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I figured we could keep a master list here:

Here is what I have found. Some are different.

http://www.draftace.com/draft-visit-tracker/

Cleveland Browns
WR – DeVante Parker, Louisville
WR – Ricky Collins, Texas A&M Commerce
TE – Tyler Kroft, Rutgers
TE – Cameron Clear, Texas A&M
OT – D.J. Humphries, Florida
DT – Danny Shelton, Washington
LB – Deiontrez Mount, Louisville
S – Demaryious Randall, Arizona State

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/3/16/82...-jameis-winston

OT D.J. Humphries, Florida
WR DeVante Parker, Louisville
S Damarious Randall, Arizona State
DT DeShawn Williams, Clemson
DT Grady Jarret, Clemson
CB Bryce Callahan, Rice
WR Ricky Collins, Texas A&M-Commerce


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http://walterfootball.com/ProspectMeetings/ByTeam

This is a compilation of draft prospect visits sorted by prospect. The data was acquired via Charlie Campbell (@draftcampbell) and other media sources.

SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day or campus meeting/workout.
LOC - Local visit.
PRI - Private visit.
WOR - Private Workout.
% - indicates more than one meeting at an event.
^ - has met with team at more than one event.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2015 Senior Bowl or the 2015 East-West Shrine Game


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Nelson Agholor, WR, USC (COM)
Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia (COM)
Cameron Artis-Payne, RB, Auburn (PRO)
Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma (EW%)
Brett Boyko, OT, UNLV (EW)
Bryce Callahan, CB, Rice (PRI)
Cameron Clear, TE, Texas A&M (PRO)
T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (SR)
Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn (PRO)
Justin Coleman^, CB, Tennessee (EW, INT)
La'el Collins^, OT, LSU (SR, COM)
Ricky Collins, WR, Texas A&M-Commerce (PRI)
Titus Davis, WR, Central Michigan (PRO)
Dillon Day, C, Mississippi State (EW)
Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (SR)
Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (PRO)
Garrett Grayson^, QB, Colorado State (SR, PRO)
Connor Halliday, QB, Washington State (COM)
Eli Harold, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Virginia (COM)
Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (SR)
Taylor Heinicke, QB, Old Dominion (EW)
Greg Henderson, CB, Colorado (EW)
D.J. Humphries^, OT, Florida (PRI, PRO)
Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA (COM)
Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson (WOR)
Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers (PRO)
Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State (SR)
Greg Mancz, C, Toledo (EW)
Keith Mumphery, WR, Michigan State (EW)
Nate Orchard, DE/OLB, Utah (SR)
DeVante Parker^, WR, Louisville (PRI, WOR)
Denzel Perryman, OLB/ILB, Miami (SR)
Collin Rahrig^, C, Indiana (EW, PRO)
Damarious Randall^, S, Arizona State (PRO, PRI)
Jordan Richards, S, Stanford (EW)
Edmond Robinson, OLB, Newberry (EW)
Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami (Ohio) (WOR)
Eric Rowe, CB, Utah (WOR)
Ryan Russell, DE, Purdue (EW)
Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama (EW)
Danny Shelton, DT/NT, Washington (SR)
Devin Smith^, WR, Ohio State (SR, PRO)
Preston Smith, DE, Mississippi State (PRO)
Za'Darius Smith, DE/3-4OLB, Kentucky (EW)
Damian Swann, CB, Georgia (EW)
Darren Waller, WR, Georgia Tech (EW)
DeShawn Williams, DT, Clemson (WOR)
Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota (COM)
Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State (COM)


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No Macolm Brown, none of the top edge Rushers on that list. Only top TE Maxx Williams Only Parker of the top WRs.

Most of those on the bid list look to be 3rd round or later interests.
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A lot of players I want us to stay far away from on that list... yikes.

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Who in particular are you trying to stay away from?

I'm not too concerned about the list, and really only look at the PRI/WOR to see who they might really be looking at. All the rest you don't really know what they're asking about. They could be trying to get info on teammate's, etc. I'm not concerned about who they look at now as long as they get it right during the draft.


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Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (SR)
Garrett Grayson^, QB, Colorado State (SR, PRO)
Connor Halliday, QB, Washington State (COM)
D.J. Humphries^, OT, Florida (PRI, PRO)
Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA (COM)
Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers (PRO)
Denzel Perryman, OLB/ILB, Miami (SR)
Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami (Ohio) (WOR)
Darren Waller, WR Georgia Tech

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Also, I really, really like Grady Jarrett, but I don't know that he has a position other than a 3-Tech DT. We do incorporate some three tech, though.

