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The draft is a week from tmr. This here is your chance to tell me what YOU want to do.. NOT what you think Farmer and the Browns will do. Please keep that distinction in mind..

Frankly, I think Winston and Mariota are character risks and/or being overvalued and I want no part of trading away our 2 first round picks to get either.

While I recognize that our starting Dline spent significant time in the hospital ward and we played backups hence our dismal rush defense stats.. I think we are better than the stats.. however on the other hand.. Rubin is gone and I still think we can / NEED to improve rush defense and thats my main priority.. therefore I want the Browns first pick / priority to be stopping the run.. along with this is the need to develop a better pass rush than just sending in Kruger. This is what I wanna do with 12 pick. I'm not sure who fits the bill the best.. possibly Shelton.

At 19 I want to beef up Oline. I will tell you this tho.. IF Sherff falls to 12.. then I take him and not question the pick. I assume he'll be long gone and I'm OK with taking Collins here.

Second round I want to target WR

Third round.. QB. And I'd be okay with Petty.

Fire away.. what do you want?

12 - Nelson Agholor
19 - La'el Collins
43 - Shaq Thompson
77 - Tyeler Davison
111 - Jalston Fowler
115 - Duke Johnson
147 - Jeff Heuerman
189 - Ty Montgomery
202 - George Farmer
229 - Ellis McCarthy

I'd like to get a QB earlier, but I think Petty and Grayson will be gone between 43 and 77.

12 - Danny Shelton, NT
19 - Arik Armstead, DE
43 - Nelson Agholor, WR
77 - Donovan Smith, RT
111 - Ben Koyack, TE/H-Back
115 - Ibraheim Campbell, SS
147 - Shaquille Mason, C/G
189 - Geneo Grissom, OLB
202 - Brandon Bridge, QB
229 - Justin Manton, K

We need to stop the run. I think 2 of the top 3 picks should be DT and ILB. Which picked where depends on how the draft is flowing, who's available. As for the 3rd, could be OT, WR, DE/OLB. Again, who's available.

We need a run stopper with our first pick. Danny Shelton or Malcomb Brown depending on if Shelton is still available at 12.

At #19, I would go with Cameron Erving. The kid has played DT, was an All-American OT and is now a Center. Talk about versatile. He can play anywhere in the trenches and can be groomed for any eventuality. A steal at 19. If Erving is gone, I would look to ILB Eric Hendricks or OLB Eli Harold

At #43, I would go WR. One of these 3, Devin Smith, Devin Funchess or Nelson Agholor should be available.

At # 77, I would take QB Bryce Petty.

From this point.. I would try to package picks # 111 and # 147 to move back into the 3rd round to take OLB Jordon Hicks, Hauoli Kikaha or Zach Hodges, depending on who is available.

At #115, TE Jeff Heuerman.

Numbers 189/202/229 would be packaged to move back into 4th round to get Safety Adrian Amos.

I forgot to mention a replacement for Cundiff would please me to no end.

Does Garrett Hartley count... I hope not. Then again...it does not appear to be a good year to target a kicker (draft).

I do not want to sell the farm to get Mariota ... I'd prefer us to somehow trade with Philly for Bradford (if we have our heart set on obtaining a QB in the early part of the draft)

However, if given MY choice .. I'd want to select two guys for the front 7 with picks 12 and 19. DT/DE/OLB, it doesn't matter. Just grab the two best.

and then take a WR somewhere in rounds 2/3 .. it's another VERY deep WR class

Barring a trade up for Mariota (which I'm not opposed to, nor crazy in favor of), I'd take Shelton at 12, Agholor at 19, Tevin Coleman, RB, at 43. In the 3rd, I pick the best ILB/thumper OR edge pass rusher available. Later, I want them to get the rotund & robust FB from Alabama. I'd also like a PK, but that can probably come from the UDFAs.

Hopefully, with this draft we would improve the run defense, add some quick strike ability to the ow-fense (playmakers!), add threats to the punt and kickoff return teams, and generate more of a pass rush.

12 DeVante Parker
19 Malcom Brown

Since it's unlikely that they stay at 12 and 19, I'll just make of list of players I want:

12 pick/trade up pick
Marcus Mariota
Danny Shelton
DeVante Parker
Kevin White
Amari Cooper
Todd Gurley

19 area
Nelson Agholor
Melvin Gordon
Ereck Flowers
Eric Kendricks
Shane Ray
Cameron Erving, although I wouldn't love it, I'd understand
Randy Gregory

43
Devin Smith
Clive Walford
Garrett Grayson
Bryce Petty
Eli Harold
Hau'oli Kikaha
Carl Davis
Grady Jarrett

Pastor, would you trade down on 12? I favor getting folks on our picks, but is our first pick one you would play with?

