DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Everything Else... The Implications of Racism

And as usual I reply to someone 5 posts too late...

I think I agree with most of that Voleur.

A good comparison would be criminals. Lets say you have a shoplifter and a serial killer. Are they both criminals? Yes. But to limit our language to just calling them criminals does a disservice to the intensity and penalty of the appropriate crimes. So we have words like murderer and thief to better describe the criminal behavior.

In the same fashion, racism/ageism/sexism are all forms of prejudice or bigotry. There is a discussion right now about racism (and sexism) being redefined to add the "prejudice + power" moniker and I don't think it's altogether wrong as long as we have something to replace it that people can agree on. If someone hates a certain group of people based on their race but has no power or ability to benefit, if we can't call them racist, what do we call them? And something more specific than bigot because it doesn't accurately describe the behavior.

I used to think that until I educated myself on the difference between racism vs predjudice. In America Blacks as a group have no true political power to enforce a racist agenda. Blacks can however be bigots. Now if we're talking about an African nation where Blacks are the majority, I agree with you 100%. They can pass laws that actually impact negatively on the lives of other racial groups.

I used to think that until I educated myself on the difference between racism vs predjudice. In America Blacks as a group have no true political power to enforce a racist agenda. Blacks can however be bigots. Now if we're talking about an African nation where Blacks are the majority, I agree with you 100%. They can pass laws that actually impact negatively on the lives of other racial groups.

May I ask why we never see posts that are about black on black crime or black on white crime or on white on white crime?

Every time I come to this forum, I see massive threads that are about how evil white cops are abusing poor, innocent black men.

I do think that there are many white racist cops that abuse black men. I also think that if you had to deal w/law-breaking citizens every day of your working life and most of them were black men, you might not be so understanding.

I also think that there are more black on black crimes than there are white on black crimes. Why don't we discuss that?

I also think there are plenty of black on white crimes. Why don't we discuss that?

I also think that whites assault other whites. Why don't we discuss that?

I see this narrowing of the topic as a form of racism in itself. Yeah, it's black racism vs whites. Cry foul while ignoring everything else.

Do not misinterpret my point. I AM NOT DEFENDING ANY WHITE COP WHO HURTS A BLACK MAN W/OUT CAUSE.

I am saying that racists exist in all races. I am saying that that only focusing in on one race vs another is a form of racism in itself.

I have been a victim of racism on several occasions and I am white. I just don't freaking cry about it or pretend that blacks are the only ones who are racist.

There are racists in every freaking group. That is a fact!

Now, let me ask you this.............who breaks more laws than anyone else? White males? Black males? White females? Black females? Hispanic men? Hispanic women? Poor white people? Poor black people? Poor hispanic people?

Do you think that has anything to do w/this? Or should we simply ignore the facts?

As a school teacher, I was astounded when the state of California passed a law about schools not being able to inflict consequences on students for cussing them out, being disrespectful, insubordinate, threatening, etc. The logic was that a disproportionate number of students being suspended were black males.

No kidding. I wonder why that is? Because the teachers are ALL racists? I will readily admit that some are. I can't stand those teachers. On the other hand, I work w/a black teacher who ignored a black student cheating on a test but punished a white student for not returning their class pictures on time. What is that if not racism?

I think we are setting ourselves up for more conflicts. I think it would serve society better to focus on all races coming together rather than focusing in on how one race is abusing another.

Perhaps the focus should be on understanding, education, tolerance, acceptance, and trying to resolve problems rather than assign blame.

Most of you won't get that until it's too late.

Rev Al and Rev Jesse are as much of representatives for African Americans as Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are for Caucasians.

Do you fear Al Sharpton?

True but Newt Gingrinch and Mitt Romney are not acting on the behalf of all white people. They never claimed to be that I am aware of. Reverends Sharpton and Jackson have claimed to be speaking for the oppressed black minority.

j.c.

Racism is an industry folks plain and simple cause when the money or votes aren't there anymore the libs will find another false narrative to hang their hypocritical azzes on .I.M.H.O. L
Just remember Prof. Gruber said that they count on stupid voters

j.c.

Racism is an industry folks plain and simple cause when the money or votes aren't there anymore the libs will find another false narrative to hang their hypocritical azzes on .I.M.H.O. L
Just remember Prof. Gruber said that they count on stupid voters

d

But if it is your contention that racism is gone, except for those propping it up for profit, then I don't even know what to say.

I know what to say, Riley is closer to being right than you are on this one. I deal with a lot of people and racism is almost gone from my experience.

I find the people who stifle open conversation the most are what I refer to as apologetic whites. They are the ones to raise a fuss and create a scene in an effort to show just how very enlightened they are. .

I used to help with Hall Rentals years ago and I noticed that almost every white family we rented to had blacks in their families. Hispanics had zero blacks. Black families had an occasional Hispanic and almost never had any whites.

If as you say, you have to look deep to find racism today, well you have to dig deep to find coal too. It is seldom just lying around.

It is my experience that people don't talk openly, not because of racism, but because everyone is so touchy these days that you have to be careful about all talk, not just about race. I find the people who stifle open conversation the most are what I refer to as apologetic whites. They are the ones to raise a fuss and create a scene in an effort to show just how very enlightened they are.

A lot of psychologist have done studies and how slavery STILL effects the black community to this day. There is a massive distrust between black males and black females because of slavery. Why? I told y'all before, but i'm going to say it again.

Black male A.(BM-A)
Black male B.(BM-B)
Black Female A.(BF-A)
Black female B. (BF-B)
Black Male C.(BM-C)
Slave Master.

A and B are married couples. slaves were allowed to be married.

Let's say BMA isn't doing what he's told. Slave master told him about it already, but he feels he needs to teach BM-A a lesson. Guess what he does? He has BM-B RAPE BF-A right in front of BM-A.

if BM-B refuses to rape BF-A, then slave master has BM-B whipped, and then he has BM-C rape BF-C, as well as BF-A. and the cycle goes on and on.

which still affects black women to this DAY. They have a massive distrust of black men. which is why the whole "independent woman" stemmed from, or part of the reason.

want another example? Sure, I'll hook you up.

All one has to do is consider the source.

And that's no exaggeration.

What ever happened to the Skype thing?

I think it is a silly argument as I don't really understand what mechanism would cause what you are saying to happen. But as you are the one who made the statement, you should provide the studies and other evidence to back it up and maybe I will consider otherwise.

I think it is fair to say that blacks have (much) more leeway when talking about racial issues than whites do. I don't think that is so outlandish of a statement that you would not take me seriously, but that's your call.

In any case, I think you have made many good points as it relates to racial issues. I think whites do generally have it easier than blacks in society, whether talking about dealings with other people in general or police specifically. I wish it was not like that, but I'm not so naive as to not understand what you are getting at.

That doesn't change my opinion on the slave master theory you advocated above being silly, or that it is a seriously slippery slope for me to debate on. Perhaps you see it differently.