DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Buster Skrine to Jets

As we do every year at this point. And if we sit on our hands and do nothing, we will get pounded this season. As it stands right now I don't believe this team can win 6 games. 5-11 would be doing great "as is" with our upcoming schedule. We don't have a quarterback. And our schedule is much tougher.
So Farmer HAS to increase our talent level if we are to match 7-9 from last year. That means drafting two players in the first that actually PLAY on the field. Something he seemingly has trouble with. As both of our firsts last year played very little and didn't impress when they did. It means spending some of this cap space to improve the team. By RULE teams HAVE to spend 89% of the cap. Or they get penalized. Get busy and get some damned talent for this team!

Wait! Did someone say he signed for 4 years and $25 million w/only $13 million guaranteed?

I realize that those are ridiculous amounts of money for teachers like me who don't have IMPORTANT jobs, but man.........why wouldn't we offer him more than that?

And if we did, what does that say about this FO?

Yep, everything is positive.

sure did win it. they got Josh McCown in FA.

I agree. Seems like something we could have done. I like Buster and the hometown connection, but maybe our staff sees better out of a couple of the younger guys?



Half the chance to success is being given the chance to play. Being given the ball is the biggest part of becoming the closer in baseball v the set-up man. I am sure many set-up pitchers could close enough games if given the opportunity.

I didn't realize there was a hometown connection and besides.........I could care less about that crap. Just produce for the team that is paying you.

I hear what you are saying peen, but there is another way to look at it. Perhaps this particular GM is stubborn and arrogant, and he will do all he can to prove that his draft picks succeed.

Is that out of the blue?

I think not. Come on, man..........you used to be so much more open minded.

I don't rule that out at this point. I am just not ready to pick a side at this point.


He's made some good decisions with low level picks to this point. Maybe those were just lucky and maybe his 1st round picks were unlucky.



I guess what I am saying is I can't name any GMs who made a habit of blowing top round picks but hitting on low level picks.

That's fair. I was just strolling down memory lane and thinking about how you and I used to take a beating about our opinions on Couch.

Man, that was brutal. LOL......

But, we never wavered.

Well it looks like we are placing all bets on Gilbert stepping up? I hope we are not going to overpay Revis.

From what some reports were, we never really gave him a competitive offer because we want to "ride it out" with Gilbert....good grief. One step forward five steps back.

4 years 25 million? really? that's not bad at all. 6 mill a year.

You know...........I really, really, really want to make some positive posts, like I did w/the Hartline signing, bringing Cole in, Farmer admitting he was wrong, Pettine doing a great job of handling the dysfunction in the FO this year, etc

I want to do that not only to be fair, but to make a point of just how freaking stupid the Regime Wars thing has gotten. It's a freaking monster that devours all signs of sensibility and reason.

But man, not too many good things are happening. Most guys, except for Ohio native Hartline, are signing elsewhere. We lose a very cb and are going to roll w/a guy who would rather sleep in than study. We part ties w/the qb the team preferred and sign a guy who went 1 and 10 last year w/a terrible TD/Int ratio and are looking to start a guy who is in rehab!

This all sounds more fictional than a movie script. People wouldn't believe it.

Unfortunately, it's not a movie. It's the Browns.

I think we need to be patient. Hopefully we sign some of the guys who fall through the cracks.

we are not strapped for cash...

why are we trying to find the guy falling through the cracks when we had a stud in our stable we let go for little money?

Skrine is a league average starter with room to grow. He is far from a stud. With that said, I would have loved to have him back at the price he got from the Jets. I understand why we didn't re-sign him, I just don't agree with it.

Many of the very smart teams sit out the first day barrage. We could be doing the same.

Please elaborate.

I also agree it was a decent contract, and wondering why we didn't offer him too.

My only thoughts besides what has been said, i.e. getting younger players, different plan, etc

(Yes it's the first day of official free agency so it's very speculative)

Just to throw another one out there of possibilities , maybe has to do with the article from a day or two ago. Letting some guys go for compensation picks. We've re-signed a couple minor guys and our two key pickups so far are two guys that have been cut from their teams: McCown and Hartline.

