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Whatcha think?.... take a chance?.....
The Dolphins have cleared out Ricky Williams' locker.
The locker was given to Lorenzo Booker. Miami has yet to make an official decision about Ricky's future, but it doesn't appear that he's in the plans.
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He did awful last year....he's done. Maybe depth, but signing him is so risky.
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There are a lot of teams I think it would be worth it for them to sign him. We are not one. Worst thing that happens is they cut him. It's not like he is going to make more than the NFL minimum.
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As long as the contract was written in the best interest of the Browns, why not? If he doesn't have his head in the clouds, he is a starting RB. Wouldn't it be nice to have 2 starting RB's battling to stay in Cleveland?
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Who knows, maybe the Pats think they can revive his career too and sign him.. 
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Don't think it's worth the mental cost to the overall effort we're starting to develop here.
No thanks, but thanks for the post/info.
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let him compete w/ Rueben Droughns in New York... lol
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No, he had to play in the CFL and fractured his arm, that doesn't constitute him doing horrible.
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Too much talent, even if he is a mental case, he'll land somewhere by the end of training camp if the Dolphins let him walk. Dallas, Green Bay, Oakland, Tennessee, I mean there are plenty of places that he could end up even if it is for the minimum.
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I'd give him a shot.
...just might be the answer at the RB position for a while.
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I'm not sure if he'd want to come here, but if he could be had for the veteran minimum, sure, why not take the chance? I wouldn't want him for any more than that, however.
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Yeah he did really awful last season,, Didn't play in the NFL, went to the CFL, Broke his arm after a few attempts then missed the rest of the season...
Geez,, that's not the reason NOT to bring him in here,. We just don't need another stoner at RB.....
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I wouldn't even entertain it, and I don't think Savage and Co. will either. I like what I'm seeing from the FO, and it's beginning to get easier to get a read on their thoughts and actions.
Williams doesn't fit into any of our plans at this stage as far as I can tell. I doubt the FO spends more than a 5 minute discussion - if any at all - on any part of an idea to bring him here.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Who knows, maybe the Pats think they can revive his career too and sign him..
Yep - Let the Patriots sign him. It seems like the right place for him these days.
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Green Bay would be a place where Ricky might play right off.
Seems like a nice fit for him. Very well could happen!
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Why not sign him to a very incentive laden contract.
Guarantee little, but give him incentives if he gets a certain amount of yards/tds/recs.
maybe itd motivate him. He's a good player, and would compliment Lewis very well.
Since his reinstatement before his most recent drug suspension (which wasnt for pot) he's done everything the right way.
Id give him a long hard look
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I'd give him a look...
...if this happened 1-2 years down the road.
I never had a problem with Williams, but the league (and lots of fans) did- and do. For that reason alone, I'd say no to him now, if I was Cleve's GM.
We aren't experienced enough, veteran enough, or established enough to take the risk... no matter what potential benefit he might bring. Maybe on a more settled team "the new Ricky" could slide in and assimilate. That ain't us, people.
As it is, we have a busload of unanswered questions at key spots... the last thing we need at this point is to add in a potential wild hare like Ricky Williams. Better to see how all your oustanding bets work out before adding another (potentially big) lottery ticket to the roster.
If we were "one player away" from a strong Super Bowl run, and Ricky Williams fit the bill, I might take a chance on him. Since we aren't that team, and Ricky's available now, I'll say "pass."
Talented back... but you risk paying out the *** in other ways, for the privilege of having him on your roster.
We're too young and unstable to take that risk.
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Maybe he should just quote on of the threads you start 
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Give him a physical and psych exam..test him for cannabis.
Sign him to a UFA contract and let him compete.
It would take the focus off of Quinn/Frye for awhile!
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Yeah he did really awful last season,, Didn't play in the NFL, went to the CFL, Broke his arm after a few attempts then missed the rest of the season...
Geez,, that's not the reason NOT to bring him in here,. We just don't need another stoner at RB.....
Glad to see at least someone knows the facts  but I have to ask: "How do you reject Ricky for character/drug issues when our starting RB served prison time for cocaine dealing?"
Seems like a guy that used to smoke some pot and has passed all his drug tests for 22-months (or something liek that) is a lesser offender.
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His career's over.
agreed i dont want a crack head on this team
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In all fairness, Williams has never been busted for crack. And as far as the pot is concerned, where did all you holier than thou come from? How many wouldn't want to "see" Williams on our team, but would spend good money to see Willie Nelson?
Entertainment is entertainment.
And before everyone goes off on me, I'm not endorsing Williams to join us, just exploring the possibility.
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No thanks. We don't need the 3-4 weeks of bad press that follows him around before the season starts. And then the constant, "what did Ricky do in today's game?" segment on Sportscenter each week. Ugh, not worth the trouble.
Heck, I don't think his talent is even worth a roster spot either. He's turning 30 in two weeks, he's played 12 NFL games in the past three seasons, he couldn't stay healthy in the CFL and he'll probably get busted for pot within the year. Why am I still talking about this guy?...forget it
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As many on here know, my best bud in the world is the guy I watch football with every Sunday (He throws for direct TV and the NFL Ticket *L*) and we watch the Browns and Dolphins games side-by-side on his TV. When they signed Williams, I told him that Icky was a horrible signing, and that his act would become a circus.
It did, in spades.
If he were released and signed to a veteran minimum 1-year deal, ok, I could live with it, but in all reality, I want no part of that mentally unbalanced freakshow.
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In all fairness, Williams has never been busted for crack. And as far as the pot is concerned, where did all you holier than thou come from? How many wouldn't want to "see" Williams on our team, but would spend good money to see Willie Nelson?
Entertainment is entertainment.
And before everyone goes off on me, I'm not endorsing Williams to join us, just exploring the possibility.
