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Well, there's finally a positive media buzz around the Browns and it's nice to see. I guess this is what happens when you put a face on the franchise. All eyes on Quinn at minicamp -- Yahoo! Sports
By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer
May 4, 2007
BEREA, Ohio (AP) -- Satellite TV trucks were stacked up side-by-side and there were more media members watching from the sideline than players on the field.
The Cleveland Browns never had a rookie mini-camp look like this.
With Brady Quinn around, nothing may ever be the same again.
Wearing his familiar No. 10, and a shiny orange helmet he had dreamed of buckling on since he was a kid, Quinn practiced for the first time as a pro quarterback as the Browns began a three-day camp for their draft picks and free agents.
When the 1 1/2 -hour workout ended, Quinn wanted more.
"I had too much fun out there," he said. "I think the practice was too short for me. I've been waiting so long for this opportunity, and now it's come."
Quinn, who wound up with the Browns after being passed over by several other teams in the first round of the NFL draft last Saturday, showed some offseason rust during passing drills. It was the first time he had worked out in a team environment since Notre Dame's appearance in the Sugar Bowl in January.
The 6-foot-3, 232-pounder made some crisp, short throws. He also had a few wobblers, one bad one that caught in the wind and flattened.
"It's been awhile," he said. "There's always room for improvement."
Quinn is also aware that every pass he throws from now until September will be dissected for its speed and precision. It's just part of the package when you're the golden-boy quarterback expected to turn around a once-proud franchise.
"That's fine," Quinn said of the added attention, "and you have to realize that because now it is a job. I'm going to scrutinize my own passes. I'm the one who is going to be upset if it's a little behind or maybe a little too far out front."
Last weekend in New York, Quinn's agonizing freefall through the first round was captured on national TV and has became a permanent part of draft lore. Expected to be taken no later than the top 10, he slid to No. 22, where he was grabbed by the Browns, who traded a second-round pick and a first-rounder in 2008 with Dallas to get him.
And while many viewed Quinn's drop a disaster, he sees it differently.
"Everybody keeps labeling it as a disappointment, but for me it worked out great," he said. "I'm where I wanted to be and I wasn't disappointed at all. I was just happy to be blessed with the opportunity.
Cleveland Browns quarterback coach Rip Scherer, left, talks with quarterback Brady Quinn during practice, Friday, May 4, 2007, in Berea, Ohio. Quinn, who slid deeper in the in the NFL draft than he ever imagined, joined Cleveland's rookies and free agents at mini-camp Friday.
"We went to (New York's) Mt. Sinai Hospital and saw a bunch of kids who are never going to have the opportunity to do what we are doing. For me to have the opportunity to do it in the place that I wanted to, close to my home town, is a gift from God."
Quinn spent the past few days in South Bend, Ind., reviewing his new playbook and relaxing. He also got his hair cut -- at least one person thought he needed one.
Earlier this week, Joe Theismann, another former Fighting Irish QB, blasted Quinn in a radio interview, saying the 22-year-old looked "unprofessional" when he was on stage after being drafted. Theismann had a problem with Quinn's tie, his "just showered" hair and was bothered by him chewing gum.
Quinn took it all in stride, but acknowledged the comments stung.
"It's tough," he said. "I apologize to anyone, obviously, who is a Notre Dame alum, or for those fans who thought I wasn't being very business like. I was there for awhile, and at that moment in time, when you finally get picked after waiting for 4 1/2 hours, the last thought in my head was spit out your gum, fix your hair or make sure your shirt and everything looked good.
"I was just trying to get on stage as fast as possible and get that Browns jersey in my hand."
Quinn said Theismann's remarks were the only negatives ones he heard.
"I'm a big fan of his," Quinn said. "I guess he's not a big fan of me. He's one of those guys -- Joe Theismann, Joe Montana -- they've been right there along the way, people who have kind of come back and helped out our program. And he has been one of those big influences, so I have a lot of respect for him.
"I think him making those comments only kind of makes you look at yourself in the mirror and say 'Well, hey, maybe you need to look at those sorts of things.' And obviously, there in case is the haircut."
By the time he needs another one, Quinn could be the Browns' starting quarterback. But he's not taking anything for granted. If the draft taught him any lesson, it's that nothing is a given.
"We have three solid guys who are here in front of me," Quinn said. "I've just got to come in and compete. And that's the opportunity I have been given, that's what I am looking forward to doing."
