowns and only one interception en route to a 3-2 mark for the Bears. He finished with a 109.0 rating. Overall, McCown has a home record of 17-32 in his 12 seasons with six teams.
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P.S. How come I'm thinkin' we're gonna end up with this guy?
I'm not quite sure why signing him would have been a crisis. Anybody we sign is not the Answer just a Mentor who possibly give us some quality starts with Veteran Leadership.
If signed the question would have to be is he better than Hoyer. Who did turn out to be not as accurate as one would want. Which did include his winning spell.
Would Josh be better? Also if signed a big part of him being a positive he wants to start but has no problem mentoring the youth if they start.
I wasn't pimping for him to come here but my only question was going to be is he an upgrade on Hoyer or downgrade?
Now I heard from Gruden on Mike n Mike they all strongly expect Cutler to be released - he has some Bonus or something hitting in March that should have him released.
Jmho
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
He is a guy who fits a run heavy scheme that we will run.
It seems like we are looking at everyone, which is a good thing. CBS says that we have "sniffed around" regarding Mike Glennon's availability.
I think that the Browns are going to kick the tires on everyone who is available, now as a street free agent, those available as UFA, and those who could be traded for. I think that is a good idea. Plus, nothing says that we can't sign a veteran now, trade for another guy, and bring in Manziel to start as the #3 guy.
CBS reports:
February 19, 2015 10:48 am GM Ray Farmer: Browns could make trade for QB during the draft by Igor Mello | CBSSports.com With the Browns destined to find a starting quarterback, general manager Ray Farmer told reporters on Thursday that he's done a cost-benefit analysis on trading up for a quarterback, reports the Plain Dealer. The Browns have the No. 12 overall pick in this year's draft.
"Coach (Mike) Pettine has articulated that he wants a starter, so we have to find him a starter," Farmer said.
Farmer was noncommittal when asked whether he believed Johnny Manziel could be the No. 1 come next season. Farmer has spoken to Manziel twice by phone since Manziel checked into rehab.
Farmer wouldn't reveal if he has met with Brian Hoyer's representatives, as well. Hoyer beat out Manziel as the starter last season, but lost his job late in the year. He is expected to become free agent in March.
"Just because a player didn't succeed in one place doesn't mean he won't succeed in another," Farmer said, when asked of the free agency pool.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Of the free agents currently available I would make a run at Mallet. I think that he would be hard to get to sign here. One because of our receiving corp and two because I think that he would prefer to stay with the Texans price being equal.
The rest are never was's that are also probably never will be's. But out of those I would take a flyer on Jake Locker. He is young enough without enough tape to guarantee that he is a never will be. Perhaps we get lucky and he develops for us (like that will ever happen for us).
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
I know the name, just don't know much about him.....Kendall Langford just got released by STL.
They have him listed as a DE in STL 4-3D but reports say he is just over 310 @ 6'6. Sounds like a candidate for a DE in our 3-4. Maybe a starter, maybe depth?
Anyone from St. Louis know more about him? I think Bugs is from there?
At least from a height/weight perspective, he seems like a DE mold Ray Horton would have liked in his defense. Tall, long-bodied and not a heavy gap-plugger DE in some 34 Defenses- but more athletic, tougher to control in the pass rush.
It seems odd he was listed as a 43DE in STL. I would have thought at first glance he would have been a DT. If I'm wrong, my bad.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
This about sums up Langford in St. Louis: "Langford was set to make $6 million, far too steep for the Rams after rookie sensation Aaron Donald took Langford's starting job last season. Langford has experience in both 4-3 and 3-4 schemes. He shouldn't hurt for suitors, but a starting job isn't a guarantee."
He is a versatile blue collar nothing outstanding. He'd make a good rotational 3-4 DE. He will look for a starting role. I can see why the Rams didn't want to pay $6 million. He is also 29. I think he has talent, but I think Browns are better off going younger. Browns have starters they don't need to tie up cap for a backup DL.
The Browns are reportedly interested in McCown and Glennon. I hope those reports are false, because if it is true, it is just further proof that they don't have a clue about evaluating QBs.
You know it's bad when Josh McCown's got you by the balls.
Quote:
As of late Thursday night, the Browns were among at least a couple of teams talking to the camp of free-agent quarterback Josh McCown about signing a contract, a source familiar with the situation confirmed for the Beacon Journal.
The source spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation.
McCown visited the Browns on Tuesday and Wednesday. He has also met with the Buffalo Bills, Chicago Bears and New York Jets.