12. Alvin "Bud" Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky
19. Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami
43. Carl Davis, DL, Iowa
77. Jesse James, TE, Penn St
111. Shaq Mason, G/C, Georgia Tech
115. Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama
147. Cedric Thomspon, S, Minnesota
189. Darren Waller, WR, Georgia Tech
202. Jeff Luc, ILB, Cincinnati
229. John "Taz" Crockett, RB, NDSU

UFA's
Terry Williams, NT, ECU
Evan Spencer, WR, Ohio St
Austin Dodge, QB, Southern Oregon
Bryce Callahan, CB, Rice

Not sure who I want, but I just want to stay put at 12 and 19. DT and OL will be fine with me. If one of the top receivers falls to 12 I wouldn't mind that either.

I will be livid if we trade the picks for Mariota.

I think we should keep 12 and pick the best player on our board ...

Yes, there more than a few ways to slice the pie in terms of two first rounders that people would be happy over. OL, DL, OLB, WR are in a lot of people's draft. I'd be happy with any combo of that position list.

The one iffy I am picking up on is yay or nay on Mariota. Me personally, if he's there at 12 or 19, consider him. If not, let another team dispose of their draft picks and etc to move up. I want nada to do with a trade for any qb this draft.

All JMO

First off I really am not a fan of this draft and if we used all of our picks to come out with 3 or 4 quality players, I would be in favor of it. I am also not as worried about the DL as most, I add Danny Shelton because I like his talent but I dont see it as a major need but more of get the guys we have healthy.

I am looking to come out of this draft with
12 I want Devante Paarker if he is gone I go shelton.
19. Shelton its a no brainer he is gone I go Maxx Williams

2nd round, TE Maxx Williams still there he is my pick. If not I add Tre Jackson OG FSU. Monster RG that plays with a violent streak.

3rd OT Penn St Donovan Smith Powerful nasty RG that is going to improve.

Jackson and Smith wont beat out Grecco and Schwartz easily but we now have depth.

I use my 4th and a 5th to get back into the 3rd and get my fullback. I dont risk him being there in the 4th. I want Fowler from bama.

I do want to add a big hitting inside backer in the later rounds and Taiwan Jones Michigan St I think is someone that we can basically redshirt and coach up.

After that trade the pics for next year but I am coming out of the first with my receiver.

I just want us to NOT sell the farm to try to move up for a QB. We need our future firsts....if we package a future first to move up, I'll freaking lose it.

Ideally, I'd like to see one of the "big three" WRs at 12. If none are there, best player on our board or look for an opportunity to move down and accumulate 2nd or 3rd round picks or picks next year. IMO, there's not much of a gap between talent available mid-first and mid-second this year.

At 19, I'd probably look to go Dline as there's some good DT prospects out there and I believe that we're entering a contract year for Phil Taylor.

Only trade down from 12 if someone is offering their 1st and a 1st next year. Take the best available player at 12 regardless of position.

At 19 I'd be willing to move down a few spots for a 3rd, or more for a 2nd. Take the best available player at 19.

Take the best available player in the 2nd round..

In the 3rd I might consider QB if Petty is there an certain other players aren't.

After that I grab depth at other positions, and positions I haven't picked so far.

In the 5th I grab The Giant Fullback From Alabama™.

I also go after a kicker.

If he falls to us, I'm OK with taking him but if a team offers us a lot of picks I'd go with that. I am not impressed with him at all.

I'm with Mourgrym on this one ( so, so draft ) , Come out with four (4) competitive players and I would be happy .. Best DL and, or WR followed by pass rusher and up grade or back up on the OL .. Get as many and as high draft picks for next year ..

Didn't we cut him late last year?

How bout that.. I just checked the roster at the Browns site Cundiff's not on there, well shoot do we need a kicker?

I believe we put Cundiff on IR when we picked up Hartley.

Hmm.. official site doesn't have IR listed. Ok.. here's what wiki says: After sustaining a knee injury on December 11, 2014, Cundiff was subsequently released on December 13, 2014, with an injury settlement.[

Come up with a new slogan after the draft to sell to the public to replace the wearing-thin "play like a Brown" talk that is no longer pacifying the masses. Start damage control before the fact.

12. Best run stopper - Shelton or Brown
19. Trade to Philadelphia for Sam Bradford.
43. Best WR available.

Round 1 Pick 12: DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville, #1 vertical threat.
Round 1 Pick 19: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas versatile run stopper
Round 2 Pick 11: Carl Davis, DT/DE, Iowa as talented as any NT prospect
Round 3 Pick 6 (NYJ): Paul Dawson, OLB/ILB, TCU, a defensive star
Round 4 Pick 16: Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State, solid FS depth
Round 5 Pick 11: Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers, not my #1 TE but supposedly very athletic
Round 6 Pick 13: Kyle Emanuel, OLB, North Dakota State developmental pass rusher can play on 3rd down now.
Round 6 Pick 26: Greg Mancz, C, Toledo, Goooo RRRRockets! Solid C/OG
Round 7 Pick 12: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) let him learn SS behind Whitner

I can always want what I want, don't have to stay true to form. Maybe it's not the year to take any wide receiver. Maybe an all defensive draft is the best value. Maybe a bunch of picks that would have you all throwing fits are who I think would pan out over the long term.