Haha, I sure as hell WOULD NOT pay money to see Willie Nelson as our Tailback. That's for sure.
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agreed i dont want a crack head on this team
While I agree his career is over. I think it is a very stupid comment to call him a crack head.
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"How do you reject Ricky for character/drug issues when our starting RB served prison time for cocaine dealing?"
Well, there are several reasons, but I didn't get time to check my facts so I might be a little off,,
1st, it was something Lewis did before being drafted,.. he wasn't in the NFL when he was supposed to have sold or tried to set up a drug buy. But he was caught and convicted after having been in the NFL a few years. It took them a few years to figure out what he did.
Secondly, he was NEVER accused of using any Drugs to my knowledge (here is where having time to check the facts would be helpful) At least not since being in the NFL. Which basically means he didn't test positive at any time. (again, to the best of my knowledge)
I'm no fan of drugs users or pushers but I think that since he's paid his debt to society (it was only something like 4 months so how serious was the incident to warrant only a 4 month sentence) and was clean prior and since, I think a chance has to be given... He's used up one chance... I don't think he gets another if he blows it again.
With Ricky Williams, the situation is way different... first, he actually used dope... He's tested positive.. But more importantly, he stiffed his teammates a few years back.. almost single handedly tore that team apart in Miami by just up and retiring...
Then failing a test again last season, being suspended for the year are things that Lewis never did..
Now on a scale of 1 to 10 of bad things to do... IMO, using dope is about a 5,, buying cocaine with the intent to distribute is a 10 so that's the one hang up I have on Lewis... I'll only say that he was young and stupid and made a mistake,,,
That to me is the difference!
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Lewis never bought, he just made an arrangement for one person to meet with another, and all prior to his being drafted, if my memory serves me correctly. Based on what is public record, he has never done anything else wrong is his NFL career (except abuse our defenses).
As you stated about Ricky, it is entirely different. Ricky not only violated the rules and actually used the drugs, but he did so repeatedly and habitually. He then opted to decide to retire instead of accept the suspension that he knew was coming due to a failed drug test. This was his first year away from the game. Then, upon coming back (begging to come back so as not to have to repay all of his signing bonus money to the tune of $8M+, he then gets popped on yet another drug test which earns him a one year suspension.
There is quite a significant difference in the two and to even compare them as being equal in severty is absurd.... and no, there are no Brown&Orange glasses on for this.
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While I agree his career is over. I think it is a very stupid comment to call him a crack head.
then what he is an overpayed bum who 1ikes weed?
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then what he is an overpayed bum who 1ikes weed?
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1st, it was something Lewis did before being drafted,.. he wasn't in the NFL when he was supposed to have sold or tried to set up a drug buy.
Lewis, who tried to set up the deal a few months after he was the No. 5 overall pick in the 2000 NFL draft, also will spend two months in a halfway house and perform 500 hours of community service following his prison term.
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8135568
Just wanted to point out that Lewis' problems did happen after he was already in the NFL.
Lewis was charged with "intent to distribute" AKA "drug dealer".
Baltimore Ravens star running back Jamal Lewis was indicted by a federal grand jury in Atlanta on drug conspiracy charges, stemming from allegations that Lewis intentionally possessed cocaine with intent to distribute.
http://atlanta.about.com/cs/sports/a/jamallewis.htm
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I'm no fan of drugs users or pushers but I think that since he's paid his debt to society (it was only something like 4 months so how serious was the incident to warrant only a 4 month sentence)...
In fairness, I'm not aware of Ricky doing any jail time at all for any drug arrests what so ever.
And just generally speaking cocaine = felony while marijuana = misdemeanor from the legal perspective.
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But more importantly, he stiffed his teammates a few years back.. almost single handedly tore that team apart in Miami by just up and retiring...
The first part of this I whole heartedly agree with; quiting on his team is a much more serious "red flag" to me and a legit reason for some GM's to pass on him.
The second part- "single handedly tearing a team apart" can't be done unless the "team" already is falling apart. Sure Ricky mde the situation worse but the Dolphins where already in a death spiral (and still are).
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Then, upon coming back (begging to come back so as not to have to repay all of his signing bonus money to the tune of $8M+, he then gets popped on yet another drug test which earns him a one year suspension.
That failed test wasn't a positive, it was an "unreadable sample". If a player has too much water in their system the test flags them even if no drug is found. This has happened to dozens of players over the past few years.
The real question here is whether or not a 30 year old Ricky Williams is better than Jason Wright...... and even with my orange colored glasses on I'd have to say it's Ricky hands down. I'm not sure how anyone could debate that.
Our offense looks legit on paper with the exception of RB. Lewis is Ok, but there's no way he starts 16 games this year. If anyone wants to put some $$$ on that jsut let me know  , it's not going to happen.
So who's our #2 RB and is Ricky or any FA a better option for us than Wright?
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In all fairness, Williams has never been busted for crack. And as far as the pot is concerned, where did all you holier than thou come from? How many wouldn't want to "see" Williams on our team, but would spend good money to see Willie Nelson?
Entertainment is entertainment.
And before everyone goes off on me, I'm not endorsing Williams to join us, just exploring the possibility.
I would never, ever, pay money to see any country musician.
Also don't really care for the idea of Williams coming here, though being further from Cuba would be a plus for him. As I recall, he don't care for cold weather.
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Back in the 'old days'...DLinemen used to smell the hard liquor on Sony Jurgensen's breath while calling out signals....and that's ok. That stuff makes you wanna go out and shoot up the town...but it's legal. Ricky likes to smoke grass, which does NOT turn you into a stumbling loudmouth that wants to go shoot up the town...but it's illegal...it's upset his life...people are calling him a crack head...
But...that's the society that we live in.
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