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Here's another one about a receiver we wanted to grab until Cincinnati took him in the 7th round: Quinn's friend trying to latch on in Cincinnati
By JOE KAY, AP Sports Writer
May 4, 2007
CINCINNATI (AP) -- The Browns were on the phone, which meant that Chinedum Ndukwe was about to have another one of those serendipitous moments that keeps him linked with his best friend.
The Notre Dame safety was going to get the chance to join Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn -- a buddy from their high school days -- in Cleveland. The Browns were ready to sign him as a free agent when the seventh round of the draft wrapped up.
"It was about to be a crazy twist of fate," Ndukwe said Friday.
Then, someone else called -- the Browns' intrastate rival.
The Cincinnati Bengals wanted to let Ndukwe know that they were taking him with the third-to-last pick in the draft, the 253rd overall. Ndukwe couldn't believe it.
Instead of heading north to stay with Quinn, he was heading south to join the team that was his favorite.
"It was crazy," Ndukwe said Friday, during a break at rookie minicamp.
It took something like that to separate two players who have been close since their high school days in suburban Columbus. They have played together, hung out together, roomed together, and dreamed of making the pros together.
"We're best friends," Ndukwe said.
Now, they're opponents -- sort of. A friendship so deep can't really have any animosity.
It started in junior high school, when Ndukwe's family moved from Tennessee to Powell, just outside Columbus. He wasn't a football player at the time -- he loved soccer and basketball -- but befriended a transplanted Cincinnatian who urged him to try it.
"He convinced me that the only way I was going to make more friends was by playing football," Ndukwe said. "So, you know, when you're that young, the most important thing to you is getting friends. So I came out (for football). And the next person I met was Brady Quinn -- it was really that quick."
He attended Coffman High School, where Quinn the quarterback and Ndukwe the receiver deepened their friendship. Together, they went to Notre Dame, where Quinn developed into one of the nation's best passers and Ndukwe wound up shuttling from receiver to linebacker to safety.
When the draft came around last weekend, Ndukwe -- his name is pronounced en-DUKE'-way and his nicknames are Duke or Doom -- watched his friend suffer in silence on television as he slid to 22nd in the first round, where the Browns traded up to pick him.
"It was awful," Ndukwe said of his friend's misery.
Ndukwe did even more sliding, almost missing out on the draft completely. Finally, the Bengals called, and he could smile. He had attended Bengals games with his friend from Cincinnati and became a fan.
Quinn always wanted to play for Cleveland. Ndukwe chose the other Ohio team as his favorite.
"You're either one or the other," Ndukwe said.
Although Ndukwe is still unpolished at safety, the Bengals think he could develop into a solid one. He majored in marketing and psychology, a combination that impressed coaches.
"He's a very bright guy," Bengals defensive backs coach Kevin Coyle said. "He's got a dual degree coming out of Notre Dame. He has to transfer that (to the field) and will have to contribute on special teams."
The Bengals were aware of his friendship with Quinn. It's reminiscent of the way quarterback Carson Palmer was a housemate with safety Troy Polamalu at Southern California before going their separate ways -- Palmer to Cincinnati, Polamalu to the rival Steelers.
"Hopefully, they'll develop quite a rivalry as their careers go on, much like Carson and Polamalu have," Coyle said.
This one is just getting started. Quinn made sure of that.
"The first thing he said to me when I finally got drafted was, 'Hey, congratulations, now I get to beat you twice a year. Get ready,"' Ndukwe said. "He's a good guy, but he's a competitor."
So is his best friend.
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There's a video of this interview on the Browns site. Joe and Romeo are also interviewed.
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I'm loving every bit of this coverage we're getting.
If Brady pulls through, we'll get the Vince Young treatment. aka ESPN overhyping things until people from other cities are nauseous.
But I can't get enough of it!
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Earlier this week, Joe Theismann, another former Fighting Irish QB, blasted Quinn in a radio interview, saying the 22-year-old looked "unprofessional" when he was on stage after being drafted. Theismann had a problem with Quinn's tie, his "just showered" hair and was bothered by him chewing gum.
It's none of Theisman's business how BQ wears his hair. God, sometimes I wish LT would jump up and down on Theismann's leg again.
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Well, his new hairdo does look much better.  I do agree that JT needs to mind his own business, though.