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I agree with you on most of those. We have plenty of undersized receivers already, and none of those QBs do anything for me. Perryman in the 1st/2nd no way, but if he slides to the third, maybe. His instincts don't seem that great to me, and I don't know about scheme fit, though I wouldn't mind an early down thumper. I prefer Collins or Flowers over Humphries, but I've always been a fan of more of the mauler type lineman. Maybe they're thinking Fowler could fall and are getting some intel.

I'm not sure about Kroft a lot depends on the medical stuff. If he lasts till the later rounds, could work. I'm not as high on Clive as you. He's a solid prospect, but I don't see any of the Tight Ends as worthy of as high a round as they're being projected.

I'm not sure what to think of Rollins, maybe they seem him as a safety/sub-nickel. Potential Whitner replacement if they go towards more of an interchangeable safety scheme. He seems a willing tackler and has some ballhawk to him.

Waller is the only one I really disagree with. We could use a big body in our receiving core and he looks like he uses his size pretty well. Has good body control and side-line awareness. Has the size to be a plus-blocker, but more of a "waller" than a drive blocker at this point. If he's there in the fourth I'd grab him. With his size/speed he'll probably get overdrafted, but I still like him as a prospect. What don't you like?


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Originally Posted By: GrimmBrown
Waller is the only one I really disagree with. We could use a big body in our receiving core and he looks like he uses his size pretty well. Has good body control and side-line awareness. Has the size to be a plus-blocker, but more of a "waller" than a drive blocker at this point. If he's there in the fourth I'd grab him. With his size/speed he'll probably get overdrafted, but I still like him as a prospect. What don't you like?
I've only seen a few Georgia Tech games and he did nothing in them. He was obviously the worst player on the field during the Shrine Game. Couldn't track the ball, wasn't getting open, he looked really, really bad. That's pretty much the extent of my exposure to him, and there was nothing for me to like there.

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Watch the Mississippi St. game on draftbreakdown and tell me what you think. That's my primary exposure.

I hate all-star games because there is not enough time to develop chemistry or work out the nuances of the playbook. A lot of it is projection with Waller, but he flashed a few times in that Miss. St. game to me. He has attributes you can't teach, and solid hands from what I've seen.


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Waller is the only one I really disagree with. We could use a big body in our receiving core and he looks like he uses his size pretty well. Has good body control and side-line awareness. Has the size to be a plus-blocker, but more of a "waller" than a drive blocker at this point. If he's there in the fourth I'd grab him. With his size/speed he'll probably get overdrafted, but I still like him as a prospect. What don't you like?
I've only seen a few Georgia Tech games and he did nothing in them. He was obviously the worst player on the field during the Shrine Game. Couldn't track the ball, wasn't getting open, he looked really, really bad. That's pretty much the extent of my exposure to him, and there was nothing for me to like there.


Cleve - I agree with you on Waller. I watched a few GT games to check him out because of his size and I left extremely disappointed in Waller.

I was, however, quite impressed by Smelter - as I am sure you've seen me post before.


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Was watching highlights of this ricky collins kid.....very intriguing


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Melvin Gordon?

There is no way that anyone outside that draft room knows what the Browns will do this year. There's just no way of knowing. Impossible. Not feasible. Grasp out of reach. You get the point...

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I actually read an article that was critical of the Browns for being hard to read during this draft period. lol Seriously this FO cant win.

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Maybe Gurley at 12 and an OL at 19 and just try and pound people into submission this year? Mourg your right nobody knows what they are doing this year which makes the draft that more exciting.

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'Garrett Grayson worked out privately for Cleveland Browns'

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By Mary Kay Cabot, Northeast Ohio Media Group on April 15, 2015 at 2:27 PM, updated April 15, 2015 at 2:52 PM

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns conducted a private workout recently with quarterback Garrett Grayson at Colorado State, a league source told Northeast Ohio Media Group.

Grayson (6-2, 213) is among a number of quarterbacks the Browns are considering in this draft, including Oregon's Marcus Mariota, who could go as high as No. 1 or No. 2 overall.

If the Browns can't trade up for Mariota, who's expected to be in great demand on April 30th, they could look to Grayson in a later round, possibly the second or third.

The Browns are searching for a winning quarterback in the event Johnny Manziel fails to live up to his first-round status.

