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For flooring I could definitely get you a deal. Not so much on furniture. If you dont mind my asking, did you buy a builder new house? If so there is a good chance we did your floors. We have nearly all Toll in Jersey, Centex, Pulte, Calton, Larken, Hovnanian and many of the smaller local builders also.

Sorry, I clicked the wrong post. Don't go nuts over it, geeze.

The problem with Cleveland is the actual downtown area. After moving to Milwaukee last year, I could really see the difference (even living in Columbus before that). Milwaukee, to me, seems a lot smaller in total area, but the amount of people that actually live downtown is really cool. They are building about 10-15 new condo buildings all along the river and a lot of empty nesters or 20-30 somethings live down there and love the city life aspect of cafes, boutiques, culture, and nightlife. Not to mention the wide variety of dinnig options.

I'm not sure of the reasons why Cleveland can't be that way. My only guess is that besides the warehouse district (2-3 1/4 miles stretches) and the Euclid Corridor, there is really nothing to do. To me, the Flats project is a good start. IF they do it right, that could be the first building block.

I agree with 'Peen, the first thing you need to do is get the homeless and needy out of public square. Sounds mean, I know, but if Cleveland is serious about trying to create an environment where people come as tourists or to live downtown, you don't want one of your main attractions overrun by "seedy" looking people. Having gone to school in Cleveland and taking the bus home from Public Square, I know most of them are harmless, but as Andre Agassi would say, image is everything.

I came home for a wedding last month and we drove by Public Square and I totally forgot what a mess it was. It was somewhat embarrasing when you compare that to other cities. Here in Milwaukee, the main living quarters and shopping areas are all clean with major renevations to the sidewalks, building fronts, and is almost like a little New York or Chicago.

You would think with the Cleveland Clinic, Key Tower, BP Building, Terminal Tower, and other large buildings that employ thousands, a lot of who are younger, the seeds are there. The city needs to make it a focus and invest the dollars to make it happen. Once they do that, the taxes will come through property taxes and spending downtown.

Just my two cents...

We actually got a condo. The guy who lived there replaced the floors not too long ago. Maybe in the future tho!

Just clicking...

This question is kind of off topic - I know Cleveland can't build casinos until it's approved by the state and rural Ohio will never let that happen. So my question is, why can't the city decide if it wants to allow gambling? It seems like more of a local issue that a state issue to me.

Simple... state law forbidding casino gambling trumps any local law to the contrary. Ultimately, the state could decide to change the law to leave the question to local communities, but Ohio is a pretty conservative state outside the inner cities. I would be surprised if it happened any time soon.

Not only is it a state law, it is probably written into the state constitution, which makes it even harder to change.

Even fairly liberal lawmakers are slow to start talking about changing state constitution/charters.

They like their lottery being the only game in town.