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Didn't think you were. Sorry to make a comment to you. They were not seeing your point all night because they are blind to facts.
Oh well, onward and upward.

I don't like Hillary, but is Benghazi the new "Obama is a radical socialist, marxist, islamic, jihadist, baby eater, lawn mower man" boogie man argument?

don't forget kenyan

The government is required by law to preserve all electronic and paper communications. Official business is supposed to be done on official equipment, not on private servers. Laws were broken.

Let's review what happened. The consulate in Benghazi is attacked on 9/11. 4 Americans die in the attack while either trying to evacuate or defend. The obama administration immediately comes out with the "video" story, which was a lie. That lie was perpetuated for months. We also got to hear testimony stating that there wasn't enough time for a rescue attempt. Did our government know how long the attack would last? Another foolish statement. Let's not forget the "what difference does it make" statement. This whole situation was botched from beginning to end. If it becomes a 'boogey man', then it's one of their own creation.

But multiple republican led senate committees found absolutely nothing wrong. This is turning into a birth certificate fiasco regardless of the "deleted emails!" smoking gun.

I'm sure the NSA has copies of these emails.

You would think Americans would know the game by now. Both parties have failed this country. It's time to try a new approach.

VVD: I'm dying to hear what this new approach might be. For the life of me, I can't imagine what it might look like or how we might get there.

Any ideas of your own?

But it's been repeatedly reviewed by people with a political interest in finding something and they decided there wasn't something.

Have you been paying attention to our current political climate at all? Every time a committee re-investigates an issue like Benghazi or the IRS, they find more information that was hidden, 'deleted', or 'lost'. The democrats have been withholding evidence for years on these issues. They have lied repeatedly during the course of the investigations, and the information that can be used as evidence keeps coming out in follow up investigations. I'll use lois lerners emails as an example. They were all lost, destroyed, and unrecoverable, and then 30,000 of them are found at a later date, just because some tech accessed a server. I wonder if you'd be as OK with this situation if the parties were reversed, because I wouldn't be.

Destroying government property is a crime. Hillary's official business emails are government property. As she was conducting personal and government business on the same server, they are all government property. Using the IRS as a weapon is a crime

Maybe we should ask Christopher Stevens what he thinks....wait, he's dead because of her. The woman should be in prison.

Agreed, if I send an email at work, that is if personal nature, it is my companies property and they can do with it whatever they please.

When I accepted the job I work at currently, they specifically said something similar to that face to face, it was outlined in my job offer and as if that wasn't enough, company wide emails reminders are sent out here in terms of using the company phone and email for personal use. No secrets or surprises you do it at your own will.

I too view her actions as criminal, but am aware noone will do anything about it or pursue anything. Just like how Louis Lerner isn't having any charges. It's all a big, fat, joke!

And that is what truly ticks me off about this whole situation. No one is going to do anything. Our government is feckless and powerless to stop the corrupt within the government, as they are all corrupt. It's time for a big change, as these people all need to go.

What about to all those times Obama's birth certificate was investigated by the lunatic fringe of the right wing? They eventually found that he truly is an American citizen.

Don't you see this whole Benghazi witch hunt is much like the birth certificate nonsense? The only reason people find outrage is that people somehow believe that Clinton let individuals willingly die. That's also like arguing the government was behind 9/11 and that it was an inside job.

Those two "issues" are completely not comparable.

Hillary has admitted she broke the law. So now she is to be left alone in her claimed innocence because the evidence SHE destroyed can't be found? That is ridiculous. Especially as more suddenly-found evidence surfaces by the day.

However, this email shell game is working in her favor as the masses focused on her emails are completely missing her total and complete incompetence as SOS and her breaking the law in regards to government property. Such a classic Clinton move.

The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation is also in the process of re-filing taxes for 3 or 4 years due to "under reporting or over reporting of donations from foreign gov't.s

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/2...N0NE0CA20150423

You might have noticed that the question of his birth location was never brought up for investigation in congress. You do realize there is a difference between an official investigation and speculation by certain individuals. Benghazi is an official investigation, because there is obviously something being hidden. As I have stated before, if obama was hiding his birth certificate, the clintons would have destroyed him.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

OK, here is a story that has been in the news in Youngstown. I wonder if people think that the accused rapist is innocent, or guilty, especially given that he threatened to burn down their house ..... and that is exactly what happened the night before the accused rapist was due to go to trial.

However, now they may have a hard time convicting him of anything, given that the girl is now dead, and there may not be enough evidence left from the fire site to connect him.