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Looks like Quinn has a fresh buzz job...............maybe just a small sign of how serious he is about getting ready for the season...................college days are over! He sure seems as if he is ready to take it to the next level and get down and dirty with the playbook and getting to know his teammates. He seems like a very smart kid.................someone that is going to learn from his mistakes..............but who knows how long it will take.....until we really know if he is going to be a good NFL caliber QB!  Just to see our rookies our there in a Browns uniform is pretty cool if you ask me...............damn...................and it is only the first week of May! 
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He seems like a very smart kid.................someone that is going to learn from his mistakes..............but who knows how long it will take.....until we really know if he is going to be a good NFL caliber QB!
He went to Coffman, of course he's a smart kid!
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Let me just say right now that this draft was a dream come true. If I die tommorrow, in my mind we just won the Super Bowl. The future is brighter than it has been since our return to the NFL.  No more excuses about the OL because wether some of you want to admit it or not Savage has addressed it each and every year since he has been here.  And now we no longer have a back up quality QB leading this team, we now have a franchise QB to lead us to the future.  Every sports talk show and every NFL tv show has had us as the talk of the town, and any thought of going back is stupid! 
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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Sorry...I have to be behind a fellow Coffman alumni
Technically that should be fellow Coffman "alumnus" Just busting on you and your "smart" school man 
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IMO, Joe Theismann is a hack. I would use stronger rhetoric, but for fear of getting banned or repramanded i'll avoid that.
It was hard to watch some of the monday night games just because anytime Korheiser (who i like, but realize that he wasn't there to provide the most in depth football knowledge) would say anything Theismann would reach around and basically call him an idiot.
But then Theismann comes out and is the only one who has anything negative to say about this. Brady was hoping to go as high as number one overall and had to sit while people watched him fall for four and a half hours. And what did he do? He got his family, who was more upset than himself, away from the cameras and talked to suzy kolber and took it all in stride.
Since then he's answered every reporter's question the way you would want it to be answered. He gets called out by an alum for having an askew tie, long hair, and gum? Brady's response is "i'm a big fan of his" lol classic. Basically what i'm sayin is we got a great kid and a company man who's not gonna embarass the team by playing down to the childish antics of those who are even twice as old as he is.
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Earlier this week, Joe Theismann, another former Fighting Irish QB, blasted Quinn in a radio interview, saying the 22-year-old looked "unprofessional" when he was on stage after being drafted. Theismann had a problem with Quinn's tie, his "just showered" hair and was bothered by him chewing gum.
Isn't the original pronounciation of his last name Theez-man? Didn't he change it to rhyme with Heisman, which he didn't get?
He sounds like the old timers who didn't like Namath because he wasn't clean-cut.
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I don't mind Theisman....he is like all the others IMO....just some guy or gal talking.
I ususally don't pay much attention to what they say anyway.
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Poop on Joe Theisman I want to talk Quinn a minute!
I didn't want him at three and am about 95% happy we got him where we did.
I just watched his after practice presser and the kid handles the media very well. I realize being a domer that he's quite used to it and is a veteran in that area. I make no secret that I like Frye and think he can be succesful at QB here...but there's somehting about BQ that makes you like him, I can't, even though I tried, see some iota of being a phony. The kid just seems like a genuine good guy! Seems ALL the media love him (ok, not Hoge and Theezman so much) and when was the last time any major networks were at a Browns mini camp?! It just seems to be fate that this guy is gonna be the starter, face of the team, media darling etc. that will turn this franchise around. You don't have to like it/him (I do like Charlie again) but if you don't get some excitement about whats happening in Berea...well, better check your pulse!
Oh, just keep him away from train tracks, busses, MOTORCYCLES, the Flats etc. Quaranteen the guy for cryin out loud!
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One thing that is really nice about all this media buzz is it takes a lot of pressure off of Joe - Joe was the #3 overall pick and how much do we actually hear about him from the national media? hardly anything!
Quinn is use to all this media attention with being the QB at ND... so he is taking it in stride. It's so nice to actually have positive news coming out of Cleveland for once
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I was watching on NFL network the top 10 drafts of all time. Let's hope these two turn into HOFers and we can get on that board.
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One thing that is really nice about all this media buzz is it takes a lot of pressure off of Joe - Joe was the #3 overall pick and how much do we actually hear about him from the national media? hardly anything!
Quinn is use to all this media attention with being the QB at ND... so he is taking it in stride. It's so nice to actually have positive news coming out of Cleveland for once
Actually, to be quite honest, I think Joe's probably the most famous left tackle in the game right now. That fishing trip got him extra brownie points with ESPN. Hell, even Kornheiser and Wilbon keep talking about him.