Contract negotiations between McCown's agent and the Bills took place Thursday, according to several reports that surfaced in the morning.
He could serve as a mentor while backing up a younger quarterback or start if needed. He has said he’s open to a backup role.
McCown, 35, expects to make a decision by the end of this week and no later than early next week, CBS Sports reported Wednesday.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers released McCown on Feb. 11 after he threw 11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions en route to a 1-10 record as a starter last season. He is free to sign with a team at anytime.
If the Browns acquire McCown, they probably wouldn’t re-sign veteran quarterback Brian Hoyer, who went 7-6 as a starter last season before being benched in December. Hoyer is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent March 10.
Browns General Manager Ray Farmer has yet to meet with Hoyer, who’s 10-6 as a starter for Cleveland, this offseason. On Feb. 7, Hoyer said Farmer sent him a text message about meeting, but it hasn’t happened yet. Hoyer, 29, said he has met with offensive coordinator John DeFilippo and talked to coach Mike Pettine a few times. He wants to be assured he’ll have a chance to compete for a starting job.
Farmer did not meet with Hoyer’s agent, Joe Linta, at the NFL Scouting Combine, according to ESPN.com. Linta expects Farmer to meet with Hoyer before the start of free agency.
“I know Ray and Brian want to get together,” Linta told ESPN.com on Wednesday. “Ray is very busy. I’m sure Ray will find the time between now and the start of free agency. Once those two get together, we can move forward. Brian definitely knows how the coaching staff feels.” The highest-ranking coach, Pettine, acknowledged his history of supporting Hoyer last week at the combine, but he added the team’s decision-makers have been engaging in a “healthy debate” about their quarterback plans.
“You know what I think of [Hoyer],” Pettine said. “We’ll weigh all of our options. Brian’s a guy that won some big games for us, but had some struggles down the stretches, and it’s all stuff to take into account.”
Pettine made it clear the Browns are looking for a starting quarterback this offseason. Johnny Manziel, the 22nd overall pick in last year’s draft who checked into a rehabilitation facility Jan. 28, and Connor Shaw, who’s a long way from becoming a proven NFL starter, are the only quarterbacks under contract for next season.
1. I am fine with McCown as a backup/competing for the starting job. If we signed McCown I would also like to sign Jake Locker.
2. It looks like Hoyer's agent is panicking. The fact that we are negotiating with someone like McCown means we have likely moved on from Hoyer. Hoyer's agent knows that his clients biggest payday would likely come from us. Hoyer has more value with us than any other team because of our knowledge of him and his knowledge the the team.
3. If we sign McCown and then don't do anything else at the QB position, it is time to panic.
4. The Bills have a better situation than us, so I would guess that McCown signs with them.
Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever watched. He should go to San Diego.
I saw them both and he is Not Better than 2 time Heisman trophy winner Archie Griffin
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John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
I don't think Hoyer's agent is panicking. This is all a big chess match.
I'm sure the Browns know exactly what amount Hoyer's agent wanted previously. The Browns obviously want to pay less. Free agency hasn't even started yet.
So basically we have the Browns being linked with wanting a ton of different qb's. Sanchez, Foles, McCown, etc.
Now if Hoyer really, really wants to be here, he may lower his price a bit. He may test FA first, but all of this is just about window of opportunity. Can he wait, does he need to sign before someone else does?
Maybe the Browns don't see much difference between all of those guys, maybe they do.
Unlike most I'm not that worried if he signs here or not. Mentally I still have Manziel being the key not the Vet Temp we end up signing. Lets face it - any of these retreads are our starting QB - we can win games but we won't win a championship.
jmho
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
Unlike most I'm not that worried if he signs here or not. Mentally I still have Manziel being the key not the Vet Temp we end up signing. Lets face it - any of these retreads are our starting QB - we can win games but we won't win a championship.
Agreed.
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Mentally I still have Manziel being the key not the Vet Temp we end up signing. Lets face it - any of these retreads are our starting QB - we can win games but we won't win a championship.
LOLZ at the implication/idea that we can win a championship with Manziel. I don't think its necessarily what you meant, but its how I read it.
Now I heard from Gruden on Mike n Mike they all strongly expect Cutler to be released - he has some Bonus or something hitting in March that should have him released.
I see you're pimping Cutler. He'd be the best available FA QB this year. But he probably won't sign with the Browns. Maybe our rookie coaches can make the correct sales pitch. Doubt it tho.
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