DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Deflategate- Wells report finds Pats employees probably deflated balls vs. Colts

SHOCKED is what I am. I thought there might be a few minor hits, but NO WAY did I expect Brady would suspended 4 games and a million dollar fine for the Pats and the loss of two picks. WOW..

I'm shocked, but very pleased.

Guys like those in New England, Atlanta and yes, our very own Mr. Farmer have to learn, this league has rules, and they have to adhere to them.

If they don't like them, then lobby to get them changed but don't ignore them.

If memory serves me correctly, the folks in Atlanta and Farmer haven't been involved in anything like this before. But Belichick has and it's cost him and the team..

You might say it's worth it because in the last 15 years, they got 4 rings and took a couple more shots at it and lost. So I guess if Bob Kraft says, hey, I'll pay out a couple of Million and I'll loose a couple of picks because it's worth it to have 4 rings.

Oh well,,,

Yep, but how do you plan for Garoppolo? Steelers look to get break week 1 but who knows?

j/c:

I am not going to keep posting on this thread, but it is so freaking funny that the guys who got so bent out of shape while defending Gordon are the very same guys just loving how Brady is being punished.

That is very interesting and revealing about your character.

You plan for Garoppolo by thanking God he is not Tom Brady.

I agree but I for one, find this petty crap comical. IMO, punishment doesn't fit but alas, communism rolls on.

On a side note. I watched my 1st LFL game, what an experience! A Chicago Bliss DB actually popped open a beer that was thrown to her on the field by a fan and chugged it down between plays, The announcer said, "Hey NFL,how do you like THESE rules?" LMAO

Sounds like Johnny's kind of league.

So a Cheater cheats on his wife. Ok

A liar a murderer and a cheater walk into a bar.

The bartender says, " why the long face".

The Liar says, " this guy was with me all last Friday night."

The other two say in unison, " Which One!"

and they all laugh! ... I'm not saying it's not cold hearted.

Look below for the proper punishment...

You peeps are soooooooooooooooooo BLIND.

Screw these penalties, the REAL THING they should do is
TAKE BACK THE DAMN CHAMPIONSHIP AND LOMBARDI TROPHY!!!!!!!!

Geeezzzzzzzzz, Am I the only one brilliant enough to define the proper punishment?????????????????????

I am looking forward to watching Garoppolo play. I'd be more than happy if we traded Manziel and a first to get him. I don't think the Patriots would be stupid enough to trade him away though.

I think the Steelers will get owned by Jimmy =)

Gordon's infraction had no impact on the results on the field. Brady's definitely was at least an advantage in his mind, or else he wouldn't have done it/allowed it.

Plus, I went to Ohio State and Brady went to Michigan. Must stomp the skunk weasel while he's down.

I agree with the first sentence and hope for the last. I'd like to see how he does those first four weeks before trading a first and a former first who has time to potentially turn it around.

If I'm Brady, I retire then make one last statement to Roger Goodell and tell him where to put his deflate gate. If this happened here there would be a riot.

Totally agree. Until the NFL makes punishments for cheating retroactive it will always be worthwhile to cheat.

That's why almost every major dynasty in the NFL has admitted to or been caught cheating (Pats, Raiders, 49ers, Steelers, Giants, etc and so on).

With the current rules why WOULDN'T you cheat?

I think coming back and continuing to make lots of money would make more sense for Brady. I think adding "That one was for Deflate Gate" at the end of every post victory press conference for the rest of his career would be a better jab at Goodell.

Is this a message board for people with special needs?

j/c

Sickening. The Pats should get the following:

Brady suspended for a year...minimum. End date of suspension to be determined on a whim and delayed until - at least - AFTER the 2016 draft.

No first round picks as long as Brady is on your roster.

Loss of ALL compensatory picks as long as Belicheat is employed by the Pats.

This "punishment" is total BS. We need to start cheating our butts off effective immediately.

I am NOT kidding.

Farmer is already ahead of the curve.
He has 4 games to sit out.

You just want to see Manziel or McCown get suspended...

Tom Brady should be up for an Academy Award nomination this year: Best Liar!

Top to bottom, the entire organization is corrupt. I hope that legacy stays with them.

I give Goodell 24 months tops...and he's gone. Yippee! Worse NFL commish ever.

