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When did I call you a liar? If I did I should have used better communication.

But thank you for all your insults to my intelligence wink

What a guy... Ignoring might be the immature thing to do.

I didn't read any facts that disproved my opinion actually on more than one occasion I have read somebodies facts and stated that I was incorrect - I'm pretty sure Pitdawg gave me one and I think somebody else it might have been you for all I know.

But you came right out and insulted me. I've tried to disagree with your extremism without insulting you. But its been pretty bad. Maybe I did call you a LIAR??? I could think at least 5 or more times where I thought it.

But I haven't seen a body of facts that have collaborated any of these Witch hunts on Haslam, Farmer nor Pettine.

jmho Again, if you wish to be miserable about being a Browns fan...go right ahead but don't give me crap if I choose not to.


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I like some things that Farmer has done.
I like some things that Banner did.
I liked some things that Heckert did.
I liked some things that Savage did.

...and I saw them all make mistakes and miscalculations, as well. ALL of them.


I would absolutely agree with this. I would also add that my feelings towards different regimes followed an ebb and flow, depending on how the team did based on their moves, and how the players they acquired did for us.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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I like some things that Farmer has done.
I like some things that Banner did.
I liked some things that Heckert did.
I liked some things that Savage did.

...and I saw them all make mistakes and miscalculations, as well. ALL of them.


I would absolutely agree with this. I would also add that my feelings towards different regimes followed an ebb and flow, depending on how the team did based on their moves, and how the players they acquired did for us.


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I refuse to take espn hyperbole as gospel until I see timestamps


Unless it was a report that supported Farmer. willynilly

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So Banner had little or nothing to do with it? We all know that's likely not the case.


YT...thank you..I was just about to post a similar question to Vers..

Vers...do you think Banner did anything to get himself fired?



Yes, I do:

--He hired Lombardi who was hated by the fans and the media.

--He balked when Haslam wanted to hire Schiano.

--He conducted a study on Manziel as Haslam instructed and determined that Manziel wasn't worthy of us picking him in round one.

--He was despised by most of the fans and media. Marketing is more important to Haslam than wins. That is evident and Banner [like Belichick when he was here] was too honest and cared more about building a winner than appeasing an ignorant fan and media base.

So yeah, he did do things that caused his firing.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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I refuse to take espn hyperbole as gospel until I see timestamps


Unless it was a report that supported Farmer. willynilly


The catfight smilie catfight drops off in the quote, so it's easy to miss the mood I wrote that in.

I wonder if the texts will ever get released. Years and years from now if ever most likely when we can all look back at this and laugh.


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Just saying ......

He also did the things in the article I posted ...... and those were evidently significant enough to help him out of his position with the Browns.

The Browns, and Haslam, did not just fire him for absolutely no reason.


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Banner was alright by me he ditched Richardson and got some of our money back while the fans went absolutely wild (yeah you).

It turns out he and I were right about that bum.

Lest see a show of hands who was pissed when the Richardson trade went down?


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Banner was alright by me he ditched Richardson and got some of our money back while the fans went absolutely wild (yeah you).

It turns out he and I were right about that bum.

Lest see a show of hands who was pissed when the Richardson trade went down?


I have to admit, when we drafted him I was happy, when we ditched him I wasn't happy at all. In fact, I was pretty ticked off at first.

But then, I thought about it and decided, OK, let's let it play out. Wow, that was maybe the best move Banner ever pulled off. He swindled the Colts bigtime. Boy was I wrong about that move.


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