I wonder how many think that he is innocent, and how many think that he is guilty as can be, and managed to pull off the perfect crime and get away with it?

Ten-year-old girl killed in house fire, hours before trial of her accused rapist - The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morni...accused-rapist/

Authorities say a fatal house fire in Ohio claimed the life of a young girl, stalling the trial of a 45-year-old man who is accused of raping her.

Robert Seman was set to stand trial Monday, the same day an early morning blaze broke out in a Youngstown home, killing a 10-year-old girl and two of her grandparents, according to reports.

The Youngstown Vindicator‎ reported that the 10-year-old was expected to testify against Seman, who was arrested last March.

Jean McCammon, a neighbor, heard a blast about 3:40 a.m. Monday, according to the Vindicator‎, and said the flames quickly spread through the home.

“You couldn’t tell there was a house there,” she told the newspaper. “They were good people. They got along fine, and they were in no trouble with anybody. They came over here in the winter and shoveled my driveway, and, in the fall, raked the leaves.”

Capt. Brad Blackburn, chief of detectives for the local police department, told the Vindicator‎ that the fire didn’t appear to be criminal in nature or connected to the court proceedings, but authorities were investigating.

Here’s what the fatal blaze might mean for Seman’s trial, according to the newspaper:

County Prosecutor Paul J. Gains said prosecutors are trying to see if there is other evidence they can use against Seman. He said that is one of the reasons why they asked for the trial postponement. He said they are reviewing statements to see if any are exceptions to the hearsay rule and can be allowed into evidence.

He would not say if the girl made a videotaped statement to investigators, but, even if she did, he said that statement would not be allowed in court because it is not an exception to the hearsay rule.

Police also were interviewing the girl’s mother, who friends said had been missing for some time, late Monday afternoon. Police said the mother is not a suspect at this time.

The girl, a fourth-grader, was described by another acquaintance, who knew her and her grandparents, as “sweet,” the Vindicator‎ reported.

Said McCammon: “The little girl was just the light of their lives.”



Back to Benghazi, just because "some" evidence is handed over, does not mean that the incriminating evidence was. Unfortunately, we will never know, because there was such a thorough destruction of just the right pieces of evidence.

Not enough information. Was the guy out on bail at the time of the fire? Can you provide a link to the rape case? I personally think all child molesters should be killed in the most painful way, which can't be done in this country, so I am obviously biased. There just isn't enough info to make a decision.

once again, it's an official investigation, lead by the GOP, and found nothing.

all you're doing IS speculating at this point. you're no better than the person you're trying to slam for wrong doing.


once again, she's not the best, but she's the best option out of the other trash the GOP is trying to line up out there.

half the people running for the GOP can't even fix their own state, yet i'm suppose to trust them with the country?

I'll take a dynasty family, bush or clinton, before i vote for the rest of those clowns.

I wouldn't run for president if I was her. The Bosnians are still out there and their aim is getting better.

She'd just weave through those imaginary bullets with more lies.

Lol bruh, swear you act like a politician lying is some new mythical occurrence that never happens.

Reading that brought Keanu Reeves and the Matrix to mind. Soon the voters will be asked, "Do you want the Red Pill or the Blue Pill?"

Not at all. We all know it happens, but this one lies about stuff that doesn't need to be lied about. Why concoct the story about a plane spiraling into Bosnia and then running from sniper fire, when there was video evidence to the contrary? Is her self worth so low that she invents pieces of her life that never happened, or is her life just that boring? Don't you find character issues with that type of person?

i find character issues in a guy that lied to the american public to go to war with Iraq, yet that didn't stop people for voting for him again in 2004.

i find character issues in Scott walker, a guy for some reason who has so much momentum going into the campaign, even though his own state is screwed up. he couldn't even fix his own state. but that isn't stopping people for wanting to vote for him.

i find character issues in Bush, who admitted to smoking weed, but whats to crucify anybody who does it in his state. yet that isn't stopping him from running and people wanting to vote for him.

i can find character issues in EVERY. LAST. ONE of the candidates running.

it's not hard.

Bill Maher calls them "Zombie Lies" - defined as accusations or arguments that have been proven inaccurate but just won't die.

Why is this in response to me? Sometimes starting a thread is so confusing...

quick response. was talking to Erik.

Again I'm not sure why this is directed at me BUT Yes 'W' belongs in Prison; not so much for his actions as commander in chief but more so for his fraud and crashing the world's economies. If there was prison for idiots, he would be the first to go.

ZOMBIE LIE... see above.