"I think I'm up there with the best," Grayson told the Coloradoan at his Pro Day last month. "Obviously, I think everybody knows (Jameis) Winston and (Marcus) Mariota are kind of the one, two. I think as quarterbacks, or any position, you should always be fighting for the No. 1 spot at your position no matter who is out there. Me, Bryce Petty and Brett Hundley are all considered to be fighting for that (No. 3) spot, but I can guarantee you can ask those guys too, they're not fighting for the 3 they're fighting for the No. 1.

"It is up to us to make that happen, so you have to keep working. I feel very happy. I've watched all those guys throw and compete, and there is not a doubt in my mind that I can compete with those guys."

Grayson was unable to work out at the NFL combine because of a pulled hamstring, but performed well at his pro day. He completed 70-of-74 attempts and ran a 4.72 and 4.76 in the 40. For comparison's sake, Mariota finished first among quarterbacks with a 4.52.

"(I'm ) a guy that can come in right away, work his butt off, is never going to give up,'' Grayson said at the combine. "I love to lead by example, doing the right thing. Again I haven't been the most vocal guy. That's something I had to learn from Coach (Jim McElwain). ...as cliché as it sounds 'first guy in, last guy to leave,' try to be that guy for my team.''

As a senior last year, Grayson set single-season passing records for Colorado State and the Mountain West Conference with 4,006 yards and 32 touchdowns. During his four-year career -- including the last two as a full-time starter -- he set school records with 9,190 yards, 64 TDs and a 145.3 rating.

Dan Brugler of nfldraftscout.com writes of Grayson in his draft guide, "After a slow start to his career in Fort Collins, Grayson was able to reinvent himself the past two seasons and is now a viable NFL prospect with experience in a pro-style scheme. He appeared to lose his poise after his broken collarbone in 2012 and was forced to rebuild his confidence and focus on his mechanics, finishing with a combined 55:18 TD:INT ratio as a junior and senior for the Rams.

"Grayson finds ways to complete passes downfield, despite taking a lot of careless chances and making low percentage throws into tight coverages. He doesn't look like much with questionable durability and average-at-best physical tools for the position, but Grayson plays confident and poised with the mental traits that coaches will want to develop at the next level - projects best as a reliable NFL back-up who could be a spot-starter if needed.''

NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah has Grayson ranked as the draft's third best quarterback behind Winston and Mariota.

"He has poise and sees the field," Jeremiah tweeted. "Can't say that about many of the other contestants for the third spot. Something to build on."

As of early in the week, the Browns had not yet set up a private workout with Mariota, but their quarterbacks coach, Kevin O'Connell, spent more than six weeks preparing him for the NFL combine, so another private session might not be necessary.

The Browns are also continuing to host players in Berea for their 30 pre-draft visits. Prospects in this week include Wisconsin running back Melvin Gordon, Georgia running back Todd Gurley and Arizona State receiver Jaelen Strong.

The Browns also hosted local players on Wednesday, including Westlake's Jake Ryan, the linebacker from Michigan who's projected as a mid-round pick.



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Bringing in Gurley and Gordon has to be a smoke screen.

Right? superconfused

Runningback is probably the last thing we need on offense. I cannot see a justifiable scenario where we pass on a DT/DE, OLB, WR or even TE to instead pick a runningback....



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Originally Posted By: MrKelso
Bringing in Gurley and Gordon has to be a smoke screen.

Right? superconfused

Runningback is probably the last thing we need on offense. I cannot see a justifiable scenario where we pass on a DT/DE, OLB, WR or even TE to instead pick a runningback....


I gotta say, the Melvin workout has me puzzled beyond. Just why? Crow had some fumble issues and West did a lil too much horizontal dancing, but became more North n South towards the end. I like our "baby backs" and just cannot conclude why we'd be interested in a rb. Our current backs, IMO, haven't reached their peak.

We burn a first pick on a back, I just don't know how I'll digest that. Probably take a few weeks off from talking n thinking about our Browns.

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making our board and there is only one position that will not be on the board...when our pick comes and there is a player ahead of all others on our board...we will take him...oh the one position - Left Tackle.

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We burn a first pick on a back, I just don't know how I'll digest that. Probably take a few weeks off from talking n thinking about our Browns.


+1

I'd want to not think about the Browns for a few weeks, but I'd probably just run to this board and complain about it for a few hours.

Picking a RB at 12 and even at 19 would cause the rest of the NFL to start laughing. We need DT, DE/OLB, OL, WR, TE and a QB. NOT a RB.