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The 6-foot-3, 232-pounder made some crisp, short throws. He also had a few wobblers, one bad one that caught in the wind and flattened.
Quinn;s hands are too small.
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It is pronounced Theez-mann. The Notre Dame publicity Department changed the pronounciation, pushing for a Hice-mann....(hehe) With the internal spelling the same, it was an obvious ploy...
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but he doesn't throw sidearm....
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It simply amazes me that Quinn hasn't thrown a pass or handed the ball off to anyone in an NFL game and he's already a Media Darling ad the Face of the Franchise...
Him being in the Eye of the Storm so to speak can be good or it can be bad..
For instance,, if the media starts calling for Brady to start before the coach feels he's ready, then you can bet soem knuckleheaded fans will believe it and there you go,, a mess and a kid thrown in before he's ready..
That's bad, but what's worse is if he isn't perfect from day one,, he'll just get killed in the press,,
Of course, the other end of that is he lights it up from the first game and everyone loves Brady,,,,,
He's a rookie,,, thus, I don't like the odds.
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It simply amazes me that Quinn hasn't thrown a pass or handed the ball off to anyone in an NFL game and he's already a Media Darling ad the Face of the Franchise...
Him being in the Eye of the Storm so to speak can be good or it can be bad..
For instance,, if the media starts calling for Brady to start before the coach feels he's ready, then you can bet soem knuckleheaded fans will believe it and there you go,, a mess and a kid thrown in before he's ready..
That's bad, but what's worse is if he isn't perfect from day one,, he'll just get killed in the press,,
Of course, the other end of that is he lights it up from the first game and everyone loves Brady,,,,,
He's a rookie,,, thus, I don't like the odds.
Right now is where the Browns PR people need to pull Brady aside and say, "Here's the deal. You are a rookie, you played for Notre Dame you will be a media darling. You have the face and the personality. You'll be looked at as the 'face of the Browns.' Do NOT let it go to your head. Do NOT read the paper, do not believe press hype about you. Focus all your energy on being better. It's rare for success for a rookie QB, ignore the media - listen to your coachs. Don't become Big Head (I mean Big Ben)."
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damn good advice there Soup.
It is nice to be getting recognition for good things in Cleveland though.... not something we've had much of for a looong time.
Browns is the Browns
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It simply amazes me that Quinn hasn't thrown a pass or handed the ball off to anyone in an NFL game and he's already a Media Darling ad the Face of the Franchise...
Him being in the Eye of the Storm so to speak can be good or it can be bad..
For instance,, if the media starts calling for Brady to start before the coach feels he's ready, then you can bet soem knuckleheaded fans will believe it and there you go,, a mess and a kid thrown in before he's ready..
That's bad, but what's worse is if he isn't perfect from day one,, he'll just get killed in the press,,
Of course, the other end of that is he lights it up from the first game and everyone loves Brady,,,,,
He's a rookie,,, thus, I don't like the odds.
Right now is where the Browns PR people need to pull Brady aside and say, "Here's the deal. You are a rookie, you played for Notre Dame you will be a media darling. You have the face and the personality. You'll be looked at as the 'face of the Browns.' Do NOT let it go to your head. Do NOT read the paper, do not believe press hype about you. Focus all your energy on being better. It's rare for success for a rookie QB, ignore the media - listen to your coachs. Don't become Big Head (I mean Big Ben)."
From everything I've gathered, I think he's grounded enough to think that way as it is.
Dropping to #22 will do that to ya.
As much as I liked Ben as a QB prospect, he seems like the ultimate guy you DON'T want leading your team. Word is he's last in and first out in terms of work ethic, then has the nerve to throw Cowher under the bus when Cowher had been a class act towards him.
I don't know if this is just a political act by Quinn or not, but according to Diam he's pretty genuine so we'll see. First thing he did was talk about Joe Thomas protecting him, I think that says a lot about his character.
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just clickin, it really seems that some people think that RAC and Phil will fold to media pressure if Frye does not light it up and then put Quinn in before he's ready or they feel he's ready. I don't think that will happen. I think ideally they would like Quinn to sit this season, maybe he gets some pt towards the end of the season if we are not going to the playoffs or have no shot at it. Now if an injury happens to Frye then yes I think Quinn may be thrown in the fire. Although, they might still use D.A. just to protect Quinn if they really feel he's not quite ready. Also I wonder just how much Charlie Weiss' advice will play? The advice about starting him day 1.