One things for sure, I don't want an (expletative) corner in the first.

Sherrf ain't got any chance to be there at 12, neither La'el. And I believe, I'm pretty sure anyway, that Wr, and Ol are the two spots on the roster where you just can't find teams giving you anything worth while in free agency.

You can't get WR or Ol in free agency, not good ones, not even interior Ol. And For That, With That Reason, I'm going to go in a COMPLETLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

Cause why follow logic, it's the freakin NFL Draft.

Every pre-draft season my intuition wants on some front 7 superstars for a couple of days, then I change my mind again and crybaby out for my Browns not taking wide receivers.

And I'm not going to say take the players who just aren't going to be there, (not going to say Jameis Winston, at 12, and Amari cooper at 19)

It doesn't matter, if you look at the Browns roster, who I give ya, you Front 7 freaks, ( see Jesus freak) I say it with love, are not going to be satisfied and are going to want front 7 in next years draft too, .. but you say you want 3 or 4 players who can hang around for the long term.

( Hey this one is as relevant as when I said a couple years ago, " so nobody wants to put the Browns on Sunday, or Monday night, so they all stink anyway, they might as well draft honey badger, Tim Tebow, or Manziel, and that Linebacker in the news for his fake girlfriend out of ND.") So they'll at least have media stories.)

Stay at 12 and 19. At 12, Take Randy Gregory, De, Nebraska, why

Cause everyone knows you won't because he's a suspension risk like Gordon, and the Bengals won't have picked yet so he's not going to be gone to them, Bengals won't trade up for him, so he'll be there. This guy isn't a nose tackle but he's going to give you a dynamic threat. A defense that can morph into various types.

At 19 take Eli Harold, linebacker, Virginia. Why,
Ohh that one would be laughed at, too early to pick a good player who can fit in somewhere between Krueger, Kirksey, and whomever, a dynamic linebacker that allows your front 7 to morph into various types to fit the situation.

At 43 take Michael Bennett nosetackle Ohio State, Why

I hope he'll be there, he's not hyped but he's kind of an athlete in the interior, and to me, If you take Taylor, Kitchen, -blank- and John Hughes' and Starks,
He fits right in the mix, between heavy slow athlete, and skinny light in the pants fast athlete, on the defensive line.

Take a look at the Browns roster, add those 3, and your front 7 is now a dynamic, changeable, force, that can morph into various types to fit the situation with the personel. and all 3 of those guys, just might be around for a second contract.

Sammie Coates, I think, why not. I don't know a lot about him, but does he remind me of Slaughter, kind of an under the radar but dependable, tuff, and slightly underrated field strechability WR that can cause matchup problems and hang around for 7-10 years.

He won't be there in the 3rd round, but I just like the thought of that pick, if he ends up a Brown.

I don't claim to know much, anything, just a stupid fan, then in the past, when the season starts, and players I liked are doing dynamic things and I tell myself, " dogonnit, I should have been more adamant, I knew these guys were going to be decent, why didn't they listen to me"
Sometimes that's how it goes, sometimes.

My board trying to be realistic who will be there.....

12. Shelton
Dupree
Trade down
Gurley
Brown

19. Gurley
Brown
Flowers
Trade down
Gordon
43. Perryman (ILB)
Jackson

I see the following needs.

WR
QB
TE
DL
DE

So those are the first five players that I would like to be picked. Note: I do not have an OL player in the mix, because I view this as an improvement to position where a serviceable starter is in the mix, and the Browns.

The Browns have been terrible on the DL and DE positions, giving away far too many yards and not creating enough sacks.

The next group.

FB
KR
PR
K.

So that is 9 players.

Following that, well there is one spot left over.

Just a question:

If the team takes a DL at 12, and decides that they want a WR at 19, and the top 3 are gone, would it not make sense to trade down at that point? (if possible)

Take Agholor and celebrate.

I like Agholor but he is a 2nd rounder, just drops a few to many passes to go in the first.

Well I'm no draftnik but, I think we have enough needs that I'm not going to complain if we take whatever position with these first three picks. Wr, ol, dl, lb I don't care. Just as long as we FINALLY start to hit on these early round picks. Give me contributors for the next 10 years and I don't care what the name on the shirt says!
Annoys me no end to see year after year, regime after regime get out drafted by some of the folks on this board. We simply have to start doing better.

#19 is going to be interesting.. If Gregory is still there..

I'm not sure I want him..

But teams in the latter half, that didn't think they had a shot at him might now..

Good trade down spot..