It seems so. Nice recap.

Didn't look that bad until you slid in the Saints and Tomlin.

J/C
As I understand the report is based on circumstantial evidence which should be no legitimate reason to punish anyone. What I can't believe is they suspended the 2 equipment guys indefinitely.. That is crazy. If it was true they were doing what they were told by Tom Brady.. Most would..I like to think I'm as honest as they come but who knows what I might have done if I were them. Probably would have been afraid of losing my menial job.

I think the NFL viewed the deflation as a "performance enhancing incident." The balls were deflated because it made the grip better. What do you get for using a performance enhancing drug ?? 4 games. What penalty did Brady get ?? 4 games.

Couple that with Brady's refusal to allow the NFL to check out his cell phone and you have an automatic suspension. I do not think an appeal will get a reversal. When you factor in the Patriots past "cheating" reputation, the fact that Goodell and Kraft are friends ( meaning that Goodell has to be harsh to avoid bias charges.. especially after the penalties levied on Sean Payton and the Saints over bountygate ) and Brady's noncooperation with the investigation, I do not look for Brady or the Patriots to get very far in their appeals.

I don't have the experience with footballs that you do, but hearing your thoughts on the subject solidifies my own in that it's not that big a deal, doesn't make enough difference and surely not cheating, (other than breaking a dumb rule).


Why should each QB have to throw the same ball anyway? Every person is built differently. Larger/smaller hands and such. This 12.5 to 13.5 lbs of air pressure rule is similar to saying everyone must wear 10.5 to 11.5 shoe size.

It makes me think every team should have their footballs at the pressure they like best. That would eliminate what I'm beginning to think is a stupid rule. It's certainly not equal to the use of performance enhancing drugs which is the same punishment Brady got levied.

While saying all that I do understand that a rule is still a rule and breaking a rule means facing the consequences.

Still, I don't see the big advantage it's being treated as. It's not like it's the reason the Colts couldn't score over 7 points. Even someone insisted that it accounted for 2 of NE's TD's the game would still have been an embarrassing blow-out loss for the Colts.

Ddub, not sure how big a deal it is myself, but does it matter? Nope, there is a rule, they apparently broke the rule. End of discussion.

Anyway, Brady is fighting the suspension. So we'll see what happens.

I haven't heard if the Pats are fighting the 1 million dollar fine and the loss of picks yet.

Kraft said in a statement I read that he didn't believe the Pats did anything wrong so I'm not sure why he wouldn't fight!

Brady's 4 game pay check is about $2 million dollars. The Pats got a $1 million fine. So, other than losing Brady for 4 games they just made about $1 million bucks through not having to pay Brady.

It's like they're being forced to start Garopollo for 4 games and being paid $1 million to do it.

The draft picks hurt bad. And Brady loses money.

And, as usual, the Steelers end up on the lucky end of the deal not having to play Brady in the opening game.

Wow, hadn't even given a thought to the money aspect other than the million they need to pay. Cool for them I guess.

I think they (the Steelers) better hope that Garopolo isn't as good as some folks think he is.

It wasn't that long ago when Tebow beat Pittsburgh, did so in overtime with a 80 yard pass, so let's not get too carried away that Tom won't be there. Steelers still will have to fight IMO for a win.

September 2015
Breaking News....
It is revealed that the NE Pats have been caught cheating again, by putting Tom Brady into Jimmy Garoppolo's uniform.

OMG that was funny......

Yeah it was.

Tom Brady on being caught red handed "I didn't even notice I was wearing his jersey and playing" haha.

I didn't think for one minute that you were against the rules or that they should be broken. It was just a relief for me, a non-football guy, so see a football guy say the same thing I did, that the p.s.i. is not that big of a deal/not a big advantage.

Personally, I think the NFL has once again screwed up an investigation and issued a ridiculous punishment. Some say the Pats have a history of cheating. The NFL has a history of screwing up these kinds of decisions.

Such as me lowering the standards on your sins here by allowing you to make things up about my posts in EE without you posting an example.

Happy for you along with all the other probable, most likely, maybe hypocrites here that supported Gordon.

Easy fix... the NFL league office should supply all the game balls to the ref's at proper psi 1 minute prior to kickoff for all games.