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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
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Bringing in Gurley and Gordon has to be a smoke screen.

Right? superconfused

Runningback is probably the last thing we need on offense. I cannot see a justifiable scenario where we pass on a DT/DE, OLB, WR or even TE to instead pick a runningback....


I gotta say, the Melvin workout has me puzzled beyond. Just why? Crow had some fumble issues and West did a lil too much horizontal dancing, but became more North n South towards the end. I like our "baby backs" and just cannot conclude why we'd be interested in a rb. Our current backs, IMO, haven't reached their peak.

We burn a first pick on a back, I just don't know how I'll digest that. Probably take a few weeks off from talking n thinking about our Browns.


Since teams get 30 visits and can't possibly draft every one they work out I believe some of these visits are aimed specifically at getting a close-up look at them as info to put on file.

By having them in the team gets to meet them in person, learn about their personality, learn some of their strengths and weaknesses and so on.

Maybe next year or the next or the next we'll have a need and already have some knowledge of these players which will help in FA or trades, etc.

Something was posted on here that only about 6% of the players teams have in for visits do they actually draft. So why so many visits? For information on them to be considered in the future.

That's what I think anyway.


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"Grayson finds ways to complete passes downfield, despite taking a lot of careless chances and making low percentage throws into tight coverages. He doesn't look like much with questionable durability and average-at-best physical tools for the position, but Grayson plays confident and poised with the mental traits that coaches will want to develop at the next level - projects best as a reliable NFL back-up who could be a spot-starter if needed.''

No, thank you very much. I'll pass on that one.


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Originally Posted By: jeepnstein
"Grayson finds ways to complete passes downfield, despite taking a lot of careless chances and making low percentage throws into tight coverages. He doesn't look like much with questionable durability and average-at-best physical tools for the position, but Grayson plays confident and poised with the mental traits that coaches will want to develop at the next level - projects best as a reliable NFL back-up who could be a spot-starter if needed.''

No, thank you very much. I'll pass on that one.


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Originally Posted By: MrKelso
Bringing in Gurley and Gordon has to be a smoke screen.

Right? superconfused

Runningback is probably the last thing we need on offense. I cannot see a justifiable scenario where we pass on a DT/DE, OLB, WR or even TE to instead pick a runningback....

What makes you say that? Both RBs spent time in Pettine's doghouse. Besides if West or Crowell get hurt, high probability at this position, can you depend on either carrying the load? Lastly, Browns want to be a run team. Why not have 3 good running backs?

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we need people to block catch and stop the run. running the ball with new players is probably 18 on a list of 22.


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we need people to block catch and stop the run. running the ball with new players is probably 18 on a list of 22.


I'm not going to disagree with that, however don't rule out the possibility of Adrian Peterson being traded here. This was discussed on Sirius NFL Radio today. It would be costly involving draft picks...


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we need people to block catch and stop the run. running the ball with new players is probably 18 on a list of 22.


I'm not going to disagree with that, however don't rule out the possibility of Adrian Peterson being traded here. This was discussed on Sirius NFL Radio today. It would be costly involving draft picks...


so, because no one in the world knows what we or Trader Farmer are doing.. they are throwing out wild speculation.

this one is pretty far out there.


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we need people to block catch and stop the run. running the ball with new players is probably 18 on a list of 22.


I'm not going to disagree with that, however don't rule out the possibility of Adrian Peterson being traded here. This was discussed on Sirius NFL Radio today. It would be costly involving draft picks...


so, because no one in the world knows what we or Trader Farmer are doing.. they are throwing out wild speculation.

this one is pretty far out there.


Oh, it certainly is. And not a trade I'm in favor of, however never say never...


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Gurley, if it wasn't for the ACL tear, likely a top ten pick. Gurley maybe as good as AP coming out of college. If Browns have a chance, it makes sense taking him at #12.

Browns let Gurley nurse his knee this year letting it fully heal. Can you imagine what Browns run game would be like with Gurley, Crowell, and West? Think Seattle with Marshawn Lynch behind Cleveland's offensive line then add two more backs.

I get there are other holes. You must consider the possibility another AFCN team drafting Gurley too.

I think majority of teams have leaned more toward stopping the pass. A strong run game could be the ticket. Seattle, Dallas, and Philly are sporting the run game with success.

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If Browns have a chance, it makes sense taking him at #12


It makes no sense. Our run game can be lethal with those already on our roster. Running back is, JMO, a position I don't think my needs addressed at all this season.

