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Arch, it's not evidence until you get accused of something. You are not required to keep every e-mail ever sent to you (or from you) on the off chance that it might someday be important.

With that said, should the rules be a little different for a state department employee when the e-mails concern an incident in which Americans died? Yea, I think they probably should keep all of those for a couple years because you know it's going to be an issue.

There is only one thing that me and my democratic rival can agree upon, in 25+ years of politics.

Read my lips. NO MORE CLINTONS! AND NO MORE BUSHES!

I don't even think we NEED a president anymore.

I'd be fine with Wal-Mart being president, or Sysco, or something. I don't think a person is right for the position going forward anymore.

Best option, a vacant presidency.


9. ( Would you rather fall off a motorcycle and then get run over by a roller coaster; or fall off of a roller coaster and then get run over by a motorcycle? )

We are dropping nukes on Minneapolis. We have identified our "Target" and their headquarters

Why would you believe she complied with the law? Because of her past history or because she deleted emails at her legal team's discretion? There is NOTHING in her history and/or actions in this direct regard that lead to a reasonable conclusion that she did nothing illegal in regards to Benghazi.

Your constant connecting of FOX/GOP highlights your own bias. She deleted emails that are YET to be seen...at the same time you claim that the GOP has gone overboard in their investigation. How can one go overboard in an investigation when potential evidence is purposely destroyed by the defendant? They can't see the evidence because she eliminated it...and since they can't prosecute her on the evidence discovered to date, you determine she must be innocent and the evil FOX/GOP should just leave here alone. Mind boggling.

At a minimum she was totally asleep at the Benghazi wheel. That alone is cause for a very thorough investigation. Couple her ineptness in that regard with the deleted emails and private server and you darn well SHOULD have the media AND Congress in your grill.

Your disdain for FOX/GOP should be also aimed at CNN/DEMs for their total whitewashing of the issue.

Add in the "lost" IRS emails and tell me there is not a pattern of deceit in the Administration.

Claiming Hillary innocent in this case due to a lack of evidence-to-date is exactly what she wanted to happen.

"I can't prove it because there's no proof, but that's all the proof I need!!!"

Vent post here, please move on if not wanting to hear grown man complain lol

... so at work, I cannot help but overhear two females talking up Hillary, pledging their vote and support and all that crap.

Not knowing the girls that well, I approached them professionally and entered their conversation freely with open arms.

I look em' in the eye and ask, word for word: "so what is your opinion on Benghazi?"

The reply I got was "what's that?" from one and the other girl just had a dumbfounded look on her face.

Just makes no sense to me. I wouldn't support something I at least don't know some details and facts about. People like that I wish was banned from voting.

Until a candidate comes out that's better than Hilary. She has my vote.

Sorry if I don't wanna be stuck in the Stone Age with the republican candidates.

Because the evidence was destroyed by the defendant...you left out...you know...the point in the entire matter.

Yeah...because Hillary is a fresh-on-the-scene, renaissance woman with such a strong leadership background.

Did I say she was a fresh on the scene candidate?

I did I say I don't want candidates with these backwards old ideas?

And sometimes I wonder on this board if Yall even know what leadership is.

Example: Scott walker is a leader to Yall. Lead his states economy right into the ground.

"I can't prove it because there's no proof, but that's all the proof I need!!!"

You said you didn't want a Stone Age Republican...but a Stone Age Democrat is just fine...as long as it's a Democrat, eh?

Yeah Swish...You are the only one who knows what leadership is. You have all the answers...if only everyone else would just "think".

Your retort says it all.

To be fair, a stone age democrat is a lot further along than a stone age republican.

Your entire case against her is built in hypotheticals. Of course I'm not going to take it seriously.

If you have something against me. Just say it.

Everytime I post you seem to have this "how dare I" response.

Her deleting emails is not hypothetical...she did it...she acknowledged doing it...there are thousands still "missing".

Her use of private email for State business is against the rules and was not hypothetical. She did it...she acknowledged it...those emails were also deleted.

The only hypothetical in this regard is the one where she is somehow deemed innocent of wrongdoing as a result of her own wrongdoing.

I don't know you...but if I did and for some reason I had something against you, I would let you know...and would do so via private message and not some social media outlet.

I challenge your posts because you ask to be challenged...you ask for a response...you are posting on a message board afterall. Then you get indignant when someone has a very different take than do you. Then you turn the argument personal.