For that price tag, it's either the FO didn't think much of him or they wanted to let the younger guys grow and add to the compensation list.


It's still early, a lot more still to transpire.

I've defended Farmer for his draft last year and the UDFAs he was able to bring in; but, if he is willing to put his job on the line standing behind his underachieving draft selections and not retain guys that prove they can play, he can pack his bags!

People are saying that we didn't sign Skrine because they want Gilbert to have his spot. I understand that thinking (because we invested a high pick in him), but I don't agree that Gilbert has earned that shot.

Okay, that makes sense.

I am actually hearing he took less to go to the jets.

That's even worse. It fits in w/the Shanny and Cameron rejections.

he earned it.. wish him the best.

Yea not sure whats up with that, he was from GA, went to college in Tenn. Jets are worse than we are. Its a head scratcher if true.

FWIW, it doesn't appear to be for lack of trying on the Browns part...

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I'd say a little misled RT @brownstown1217: @LaneAdkins Do you think Browns had deals in place and guys decided to make stops elsewhere

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@LaneAdkins
Honestly trying RT @scott2824: @LaneAdkins Browns gonna do anything? Or is 2016 the plan. On paper worse today than at end of year by far.


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@LaneAdkins
Jobbed a bit RT @BrownsBucksFan: @LaneAdkins @brownstown1217 Go figure. Browns FO was outsmarted


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Many think owner is a joke RT @Clevelanderboat: @LaneAdkins Would a Layer above Farmer help their cause in ur opinion? Pres of FB operation

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In every game this season,the Browns will have a disadvantage at the following

1. QB
2. GM
3. culture

how is this front office going to sell the great "Josh McCown to Brian Hartline" connection this season?
Just because this franchise went 7-9 in 2014 is no guarentee it will improve on its win total in 2015.
Who are the game changers in the front 7?
How is McCown gonna fare against the AFC North?
what current WR will force a secondary to give bracket coverage.?

Yes, that was my point. The dysfunction of the FO and history of losing makes Cleveland an undesirable location.

I understand, hence the tweets/reports I posted supporting said presumption while illustrating it's not for a lack trying.

Additionally, we lost a very OC w/an unproven guy who has never called plays before. We also lost a qb coach who was respected in the NFL for a guy who has never coached in the NFL before.

Sorry Milk.

No worries.

If Lane is right (and he is usually money), it confirms my worst fear.....Haslem is the problem and is in Mike Brown company. If it was just Farmer you can fire him and start over, but the owner isn't going anywhere.

I hope this isn't true, but if it is we are severely handicapped. Really hope that was LA venting on that tweet.

I have yet to see a GM or culture play a snap.

Yeah, I don't get it either Vers. We HAVE to spend 89% of the cap. By rule. Why not spend it on a corner that has played well for us? I'm under no delusion that he is a great player. But he was solid and dependable. Better than anyone else on the team other than Haden. And in THIS defense corner is everything. So unless they plan on spending another first on a corner to bookend with Haden, or have a plan to sign a better player in FA(at a much higher cost), then I really don't get letting him go....

Gilbert I understand, he's a first round pick, but I wouldn't put a lot of faith in Desir..

Based on the effort given by Gilbert last year, I wouldn't put a lot of faith in either him or Desir. I really hope we have a backup plan. Perrish Cox is a start.

Maybe faith is the wrong word.. chances is probably a better word. First round picks get more second chances to get it figured out... Fourth round picks from no-name schools get fewer chances.

This is true. I just hope Justin Gilbert isn't Morris Claiborne.

sad to see him go

I know as Browns fans we have it rough - but to look at the worst possible reason for everything that happens is depressingly crazy. We absolutely don't know that and I don't even think it.... with the exodus of FA's - there would be a lot of "rumblings" going on from the players leaving if this were the true. Until I hear it from a player - I'll continue to think this sort of talk is down to a paranoid, down trodden fan base. Skrine left and chose a different team. Sure I wanted him but it does not single handedly mean the team is in free fall.