Let Crow, West and these Draugn and Winston people battle it out. We are taking leaps backwards in my book if we draft a rb, we are taking planet distance leaps if we draft one in the first round. Just yikes.

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If Browns have a chance, it makes sense taking him at #12


It makes no sense. Our run game can be lethal with those already on our roster. Running back is, JMO, a position I don't think my needs addressed at all this season.

Let Crow, West and these Draugn and Winston people battle it out. We are taking leaps backwards in my book if we draft a rb, we are taking planet distance leaps if we draft one in the first round. Just yikes.

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Our run game can be lethal? Where did we rank last year? What are your bases? Where do the Browns stand if West or Crow is injured? Are you not taking a huge leap of faith?

If he is AP like, what are your thoughts Baltimore or Pittsburgh draft Gurley? Browns defense biggest weakness last year was what?

Lastly, what has Farmer/Pettine said they like the focus of this offense to be? Having an AP like back be the main guy in a run offense, to me, makes a lot of sense.

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Our run game was just fine and will be fine again once Mack is back in the trenches. Clear as day Mack was the anchor lost which caused the ship to start taking on water.

Do we need another Trent Richardson? We will get no bailout this time if we draft a top rb and they come in and underperform. If West and Crow get injured, we can see all this up talk from the staff on this Winston kid. We don't even know who or what we have there. We could just sign someone on the cheap. I think our oline will resume zone blocking which was working great pre Mack injury and it won't require elite backs to produce in.

We need to stop the run anyway, until we do that most rbs going to burn us whether they're elite or not, so does it really help us by taking him so Baltimore or Pitt can't? No.

If we want to focus on the run, which yes I agree I too think that will be what our offense is built on, then sharing the load between two good young backs is a line for more success than putting the load on one guy and hoping it works out. IMO, a d tackle, WR or o-linemen would help the success of this team far more than another running back.

JMO, we just don't see the same value in that position bugs. Nothing wrong with varying opinions!!

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I understand positional value and draft value. With that said, yeah, I'd take Gurley in the 1st round and never look back. A lot of good teams use a 3 RB system, and Gurley would be our battering ram.

That being said, I think Shelton is a better prospect.


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Our run game was just fine and will be fine again once Mack is back in the trenches. Clear as day Mack was the anchor lost which caused the ship to start taking on water.

Do we need another Trent Richardson? We will get no bailout this time if we draft a top rb and they come in and underperform. If West and Crow get injured, we can see all this up talk from the staff on this Winston kid. We don't even know who or what we have there. We could just sign someone on the cheap. I think our oline will resume zone blocking which was working great pre Mack injury and it won't require elite backs to produce in.

We need to stop the run anyway, until we do that most rbs going to burn us whether they're elite or not, so does it really help us by taking him so Baltimore or Pitt can't? No.

If we want to focus on the run, which yes I agree I too think that will be what our offense is built on, then sharing the load between two good young backs is a line for more success than putting the load on one guy and hoping it works out. IMO, a d tackle, WR or o-linemen would help the success of this team far more than another running back.

JMO, we just don't see the same value in that position bugs. Nothing wrong with varying opinions!!


Dawg, I have no problem with difference of opinions. I read a couple of articles recently with good arguments in favor of Gurley. After hearing Farmer had Gurley in for a visit, I see a real possibility. To me anyway, it doesn't seem so far out there.

Just because a RB is drafted in the first round he doesn't instantly become a Trent Richardson. If you recall, AP was labeled damaged goods when drafted.

Run game was fine when Mack played. You do recall they had Ben Tate too. Not saying Ben had a lot to do with the success. As veteran, I do think he helped. Both Crowell and West showed good and bad last year. You hope the good carries more weight this year.

If my offense is geared around running backs and I have a chance to upgrade a key element, I'm doing it. Gurley has potential being the next AP. I understand your thinking if he simply is just highest ranked this year like Trent Richardson.

Sticking with the theme Gurley is the next AP and I bypass Gurley for Shelton. Can Shelton be my answer for Gurley if Ravens draft him? When Cleveland decided to take JT over AP, Joe had potential of being league leader. Shelton is not shown in the same light. In order to make the playoffs each year, can I stop Baltimore's offense. IMO, I think it is very important not stacking the deck against even more.

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Gurley isn't the next AP.

Gurley is the next Marshawn Lynch, though.


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I see him as the next McGahee...jmho


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