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just clickin, it really seems that some people think that RAC and Phil will fold to media pressure if Frye does not light it up and then put Quinn in before he's ready or they feel he's ready. I don't think that will happen.
I hope you are right about that,, I really hope so,, We DO NOT need another ruined young QB around here,,
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Continuing with the theme of the thread, Theisman has always been a blowhard who loves the sound of his own voice. In the case of baggin' on Quinn, he's seriously out of line.
Sorry Theisman, but the draft wasn't a "job interview." That happened during the combine. His other comments made no sense as well, and he's been lambasted by virtually all the media outlets, and rightfully so.
As for Quinn, I still have reservations about him. I'm not the least bit convinced he's the starter at the beginning of the year, and think that distinction belongs to Frye. I wanted no part of Quinn at 3, but understand the gamble of Quinn at 22. His accuracy issues are the exact same ones that I've detested with Frye, and if there's one thing that would lead to his downfall as an NFL starter, it's that.
I get the gamble, but I'm going to remain extremely skeptical until he proves my fears wrong.
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Toad is not the only one with reservations about Quinn. Hopefully, they will prove groundless but the fears are still there. I also would like to second the emotion that I'd like to see Brady take a snap in a real game before we cast his bust for Canton. The odds are much greater that he'll struggle this year than they are for him having a Pro Bowl type season. Patience, people, patience.
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j/c It is understandable that folks have reservations about ANY QB taken on draft day (particularly those taken in the first round). Regardless of the physical and mental abilities a college QB brings to the league, you just never know for sure if he will be able to make the adjustment to playing the most difficult position in the NFL at the level expected of an everyday starter. Quinn at #3 would have made me very nervous. At #22, I think he's a steal though and if he ends up being as good as Diam SAYS he'll be, Savage will look like the genius we all hoped he would be. 
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We are stupid if he is the starter at the begining of next year. Let Fry take the shots the 1st few games while the OL is gelling. The best thing we can do for his development is to let him sit the 1st 5 to 8 games...............watch.......learn..........and avoid the blown protections that are going to come at 1st with at least 3 new guys on the OL.
If Fry plays good........great trade value........if he sucks it doesn't matter much, because this team will be lucky to sniff 7 wins with whomever at QB. We need to think long term and not be short sighted about this situation.
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Totally agree on that one. I don't care how good Quinn looks, those first games he should be on the sideline watching. I don't think a rookie QB has ever produced right away, and letting Frye play the first games will allow him to at least show his stuff. Although Quinn certainly should alternate with Frye in preseason games. I just don't want to send Quinn in to play a 16 game season yet, no matter how ready he seems. Let the guy get aquainted with the NFL on a slower track. If Frye is producing, don't send Brady in. If Frye isn't producing, play Quinn at least after the Bye Week. Palmer got an entire year to watch, he turned out great. May be Brady can do the same thing.
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Romeo's job is most likely on the line. Do you think he will be able to hold off playing Quinn? The way this draft went I feel that it's win now or you're gone for Romeo. If Frye falters in preseason or early in the season I don't think he will have a choice whether to play Quinn or not.
No way would I trade Frye unless Anderson clearly beats him out. We need a decent backup the way QBs get hurt.
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I'm all for Quinn keeping the bench warm while he watches and learns. Not sure exactly WHAT he'll learn while he's sitting there though. I think along the same lines as Elway did when he played as a rookie.. he said he learn't and experienced more in that year than 3 years of "studying" from the bench would have done him. What are we protecting him from..A bad line ?..getting beat to death and gunshy ? You think if Frye takes 5 sacks a game early that the line will get fixed well enough to put Quinn in later ? Are we afraid of interceptions ? Nothing will stop those BUT experience in live action, they will come and he will will learn from them but NOT from the bench. I'm in no hurry to watch another rookie QB make mistakes but lets face it.. we only won 4 games last year ! Quinn IS as ready as it gets coming out of college. Get on with it.
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I saw that earlier this week. I thought some of his best throws were against USC.
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LOL Cal, everyone has a highlight reel... those are fun to watch but in order to have a proper perspective, you should watch the Lowlight reel also... There is one on Brady but I'll be darned if I can find it.
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Media hype don't need no stinkin' lowlights.
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