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It's going to be okay 40. It's obvious you are a man of the people. What do you think the one person of color you know, your gardner is supposed to say to his employer?! "I hate this job and you grossly underpay me." You live in a dream world my friend. Funny how your Gardner never came up on the old board when we were discussing Hispanic issues. Knowing you he's probably not even Mexican. He's probably from Panama, but you assumed anyone who is brown with a Spanish accent is Mexican.

I have to disagree with you. It's everybody job to keep their neighborhood safe. If I see or hear somebody messing around my neighbors house you can bet I will protect it like it's my own.

What are you disagreeing with? It's not a statement that can be disagreed with. Citizens are not paid to stop law breakers.

Are you serious with this post? Considering you come from manual labor, you can't be serious.

I disagree that it's not our job to lookout for each other in our community. Do we get a paycheck for doing it... no. We do it because it's the right thing to do, otherwise we are no better than a cop who turns a blind eye to a crime.

There's a major difference between "job" and "responsibility".

yep the spelling, paycheck, and pronunciation.

You just like to argue for the sake of arguing, don't you?

No, I think someone not performing their job to protect and serve is actually much worse than someone not performing their civic duty.

One of the best, and thought provoking posts ever, and that is saying a lot considering the quality of Clems posts in the past.

I will in fairness say, in the past I have heard the term "jack booted thugs" used in reference to police

I agree that to have a fully functioning, safe society you need both civic responsibility and a paid force to protect and serve.

I think the paid officer holds an accountability in relation to their job and is also expected to meet their civic responsibility too. I'm thinking of the off duty officer getting involved to help.

I think there are more situations that allow an officer to get fired or suspended than there are for a citizen to be affected in a legal way.

I'm not sure, but I think that's the distinction that's CHS is drawing.

I think you have touched on an issue that seems to have slowly developed into a major problem in society. Not black society, or white society. Just American society. There is no self accountability anymore. People think everything should be done for them, and if its not then its someone elses fault. If there is crime in your neighborhood, it is the polices fault. if your kid sucks at sports, its a coaches fault. If your kid is a failure in school, its the teachers fault.

His statement had nothing to do with performance. It had to do with responsibility to protect your own neighborhood. The cops can't be watching everyone every minute, it is the neighborhoods job to inform the police when a crime has taken place, and give them witness statements, SO that the police can do their job, and make an arrest.

The police would never know someone broke into your house if you don't call them, and they would probably never find out who if your neighbor, who saw the whole thing happen, doesn't give their statement.

What is wrong with this picture?.....A 25 year old police officer gets shot in the face while stopping a man for gun possession. He dies from his injuries. The media gives it about 30 seconds of coverage. Our values and morals in this country are in a total state of decay.

I would write, call or email the media to demand a change.

I think this incident is very much as important as any element in the discussion of police interactions.

It is wrong. It's unfortunate and prayers go out to the family.

I'll applaud you for going through so much effort with the formatting, but you missed the point... Police and civilians are not held to the same standards for reporting or solving crimes. Me not reporting that my flatmate stole some gum at 711 is nowhere near the same as a Cop not reporting an illegal action. There's a difference and it needs to be stated.

It is wrong but it is more a reflection on society than it is about the media. The medias job is to make money for their corporate owners. They do that through viewers, so media is going to cover what they think is going to get viewers to their media source. Its the viewers(society) that I feel ashamed of.

But the motivation is the same.

But that doesn't make a difference? Cops are held to a higher standard because it is their job.

j/c

A different view:

I've watched that show a few times, but I haven't developed a habit yet.

I like the opposing views yet still cordial and humorous.

If you ever move into my hood I got your back bro.

LOL Can anyone call anywhere in Columbiana a "hood"?

No because we all look out for each other

The Chaos is over!
The Army has gone home!
The Police are under investigation!
All is well!
Move along now, nothing to see here.

Til the verdict.

Hey! I said move along!

j/c

Killing in Baltimore - why isn't this http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/05/25/27-...t-month-century in the headlines?

Where are all the protesters about the 27 shootings, and 8 deaths just this weekend alone?

same reason why all the white on white crime isn't being reported.

Wow. I didn't know, and still don't know - the race of anyone involved in the 27 shootings and 8 deaths in Baltimore just this weekend alone. Apparently you do know of the race?

By the way - did you notice there were 27 shootings in Baltimore this weekend? Resulting in 8 deaths?

Due to the simple fact that anyone running around claiming that "black lives matter" is an outright liar and opportunist trying to get rich and/or famous by exploiting the very people they say they care about or stand in solidarity with.

It's baltimore.

If this was chicago, guess what? I'd probabaly say the same thing. As it's the most likely scenario.

All lives matter.

But are you saying black lives don't matter?

Cause according to you, people saying that are lying.

If black lives matter, which they do, then the primary enemy is not the cops, statistically, it's other blacks.

As for black on black and white on white crime.. the majority of homicides occur between people who know each other and they occur for personal reasons..... most blacks are killed by blacks and whites are killed by whites... In the end, people are dying and the focus of the debate remains who to blame and not how to stop it.

I've already acknowledge that on past threads.

I dunno why you're responding to me and not devil.

I'm not the one who said something like that.

LOL! You have to be more subtle in your race baiting to get one over on this guy


They are lying. Where are the tens of thousands of people protesting in the streets over the uptick in violence and murders? According to other reports, most of these recent killings are inter-gang related. But where are the protests? Where are the "Hands up, don't shoot" crowd? Where are the rioters? Where is the President and other city leaders talking about reforming the Bloods, Crips, Sur 13, and all other violent gangs who are much more responsible for the decay and plight of poor urban communities than a skewed justice system run by The Man?

*cricket* *cricket*

The simple fact is, that if Freddie Gray had not died several weeks ago in that incident, but instead was one of these few dozen killed these last few weeks, you wouldn't care. No one would. If Michael Brown (and I know you've stated he was in the wrong) found himself at the business end of the local gang member's gun, he wouldn't be getting his honorary plaque.

But go ahead and keep pushing the lie that cops are going around "gunning down black people in the streets", phrasing it s it appears to be happening in epic proportions and is a matter of standard operating procedures. But know that so long as people like that ignore the fact that more blacks will be killed by other blacks in inter-city related violence in the city of Baltimore this year than there will be blacks who are killed during an encounter with police (of any race) NATIONWIDE... you just kill (pardon he pun) any credibility on the subject of #blacklivesmatter

So yeah, so long as #blacklivesmatter is only applied to white cops and dead black suspects as it has been, anyone who uses it IS a liar and a fraud.

Typically, when one uses the *crickets*, it's after making a point that can't be refuted.


Yours can, as there are rallies and meetings going about the gang violence all the time. I just attended one this past Friday here in cleveland. However, the media doesn't report that.

But I wouldn't expect a cop who cover ups his corrupt ass coworkers to understand that.

I mean damn, my bad for thinking my life matters.

What a loser, right?

HAhahaha! Anyone in this world who thinks their life matters is a fool!

Corporations, Governments and Profits matter, the rest are replaceable assets!

They have sacrificed an entire generation of Americans to build their New World Order where everyone earns equally in the end and all can afford refrigerators! The world is now their customer base instead of just America and the West!

Suck it up, no one matters.
But to God.