You only get the "how dare you" tone from me when you go and do EXACTLY what you complain about in the actions of others or are contradictory in your stance.

At what point did I make anything in this thread personal?

I simply made a statement, he countered, and I countered.

Chill out dude. You're the one talking about "I have all the answers". Not me.

You stated that if I have a problem with you, I should say so. You DID NOT ask if I had a problem with you in THIS specific thread. I made the comment that you regularly degrade debate to personal attacks...wait for it...



And there you have it.

You're still all basing this off of the thought that those emails were incriminating against her.

So people are acting like they've never defeated an email in their life.

No, basing it off of the thought that it allows for the appearance of impropriety.

I know that no computer system is unhackable.. but do you want the Secretary of State relying on Norton to keep people from accessing official government correspondence because it's saved on her server at home? Or the servers of the rest of her staff?

It just doesn't look good. I'm pretty sure that Hillary did, in fact, order the code red.

I once threw everything I had at an email but was not able to defeat it. I ended up deleting it.

Lol typing on an iPhone bro at work. Autocorrect and spelling is atrocious sometimes.

And you are assuming the deleted e-mails had nothing in them about the issue.

The fact is nobody has any way of knowing. And it's certainly not the first time such a thing has happened.

FLASHBACK: When Millions Of Lost Bush White House Emails (From Private Accounts) Triggered A Media Shrug

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/03/10/flashback-when-millions-of-lost-bush-white-hous/202820

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Sorry, not quite sure what qft means.

I'm not saying that there was anything sinister about it. I'm simply showing that the entire "missing emails" is nothing new.

quote for truth

I suppose when you only have one Libby Democrat to vote for, you will overlook a whole host of issues to get it done.

Wowser......5 million e-mails lost over 2 years?

"Responding to congressional demands for emails in connection with its investigation into the partisan firing of eight U.S. attorneys, the White House announced that as many as five million emails, covering a two-year span, had been lost."

Uh - according to my math, that's 6849 e-mails per day.

Now - did W. delete 6849 e-mails per day?

I need to get up to speed. I generally only get 2 e-mails per day. And they don't pertain to anything. Trust me. I delete them, because none of them matter. Trust me. And trust hillary.

On a side note, isn't a president allowed to fire federal judges? I honestly don't know.

False. Waka Flocka Flame is running as well. He might have my vote lol

Can't run for President when he is staring as Hans Solo's sidekick in the new Star wars!

j/c

Politics.

Hillary Clinton's Attorney Tells Benghazi Panel Not To Delay Public Testimony http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/22...kusaolp00000592

Earlier today I read that Gowdy said the investigation could run into 2016. (Benghazi) because the White House and Clinton are dragging their feet with all the "possible" new information - the somehow deleted e-mails that weren't / aren't recoverable.

Now, we have Clinton's lawyer saying "let's go. Let's not delay this. She'll testify, right now. The sooner the better." (basically).

If you'll take the time to read the article, make up your own mind.

It does seem that the investigation running into early 2016 is a veiled "threat" to the Hillary campaign.

It also seems that (again, read the article) Hillary's lawyers desire to have her testify publicly, right now, is an effort to have this over and done with as soon as possible, BUT, before things can be properly investigated. i.e. "He said the committee is “now in possession of thousands of pages of documents” and expect more to be handed over by the State Department soon."These documents, as well as other documents never before produced to any committee of Congress and transcribed interviews with witnesses never before questioned by any committee of Congress, will aid the committee as it prepares to invite Secretary Clinton to appear,” Gowdy said

But Arch, how can they possible read it with their eyes closed?

Let's be clear - I'm not defending you.

No, a president can't fire federal judges. They have to be impeached. A president can fire federal attorneys. Clinton fired 93 when he took office. Bush fired 8. Clinton was cleaning out Reagan/Bush's judges, and Bush was cleaning out some of Clintons.

As for the emails, this topic really ticks me off, in so many words I can't print here. The company I work for has to keep all electronic communications for 5 years. We can be audited, fined, shut down, and probably prosecuted for not being able to provide those emails. I would like to see government workers have the same type of penalties. It costs my company a small fortune to follow the rules. I'd lose my job in a heartbeat for deleting or falsifying records.

well clearly thats the fault of the government for not implementing that kind of policy.

So don't get mad at Bush or Hilary for doing something perfectly legal.

It's almost like it's legal because they set the rules...